Having issues with my plants!! Lots of pics inside,PLEASE HELP

So for background I am 2 weeks into flowering and I have noticed spots on my leaves forming. Also lower leaves are yellowing with brown dry tips and brown vein area. I recently got a ph/tds meter by HM. I checked my runoff and it was ph 5.4 and ppm of 1368. So yesterday was the water only day so I gave them ph 6.5 water with 100ppm of cal mag in it. And I gave them one gallon which is almost twice what they normally get to help flush out the soil. I got a runoff of 5.6 with a ppm of 1005. Now today they look perkier but the necrosis on the leaves is bad and I will surely lose some of them.
I am using all Botanicare line products PBP Grow soil and bloom,liquid karma,sweet berry,cal mag. I use distilled water and only recently started using cal mag,two waterings ago it got its first bloom feeding of 1ml grow 3 ml of bloom 2 ml liquid karma and 10 ml of sweet berry unknown ph as I didn't have my meter yet,however I discovered distilled water is 5.5 so it was prolly horribly acidic. So onto the pics,let me know what you guys think.

unknown ph? fix that, flush with 6.5, watch babies rebound.

Your PH is one full point too low for soil my friend. 6.5-7 would be a nice area to be..

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Two things I see:
1) the lesions in pics 3 and 4 are injuries, either splash burn or from something hot.
2) Your runoff ppm are still high. Feed with a strength of 500 to 600 ppm ... in soil, this'll do well. Water until copious runoff, then let dry fairly well between waterings. i also see some sign of overwatering, but am not sure.
As for the pH ... on your next repotting, I suggest you admix some powdered dolomite lime. Never a worry about cal, mag or pH. cn

cannabineer said:

Two things I see:
1) the lesions in pics 3 and 4 are injuries, either splash burn or from something hot.
2) Your runoff ppm are still high. Feed with a strength of 500 to 600 ppm ... in soil, this'll do well. Water until copious runoff, then let dry fairly well between waterings. i also see some sign of overwatering, but am not sure.
As for the pH ... on your next repotting, I suggest you admix some powdered dolomite lime. Never a worry about cal, mag or pH. cn

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So should I fertilize as planned next watering? And I want to use my liquid karma with the bloom do I just start with say 10ml per gal of bloom and check ppm before I add karma?

PH problems will make your new growth come out lime green and twisted too, cannabineer was right in suggesting the lime for repot. The lime will help buffer the soil near neutral.


Edit, adding more nutrients can make your PH drop even more, correct the runnoff ph first fertilize later. You probably have plenty of fertilizer that will be unlocked when the PH is corrected anyway.

I would flush with 6.5 water until the runoff is right around the same 6.5 6.6 and ppm is about 600 at most and no don't feed them.. Flush flush flush.. And let dry

keep it real. said:

I would flush with 6.5 water until the runoff is right around the same 6.5 6.6 and ppm is about 600 at most and no don't feed them.. Flush flush flush.. And let dry

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I used my new soil ph meter and it says the soil is between 6.3-6.5 on all plants soil. Should I still use only ph adjusted water next watering because of the high soil runoff ppm?

MugsySiegel said:

I used my new soil ph meter and it says the soil is between 6.3-6.5 on all plants soil. Should I still use only ph adjusted water next watering because of the high soil runoff ppm?

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If your water has low ionic strength (like distilled or RO), its pH won't mean much. I'd not fret the water's pH unless it has the nutes in it. cn

listen to that bear........................imo

Thanks guys,also I'm growing in FFOF which I hear has a 6.3 ph to start. So Canibeer and scrogdolyte should I feed as planned next water or plain water? I'm just afraid 2 weeks into flowering they need some P an K in their diet. An yes I do use distilled water.

MugsySiegel said:

Thanks guys,also I'm growing in FFOF which I hear has a 6.3 ph to start. So Canibeer and scrogdolyte should I feed as planned next water or plain water? I'm just afraid 2 weeks into flowering they need some P an K in their diet. An yes I do use distilled water.

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My experience is with Happy Frog, which was quite nutritious on its own for about six weeks. It definitely benefited from some dolomite lime, however. As Ocean Forest is hotter than Happy Frog, I'm a bit amazed that your plant hasn't curled up from overfert. It must love you very much.
That said, I'd stick with "transition" nutes for now, at a mild level. My read is that the plant is a bit hungry for N.

<edit> wait wait. Just reviewed the whole-plant pic. it has enough N. So mild bloom/transition ferts would be my call. It's always easier to feed an appetite than correct an oversupply. cn

cannabineer said:

My experience is with Happy Frog, which was quite nutritious on its own for about six weeks. It definitely benefited from some dolomite lime, however. As Ocean Forest is hotter than Happy Frog, I'm a bit amazed that your plant hasn't curled up from overfert. It must love you very much.
That said, I'd stick with "transition" nutes for now, at a mild level. My read is that the plant is a bit hungry for N.

<edit> wait wait. Just reviewed the whole-plant pic. it has enough N. So mild bloom/transition ferts would be my call. It's always easier to feed an appetite than correct an oversupply. cn

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Thank you sooo much brother!!! I am gonna be growing in Happy Frog next time as this FFOF is so touchy,I had better luck in the past in MG soil lol. So I suppose Ill start a 300ppm bloom feed regimen and up it in the last 4 weeks to about 600ppm.

I just lost a longish message to the RIU Phantom. Dang.

Bottom line is that I had a complaint with Happy Frog. Toward the end of my grow, it lost its wetting ability. Nutrient or water would bead up on it and penetrate only very slowly. it turned a simple watering into a one-hour ordeal, as the plants were big and drinking a gallon a day. Remarkably, a drop of dish soap in each feed did little to help. The soil also shrank and channeled, making most of the nute/water charge run right through unless I trickled the feed in. Danged peat-based soils.

But otherwise i liked it ... the texture and smell were very nice. And the plants did thrive, which has to be the main thing. cn