Having problem germinating seeds

Avinash

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Actually, hydro doesn't mean hybrid.
A hybrid is a variety that originates from two distinctly different varieties cross pollinated.

Hydro is short for hydroponics, which is the type of growing where the media is inert, so provides no nutrients itself, and the plant relies on the water to carry the nutrient solution. Methods like deep water culture, rockwool cubes (with drippers or hand watered), flood and drain (a.k.a. ebb and flow), nutrient film technique, Kratky method, and even growing in coco coir is considered hydro if it's pure, or used only with other inert ingredients like perlite or clay balls.
In some parts of the world though many people wrongly use the word 'hydro' as an adjective for any potent weed. This is bad practice as it devalues the much higher quality (in my opinion) organically grown weed like what you're growing.
It's actually an insult when somebody calls totally organic sun grown cannabis "hydro" just because it looks and smells good or is very strong.
Yeah I know about hydrophonics but in our country or state we call hybrids as hydro
 

Avinash

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Guys how much temperature needed for these plants to sunburn when I keep outside should it be below 28℃ for good condition
 

Mitchician

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Yes ideally you want them to be around there or a bit lower while they're young but as they harden off they can tolerate much higher temperatures.
I hope they have greened up by now? Did they surface in the dark? Just wondering why so yellow..
 
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Avinash

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Yes ideally you want them to be around there or a bit lower while they're young but as they harden off they can tolerate much higher temperatures.
I hope they have greened up by now? Did they surface in the dark? Just wondering why so yellow..
Yeah I switched off the LED for night in morning when I saw they sprouted but they are very tiny not like normal sativa or indica seeds u know they are pretty big in size when they sprout. It's yellow bcz of yellow LED lights
 
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Avinash

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...actually Avinash, why don't you just start a journal on some real Indian Ganja? No offence but that will be much more interesting for us than watching a couple of autos that anyone can order..
My small Indian Ganja Grow which I planted the seeds very late at the end of July the bitch has hit preflowering stretch since 7 days No Nutes no chemical fertilizers Just rain water watering and earthworm and liquid seaweed organic fertilizers till now. She is stretching like a Bitch
 

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Avinash

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The right one is both sex I think she started showing preflowers on every collas 3 days back Lets see. I had 3 plants growing in the medium one was male so i cut it till bottom and the roots of that plant will decompose slowly and become food for worms and they excrete compost at the right time in mid flowering to produce bigger yields and also reducing the use of fertilizers while flowering
 

Mitchician

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They are quite small, how many watts is your LED, and how far above them is it?

Your soil may be too compact also, making it hard for the roots to penetrate it and grow as fast as possible. Next time you should use something to make it lighter, like perlite.

I'm wondering if the one on the right is starting to get a iron deficiency too, which is probably just getting locked out by high pH or too much of something else. Does that newest growth look white to you?

Most people on here call plants that show both sex "hermies" (hermaphrodites) and kill them as soon as they are identified.
Is that not what you do where you're from? If you wanted seed, why didn't you let the male pollinate the female, then kill him?
If you let the hermie plant pollinate the female, the seeds will all be hermie too, that's generally considered a very bad thing.
You should have left the male so they could have made some nice fresh seed for you... to send to me. lol jk ;)
 

Budzbuddha

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You made this WAY TOO COMPLICATED.... Autos are the simplest seeds to grow.

Cow / goat shit / earthworms ? ALL YOU NEED IS A GOOD BASIC BAGGED MIX ....nothing else.
I have grown more autos than I can count .... less is more with these , it’s not rocket science.

1. MEDIUM : Good bagged soil ( FFOF / HF / Kellogg’s / Black Magic / Sunshine / EB Stone and a bunch of others )
Or similar ” vegetable organic mixes “ . Most are PH buffered and can work right from tap water !
Although try to stabilize your water ph to 6.3 to 6.5 ( soil ) no more ... no less.
Calmag MAY be needed sometimes , especially with led grows.

2. NO stupid RO / Rain / Well or distilled ...... WHY ? ..... because the plants entire lifespan will end around
90 days or so and adding unnecessary additives and “ special “ water mucks up the simple grow .

