Hash Oil 101. Quick EZ guide with photos
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i ran a small experiment to show that no heat source is needed to boil out the butane. (provided the region of the world you live in) I ran approx. 2 fl. oz. of butane into one of my pyrex dishes and left it in my backyard for about 20 minutes and all of the butane was gone in that time period. and the temp outside is in low 40s to high 30s.
Hobbes
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"Colibri, use propane as well as Iso and n-butane" there's nothing on the Colobri bottle
Butane and your health
Some brands of butane add a smell to their butane. This smell is usually added to the butane so that humans can detect leaks, you will find it in large amounts in cheap butane, or camping butane. It can also potentially be in Clean butane such as Colibri but i have never seen it. A prime example of smelly butane is Ronson brand
These chemicals are usually Mercaptans or Sulfur Dioxide (Rotten Egg Smell), using cheap butane with high levels of these is harmful, Do not use cheap butane or camping butane.
It is not known what the effects of residues in butane honey oil are; its not even known for sure what if any residues are left over in butane honey oil after the butane is purged.
Only a GC/MS (Gas Chromatography/Mass Spectrometer) can give us the info on whats exactly is in our BHO. The search is on to find somewhere to get a sample tested.
Until Then, be aware of the potential health risks and judge for yourself if its worth it.
Not all butane is created equally; there are 2 different types of butane that make up the most common brands of butane. Isobutane and N-Butane.
Most cheap brands use Isobutane (2-METHYL PROPANE) and is more toxic and hazardous than N-Butane. For making Honey oil N-Butane is what we want, it extracts better and leaves very little to no residues in the oil.
Other brands use a mix of the different types, and some, like Colibri, use propane as well as Iso and n-butane
Boiling Points
ISOBUTANE: -11.7 C
N-BUTANE: -0.5 C
No source of pure N-Butane has been found available in stores, only through Gas Supply Companies. The best brand of butane I have used is Colibri Butane. I highly recommend Colibri, and you should be able to find it at most Fine Cigar and Tobacco Shoppes. Below is a list of other brands that are good for making Honey oil with. If you cannot find Colibri try to find one of the butane brands listed. And by all means avoid Ronson, Bernz-o-matic or other butane not listed below, they add smell to their butane and this smell is left behind making the oil taste very bad.
Other Brands that are good to use: COLIBRI, NEWPORT, CORA, CTC, COLTON, DUNHILL, DAVIDOFF, FACKELMAN, WIN, NIBO, SAROME, CALOR GAS MATCH, UNILIGHT, K2, SUPERGAS, VENTTI, VECTOR, King butane, Lucienne and Blaster. However this in no way is a complete list.
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http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=31950
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Hobbes
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The hot tub of water is just to speed the boiling of the butane and to raise the temperature to be sure there is no butane caught in the oil. I boil off butane on my back deck in -20C weather with a tub of hot water in just a few minutes. If you're somewhere warm just let it sit and the butane will boil off.
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The hot tub of water is just to speed the boiling of the butane and to raise the temperature to be sure there is no butane caught in the oil. I boil off butane on my back deck in -20C weather with a tub of hot water in just a few minutes. If you're somewhere warm just let it sit and the butane will boil off.
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gwerns nugs
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just what i wanted.....more and more people involved 
I never claim to have the best method.....NO ONE has done this step by step...i had to ask around...which most people didnt give out any info....this is just awesome
I never claim to have the best method.....NO ONE has done this step by step...i had to ask around...which most people didnt give out any info....this is just awesome
gwerns nugs
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lol Hobbs...wat a hater
Hobbes
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Sorry for intruding on your thread gwerns.
I'm not sure if the pictures and instructions are yours or if you copied them, I assumed you were looking for a discussion on BHOE. Normally I'd just leave with my apology, but ....
There are two critical errors in the extraction process shown that will cause death and/or a long visit to the intensive care unit before going to prison; and a third error that will just attack your organs over time. I think this is information that everyone reading the thread should know, including yourself.
