having trouble germinating/sprouting plants

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03-25-2009, 03:09 AM
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Starting your seeds

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Okay to all you paper towel heads and water nuts. :lol: I have been saying this for a long time now but found a site which states it nicely. Read this and don't lose any more of your precious seeds needlessly.

For an optimal germination result the seeds should be planted DIRECTLY into the substrate. We clearly advise against using pre-germination methods or soaking. Please do not place the seeds into a glass of water or in moist paper tissues. Fresh and healthy seeds prefer a nurturing and airy substrate to germinate in – just as mother nature has meant it to be. Cannabis is a plant species originating from semi-arid and temperate biotopes and the vast majority of modern cannabis hybrids contain a substantial percentage of these genetics. Cannabis seeds are not adapted to swampy wetlands, but they are suited for germinating in well drained soil/substrate. In nature they rot if they fall into a puddle of water...and there are no paper tissues lying around either. Taking into account these botanical facts, it is quite logical that by creating germination conditions that are similar to those of the natural habitat one can expect the best results.
What happens if one uses pre-germination methods?
1. Soaking seeds in water/wet paper towels is a method which can be used for old seeds (3+ years) that are drying up and losing germination power; and for pure land race equatorial strains such as from Africa. Both factors do not apply to our seeds. Fresh seeds have a healthy embryo whose cells are filled with water. But excess water causes the cells to bloat, depletes oxygen and leads to the tissue rotting away before the seed embryo can germinate. Old seeds have lost water in the cell tissue, the embryo starts to shrivel, which is why germination rates drop the older the seeds are. Therefore, old seeds (ie. 3+ years) can soak up more water before adverse conditions cause them to rot. This is one of the main reasons why various seed stock reacts differently to pre-germination methods. Especially novice growers make a lot of mistakes with pre-germination methods such as soaking seeds in water for up to 1-2 days. Even if one chooses to pre-germ seeds it has to be done correctly.
It is in a growers best interest to choose a germination method with the lowest risk of complications. Because we want customers to have the highest success rate possible we recommend the most convenient and safest method. This does not mean it is the only option. We simply believe it carries the lowest risk. In fact, planting seeds directly in the substrate is also the most plant friendly method for any type of seed stock. The reasons are explained below in paragraph 2 & 3.
2. Placing healthy & fresh seeds in water/wet tissue can lead to the development of fungi or bacteria on the seed hull. Lack of oxygen and contaminating substances in the water/wet tissue promote fungal growth which can be transported to the substrate later on. Often the seed simply rots away if left for too long in a glass of water, or wrapped up in wet tissue.
3. Once the seed sprouts in a glass of water or paper tissue it already has the taproot growing out of the cracked seed hull. While transplanting the germinated seed it is very difficult, indeed impossible, to prevent damage to the delicate taproot. Many sprouted seedlings handled in this way show retarded development, or even simply fail to appear out of the substrate after transplantation. Handling seedlings this way can impair the health & vigour of the plant for the duration of it’s life cycle - especially if other disturbing factors occur during the early stages of growth.
Professional horticulturists rarely use pre-germination methods to actually grow out the seedlings because of the shock suffered from transplanting them. For example, we use the paper tissue method only as a quick test for germination rates of aged seed stock from our genetic repository. This allows us to see beforehand how many seeds we have to put in soil to get the amount of plants we require for breeding projects.
Germinating cannabis seeds is not difficult. All you need is some basic information on what is important and everything should work out fine.




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odinfolk

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Yup, wait until they sprout, man. And make sure that you keep your seedlings in a warm environment. If using soil, make sure the soil is damp, consistently--but not over watered! And tap water works just fine, man. Just make sure to Ph balance it every feed between 6.2 and 6.5. Be consistent! Also, b1 added to water for seedlings/germinating is a good root stimulant!
 

TooSides

Member
I had good results with the paper towel method in a dark spot for 3-4 days placed under light after sprout.
 

marmarb

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Thanks everyone help isgreatly appreciated I just started another seed tonight so hopefully I see some action by Sunday is it just me are the diesel rider seeds are smaller than normal seeds ? As for watering didn't let water drip thru bottom just enough to mositen the soil around seed will b using spray bottle till isee green so that I won't over water
 

Geozander

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I had good results with the paper towel method in a dark spot for 3-4 days placed under light after sprout.
read over the thread. There is alot of good stuff about why not to use paper towels. 3-4 days? Aint that patient. I get quicker better results using jiffys. I used to swear by paper towels in my ignorance. Until one day i was educated, and saw the light. Still use paper towels in my grows, to mop up any spillages.
 

CrackerJax

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A grow takes a long time. A few days difference to properly germ is not a big deal.

Don't make it more complicated than it has to be. :wink:
 

marmarb

Well-Known Member
So I woke up this morning and check plants guess what I saw a sprout 1 of my diesel riders has sprouted id just about written them off I will begin a grow journal on Sunday as I want to give the others a little more time to come up all the help is appreciated. I took the seedling and placed on top my fridge towards the light now that I think about it should have placed in vegbox just thought 6 42 watt cfls would b too much temps in the low 80's
 

CrackerJax

New Member
Most ppl try to drive the plant to the persons timetable. It's much better to let the plant do the timetable. You'll get better results in the end. Great to hear.... :peace:
 

marmarb

Well-Known Member
Thanks geo todays update I moved 1st dr sprout off fridge into veg box took 4 of the 42 watt cfls out today when I got home I have 3 of my femed seeds break soil yay moved directly into veg box so that's 1 dr 1 road runner and on blue hash for got what the other one is pretty sure its g13 blue venom so 4 sure hits not also seems as another seed sprout upsidedown showin about 3/4 taproot was in darkso flipped it to correct it placed back in the dark so hopefully it didn't hurt ne thing
 
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