3. With most good “ ammended “ soils like fox farm and others .... The actual soil does the feeding *SHOCKING !
After a number of weeks , plants become acclimated to its host soil and thrive. It’s short veg cycle isn’t long enough
to benefit from excess feeding ..... After about 35 days in it begins to “ sex “ ( pistil ) then it will begin to transition.

If you goofed on something EARLY ON it will show ....... Soil “ overloaded “ with a bunch of shit / overwatering / compaction / etc.
That is why autos look small and as “ a stress response “ begin to flower without much initial growth. Yes , sometimes you get unstable seeds at times but mostly thy require MINIMAL effort. They love light .... lots of light. Because of the “ third wheel “ addition of RUDERALIS to the host strains , it can press different traits at times. But breeders are getting better at refining the strain lines.

ANY unnecessary stress can fuck a grow . The MOST IMPORTANT STAGE of an auto is from germ to transition . You literally have
about 5 weeks initially to get the auto to root out as much as it can BEFORE it’s internal clock says time to flower. You cannot stop it.
A loose , airy medium also fast rooting and structure.

Light Schedule: MINIMUM 18/6 or better. By providing MORE light and long cycle energizes the root making . That simple.

Lastly ..... To “ feed “ all you do is TOP DRESS with more of your bagged soil and water in ..... NO PPM CHECKING , NO BOTTLES ,
NO FLUSHING or other nonsense since plant pulls only what it wants from host medium and NOT from what you trying t dump on it.


Seriously that simple

I do nothing but No Till soil grows ( FFOF / EB Stone and water ) that’s it. Bagged soil only with top dress of same soil .
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Avinash

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They are quite small, how many watts is your LED, and how far above them is it?

Your soil may be too compact also, making it hard for the roots to penetrate it and grow as fast as possible. Next time you should use something to make it lighter, like perlite.

I'm wondering if the one on the right is starting to get a iron deficiency too, which is probably just getting locked out by high pH or too much of something else. Does that newest growth look white to you?

Most people on here call plants that show both sex "hermies" (hermaphrodites) and kill them as soon as they are identified.
Is that not what you do where you're from? If you wanted seed, why didn't you let the male pollinate the female, then kill him?
If you let the hermie plant pollinate the female, the seeds will all be hermie too, that's generally considered a very bad thing.
You should have left the male so they could have made some nice fresh seed for you... to send to me. lol jk ;)
If you want original regular seeds I have millions of them what to do for iron deficiency no white colors and how will you detect iron defeciency and I use 200 watts of LED multicolor lights in night on day it will have full sun light in the open balcony till evening I think more than 7 to 8 hours of direct sunlight
 
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Avinash

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You made this WAY TOO COMPLICATED.... Autos are the simplest seeds to grow.

Cow / goat shit / earthworms ? ALL YOU NEED IS A GOOD BASIC BAGGED MIX ....nothing else.
I have grown more autos than I can count .... less is more with these , it’s not rocket science.

1. MEDIUM : Good bagged soil ( FFOF / HF / Kellogg’s / Black Magic / Sunshine / EB Stone and a bunch of others )
Or similar ” vegetable organic mixes “ . Most are PH buffered and can work right from tap water !
Although try to stabilize your water ph to 6.3 to 6.5 ( soil ) no more ... no less.
Calmag MAY be needed sometimes , especially with led grows.

2. NO stupid RO / Rain / Well or distilled ...... WHY ? ..... because the plants entire lifespan will end around
90 days or so and adding unnecessary additives and “ special “ water mucks up the simple grow .

3. With most good “ ammended “ soils like fox farm and others .... The actual soil does the feeding *SHOCKING !
After a number of weeks , plants become acclimated to its host soil and thrive. It’s short veg cycle isn’t long enough
to benefit from excess feeding ..... After about 35 days in it begins to “ sex “ ( pistil ) then it will begin to transition.

If you goofed on something EARLY ON it will show ....... Soil “ overloaded “ with a bunch of shit / overwatering / compaction / etc.
That is why autos look small and as “ a stress response “ begin to flower without much initial growth. Yes , sometimes you get unstable seeds at times but mostly thy require MINIMAL effort. They love light .... lots of light. Because of the “ third wheel “ addition of RUDERALIS to the host strains , it can press different traits at times. But breeders are getting better at refining the strain lines.