1. Death and/or ICU
Never, ever, for any reason, extract indoors. Butane is heavier than air and will sink, even with an open window and a fan you WILL get butane pools. Electrical outlets, appliances, the fridge might turn on, the heating system. Outdoors only, no garage, no barn, no doghouse. Remember the guys who blew the doors off their garage a couple months back?
http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/Edmonton+police+investigate+southwest+garage+explosion/2429206/story.html
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2. Death. If you stop at the ICU for a bit you'll probably just wish for death.
a: Never, ever, for any reason, boil off butane indoors.
b: Never, ever, for any reason, boil off butane with a heat source (the burner) that can reach butanes flash point (788F) or has has a flame.
Most burners won't reach 788 but I've seen red hot sparks when moving pans around the burner which would ignite butane gas. Not worth it. Even if you're using a double boiler, the butane as a gas is going to sink in air because it's heavier. Below the double boiler is the burner or flame. Use a tub of hot water - outdoors.
"Keep on a low heat and turn on your fan now to keep the area well ventillated!" - very dangerous advice.
Is that is a flame stove?
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3. Organ damage.
Butane leaches chemicals out of PVC over time. PVC was not designed for BHOE. PVC contains a host of dangerous chemicals as well as lead, cadmium and other heavy metals - which will stay in your body and build up over time.
Heavy Metal Toxicity:http://www.diagnose-me.com/cond/C15891.html
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"[FONT=Arial,verdana]Does PVC pipe contain hazardous chemicals?[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,verdana]The concerns about hazardous chemicals in PVC centre on the use of heavy metal stabilisers (typically Cadmium and Lead) and plasticisers in flexible PVC products (such as phthalates). There are many reports that question the level of concern with respect to these chemicals in PVC."[/FONT]
"[FONT=Arial,verdana]Should I be concerned about VCM?[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,verdana]Consumers are not at risk from exposure to VCM. VCM is only present in the polymer raw material stage.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,verdana]VCM is known to cause a rare form of liver cancer after prolonged high level exposure. The only known deaths as a consequence of contact with VCM have occurred to people involved in the manufacture of PVC. [/FONT]"
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You are using a non polar super critical solvent on these pipes. They will leach those chemicals and heavy metals into your honey oil, a little at a time, so you'd never notice until you've reached toxic build up.
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gwerns you made beautiful oil but eventually you're going to get blow'd up real good if you don't change your process from what's shown in the pictures.
Best of luck, BHOE kicks making cannabutter's ass, so many uses for the resin. I've made corn syrup candies that are unreal, highly recommend it. When I want brownies from my Volcano dregs I do a BHOE and have amazing tasty brownies. A great process.
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https://www.rollitup.org/cooking-cannabis/300312-bhoe-comparrison-honey-bee-vs.html
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Sorry for intruding on your thread gwerns.
I'm not sure if the pictures and instructions are yours or if you copied them, I assumed you were looking for a discussion on BHOE. Normally I'd just leave with my apology, but ....
There are two critical errors in the extraction process shown that will cause death and/or a long visit to the intensive care unit before going to prison; and a third error that will just attack your organs over time. I think this is information that everyone reading the thread should know, including yourself.
1. Death and/or ICU
Never, ever, for any reason, extract indoors. Butane is heavier than air and will sink, even with an open window and a fan you WILL get butane pools. Electrical outlets, appliances, the fridge might turn on, the heating system. Outdoors only, no garage, no barn, no doghouse. Remember the guys who blew the doors off their garage a couple months back?
http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/Edmonton+police+investigate+southwest+garage+explosion/2429206/story.html
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2. Death. If you stop at the ICU for a bit you'll probably just wish for death.
a: Never, ever, for any reason, boil off butane indoors.
b: Never, ever, for any reason, boil off butane with a heat source (the burner) that can reach butanes flash point (788F) or has has a flame.
Most burners won't reach 788 but I've seen red hot sparks when moving pans around the burner which would ignite butane gas. Not worth it. Even if you're using a double boiler, the butane as a gas is going to sink in air because it's heavier. Below the double boiler is the burner or flame. Use a tub of hot water - outdoors.