ANY unnecessary stress can fuck a grow . The MOST IMPORTANT STAGE of an auto is from germ to transition . You literally have
about 5 weeks initially to get the auto to root out as much as it can BEFORE it’s internal clock says time to flower. You cannot stop it.
A loose , airy medium also fast rooting and structure.

Light Schedule: MINIMUM 18/6 or better. By providing MORE light and long cycle energizes the root making . That simple.

Lastly ..... To “ feed “ all you do is TOP DRESS with more of your bagged soil and water in ..... NO PPM CHECKING , NO BOTTLES ,
NO FLUSHING or other nonsense since plant pulls only what it wants from host medium and NOT from what you trying t dump on it.


Seriously that simple

I do nothing but No Till soil grows ( FFOF / EB Stone and water ) that’s it. Bagged soil only with top dress of same soil .
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Thanx for the information but the problem is all those soil which you told is not available here and the nutes also not here. I have to make things work with what I have. I use white vinegar to pH down is that bad I read it in Royal Queen Seeds journal
 
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Avinash

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You made this WAY TOO COMPLICATED.... Autos are the simplest seeds to grow.

Cow / goat shit / earthworms ? ALL YOU NEED IS A GOOD BASIC BAGGED MIX ....nothing else.
I have grown more autos than I can count .... less is more with these , it’s not rocket science.

1. MEDIUM : Good bagged soil ( FFOF / HF / Kellogg’s / Black Magic / Sunshine / EB Stone and a bunch of others )
Or similar ” vegetable organic mixes “ . Most are PH buffered and can work right from tap water !
Although try to stabilize your water ph to 6.3 to 6.5 ( soil ) no more ... no less.
Calmag MAY be needed sometimes , especially with led grows.

2. NO stupid RO / Rain / Well or distilled ...... WHY ? ..... because the plants entire lifespan will end around
90 days or so and adding unnecessary additives and “ special “ water mucks up the simple grow .

3. With most good “ ammended “ soils like fox farm and others .... The actual soil does the feeding *SHOCKING !
After a number of weeks , plants become acclimated to its host soil and thrive. It’s short veg cycle isn’t long enough
to benefit from excess feeding ..... After about 35 days in it begins to “ sex “ ( pistil ) then it will begin to transition.

If you goofed on something EARLY ON it will show ....... Soil “ overloaded “ with a bunch of shit / overwatering / compaction / etc.
That is why autos look small and as “ a stress response “ begin to flower without much initial growth. Yes , sometimes you get unstable seeds at times but mostly thy require MINIMAL effort. They love light .... lots of light. Because of the “ third wheel “ addition of RUDERALIS to the host strains , it can press different traits at times. But breeders are getting better at refining the strain lines.

ANY unnecessary stress can fuck a grow . The MOST IMPORTANT STAGE of an auto is from germ to transition . You literally have
about 5 weeks initially to get the auto to root out as much as it can BEFORE it’s internal clock says time to flower. You cannot stop it.
A loose , airy medium also fast rooting and structure.

Light Schedule: MINIMUM 18/6 or better. By providing MORE light and long cycle energizes the root making . That simple.

Lastly ..... To “ feed “ all you do is TOP DRESS with more of your bagged soil and water in ..... NO PPM CHECKING , NO BOTTLES ,
NO FLUSHING or other nonsense since plant pulls only what it wants from host medium and NOT from what you trying t dump on it.


Seriously that simple

I do nothing but No Till soil grows ( FFOF / EB Stone and water ) that’s it. Bagged soil only with top dress of same soil .
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Can u tell me where I can get good soil shipped to India no too costly and that's some nice shit man wish I could taste them
 
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Avinash

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Have you not read any grow journals or articles or forums ? Start by doing a bit of research.
I have read many but resources are limited here besides we grow good local regular stuff in normal red organic compost mix soil which I posted in this thread but this is my first hybrid grow which is more complicated I think
 

Avinash

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Thanx for the information but the problem is all those soil which you told is not be available here and the nutes also not here. I have to make things work with what I have. I use white vinegar to pH down is it too bad
Can we Use rose bloom and bloom fertilizer used in fruit plants which is specially made for them not to fall off
 
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Mitchician

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Don't worry about getting soil shipped to India. Just continue using what you have local to you, and try to teach yourself how to use it better.

You're doing fine, don't think what you're doing isn't good enough, that will take away your enjoyment by raising your expectations too high.

One thing which will help you greatly is a pH testing kit. You can use it to check the pH of the water you're feeding, and the water coming out the bottom of the pots. This will give you a better idea of what's going on in the roots.

Try to find a local source of kelp extract (seaweed fertiliser), and some fish emulsion for more Nitrogen, your bigger plants look a bit hungry.

It sounds like your plants are getting enough sunlight, but is your LED really using 200w, and do you have it hanging at the recommended height above the plants?

Learn about all the deficiencies at growweedeasy.com

Thanks for the seeds offer, maybe I'll take some one day..
 

Avinash

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Don't worry about getting soil shipped to India. Just continue using what you have local to you, and try to teach yourself how to use it better.

You're doing fine, don't think what you're doing isn't good enough, that will take away your enjoyment by raising your expectations too high.

One thing which will help you greatly is a pH testing kit. You can use it to check the pH of the water you're feeding, and the water coming out the bottom of the pots. This will give you a better idea of what's going on in the roots.

Try to find a local source of kelp extract (seaweed fertiliser), and some fish emulsion for more Nitrogen, your bigger plants look a bit hungry.

It sounds like your plants are getting enough sunlight, but is your LED really using 200w, and do you have it hanging at the recommended height above the plants?

Learn about all the deficiencies at growweedeasy.com

Thanks for the seeds offer, maybe I'll take some one day..
Yeah I think they have nutrient lockout so I flushed yesterday what is your recommended height for LED lights and i have been using Liquid seaweed fertilizer as foiler and drenching and what is your recommended dose to use them
 

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Avinash

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They are quite small, how many watts is your LED, and how far above them is it?

Your soil may be too compact also, making it hard for the roots to penetrate it and grow as fast as possible. Next time you should use something to make it lighter, like perlite.

I'm wondering if the one on the right is starting to get a iron deficiency too, which is probably just getting locked out by high pH or too much of something else. Does that newest growth look white to you?

Most people on here call plants that show both sex "hermies" (hermaphrodites) and kill them as soon as they are identified.
Is that not what you do where you're from? If you wanted seed, why didn't you let the male pollinate the female, then kill him?
If you let the hermie plant pollinate the female, the seeds will all be hermie too, that's generally considered a very bad thing.
You should have left the male so they could have made some nice fresh seed for you... to send to me. lol jk ;)
Hermies you call them good. The fact is you will get seedless female flowers rarely here and point is pure seedless female flowers will have some seeds some 5 to 10 seeds minimum I think. Here local breeders will grow both female and male plants till maturity and sell them they will not kill any males bcz they have no knowledge of pollination they guerilla grow them in forests in which they will visit the spot just 5 to 6 times till harvest they dont do any training but they will use some organic fertilizers . Here you will get seeds in every female plants but not too much seeds and here local Aghoris and Naga Sadhus who are around 80 to 90 yrs tell we should never smoke pure seedless all year we should smoke some male and hermies from time to time or it will affect our reproduction I think and another point is here in India Male Plants are nearly as much potent as female except we remove seeds and sticks to smoke them and they will produce same amounts of trichomes in the end I have grown one male plant till harvest and the trichomes was unbelievable and one major negative point is male plants have too much wastage in colas from one cola you will have some 2 to 3 joints remaining all are waste unsmokable even we can smoke seed wrappers bcz of trichomes prssent. Have you ever smoked male or hermies??? I will upload some good male plants which we smoke here and now the cannabis season is starting and every peddler will have plenty of fine organic pure female and male Indian ganja I will upload when I get hands on some you will be surprised by the potency they have and another thing our female buds are different than your hybrid buds . Here one female plant will produce buds from bottom to top fully covered and In every branches . Main stem will have gap of some 5inch in bottom after that there will full buds
 
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