"Keep on a low heat and turn on your fan now to keep the area well ventillated!" - very dangerous advice.
Is that is a flame stove?
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3. Organ damage.
Butane leaches chemicals out of PVC over time. PVC was not designed for BHOE. PVC contains a host of dangerous chemicals as well as lead, cadmium and other heavy metals - which will stay in your body and build up over time.
Heavy Metal Toxicity:http://www.diagnose-me.com/cond/C15891.html
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"[FONT=Arial,verdana]Does PVC pipe contain hazardous chemicals?[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,verdana]The concerns about hazardous chemicals in PVC centre on the use of heavy metal stabilisers (typically Cadmium and Lead) and plasticisers in flexible PVC products (such as phthalates). There are many reports that question the level of concern with respect to these chemicals in PVC."[/FONT]
"[FONT=Arial,verdana]Should I be concerned about VCM?[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,verdana]Consumers are not at risk from exposure to VCM. VCM is only present in the polymer raw material stage.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,verdana]VCM is known to cause a rare form of liver cancer after prolonged high level exposure. The only known deaths as a consequence of contact with VCM have occurred to people involved in the manufacture of PVC. [/FONT]"
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You are using a non polar super critical solvent on these pipes. They will leach those chemicals and heavy metals into your honey oil, a little at a time, so you'd never notice until you've reached toxic build up.
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gwerns you made beautiful oil but eventually you're going to get blow'd up real good if you don't change your process from what's shown in the pictures.
Best of luck, BHOE kicks making cannabutter's ass, so many uses for the resin. I've made corn syrup candies that are unreal, highly recommend it. When I want brownies from my Volcano dregs I do a BHOE and have amazing tasty brownies. A great process.
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https://www.rollitup.org/cooking-cannabis/300312-bhoe-comparrison-honey-bee-vs.html
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jasper2478
Active Member
i use a croc pot from walmart($10) made for fondue sauces works great for this all u need to do to is pour it in the croc pot and plug it in... let it cool down when u see its done and scrape clean...less mess easy clean up ....as the pvc pipe ....i just bought some m&m minis the bigger ones made a hole on the top and a few holes on the bottom.....if your just for personal use is all one would need...No need to be complicated....
gwerns nugs
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lol....thanks for the corrections. lol ill watch out
gwerns nugs
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ps i use electric cook tops......hence my advice...get a life
Check Out http://www.hotoilpot.com For the only safe efficient method for making medicine for healing purposes.
Boneman
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Ok so what is the method? There is no link to follow other than a buy it now link.This is the best method that i know of. follow the link
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420n00b
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I agree, you're just pimping a for cost method with out even describing it. You could at least do a lead in of something like "we found a completely different way of doing this using just a toilet paper tube and a snorkel" or some shit.
Don't just suggest people blindly buy something, thats just stupid. We're high, not handicapped....
EDIT: Now you guys are claiming you can cure cancer? Sure ease pain and nausea etc. but CURE?
420n00b
Active Member
Never heard of Rick Simpson so Google to the rescue. Here is Rick's website link which directly leads to his FREE process.
http://phoenixtears.ca/make-the-medicine/
lbezphil2005
Well-Known Member
Ronson has stuff in it to make it smell, therefore it will make your oil stink and taste bad
lbezphil2005
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I agree, you're just pimping a for cost method with out even describing it. You could at least do a lead in of something like "we found a completely different way of doing this using just a toilet paper tube and a snorkel" or some shit.
Don't just suggest people blindly buy something, thats just stupid. We're high, not handicapped....
EDIT: Now you guys are claiming you can cure cancer? Sure ease pain and nausea etc. but CURE?
This whole thing is from "Run from the Cure", a dvd that was made by phoenix tears to spread the word about what they claim cures cancer along with a bunch of other problems - makes sense, when you think about it - the human body has thc in it naturally, now why would a plant that grows naturally have it too? I think there is a combo there somehow, consuming the one makes us healthier. You make everything from pot - from clothes to soap to food, so why not let it cure cancer? I saw the video, I think rick simpson has a point. And he's not the one hawking it, he was giving it away!!