Has Medical Marijuana Peaked?

going kinda off topic arent you with including food. i get the idea but to me its different. and i wasnt worried about my mom catching me. im actualy federlay legal to grow it unlike yourself, im assuming american, im not a kid living with mommy. she passed away 30 years ago, but thx for the reminder...lol
my only beef with all the shops is its shit weed in most of them and way way over priced. cost me on average about 5 bux an oz to make it. not sure why the need for 40 a gram as we see posted. just seems a tad greedy. if i wasnt able to grow my own i wouldnt be able to buy it even at the 9 buck grams here...and i rely on it being terminally ill. just annoys me to see others making money on my death. kinda like pharma does isnt it

i don't mind people making money from helping my illnesses - just not disproportionate amounts - i don't like it that i have a nightly pill that costs the state $25 for some ungodly reason..
pot should not have black market value - but, it cannot have no value - nothing has no value, nothing..

Cannabisworks said:

like was said...why the need for a store. its a plant and should be left to do as we want without needing to pay through the ass for it. sell the shop and give the weed away cheep or free.

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What? You don't have to pay rent? If you can afford to work all day so you can give stuff away, that's great for you, but not all of us are in that position.

and the 40 an hour the so called non profiters pay themselves is why the cost. wished i got 40 an hour to toss buds in a bag and be baked all day.

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So why don't you?

ford442 said:

i don't mind people making money from helping my illnesses - just not disproportionate amounts - i don't like it that i have a nightly pill that costs the state $25 for some ungodly reason..
pot should not have black market value - but, it cannot have no value - nothing has no value, nothing..

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Agreed. Also, the more dispensaries, the lower the prices.

Competition = greater product and/or lower prices.

If someone can make a million dollars selling $40 eights, good for them. $65 is pushing it though. No reason for that. And usually the clubs who charge $65 an eight are the clubs who pay their vendors the least. Eventually with enough competition those clubs will either have to change their ways or be put out of business.

i dont need to charge. i do my work free. for a couple people. im not here to help the wolrd as i cant and nonm of us can so i chose a few and do as i can before i die. its called compassion. if you where terminaly ill you might get it but its usualy non sick that just cant wrap the head around it. thus we get the overinflated black market prices for sick and dying with little to no incomes .
there has been more and more disspensaries by the day down there..why has the cost not dropped as you said it should then..been years to..
i have no issue for those that want to charge for it but the prices you disspensary guys charge is a joke. it coist literlat pennies to grow an oz. there is no freekin way the costs need to be as high as it is down there. its cheeper down there to grow it than up here due to equipment cost is half down there but yet your more than double for the smoke than us..how come...greed and to cover the illegal stuff for when they get busted and do prison. not our fault you chose a risky bizz to get into so why do we pay your law risk costs on top.

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there is no doubt, that marijuana will flow into the capitalist river. it can't be helped.
with that in mind, there are two distinct schools of thought. the first is the role big pharma takes. they do not care about you, really. their main business objective is to "profit" through investment into the capital system.

then there is the role of the "citizen". who has moral, and ethic responsibilities that put restrictions on his actions. he is better suited to earn "wage", due to his "ethics" or belief that if he doesn't do anything really, it's not worth any thing. it's the reasoning behind most generous actions that people make. they profit, but in a way that isn't measurable with dollars.

in michigan, at the disp, decent weed starts at 20 a gram. i have really yet to see any disp meds that are even worth 200 an ounce. most of their hash is garbage. simpson oil?/............... really there shit is not that high grade.

what i've noticed most amongst disp owner's, is that they run the store to get rid of their "gangs" weed, and don't generally buy overages outside of their group. or. they are going to capitalize in the future. by that meaning, in every other instance, the disp owners are bargaining for the whole. and they are counting on the same for themselves.

my big problem, is with the dispensary. as much as they are needed, they need to be run more reasonably. not go for broke, fuck em all. then they still get to make the deals when the shit hits? we should all start a small disp. like buying a lotto ticket? get bought out by pharma for 6 figures?

in MI all the new appellate court decisions, restricting our freedoms, where in response to disp actions. the guy with the store front(15-20K my ass, more like whole in the fuckin wall), who jokes he pays 100 dollars for overages, has a counter full of meds for 16 a gram and up. that's it. he makes a fuckin killing. then all the attention to him is giving us a bad name. then, in the course of rectifying all this, the same profiteer who crashed it down gets to make the concessions.

this is what we need to curb. these disp owners who just care about the money. they are gonna scrap our whole fuckin system for a dollar, and personnally i feel like breakin their legs over it.(figuratively, of course)
i do believe in capitalism, profit, and the like.

sorry ernst-

LEGALIZE.

Lets just for a min say it went legal, big company's pop up. and drop the price so hard "like gas games" where everyone says fuck that I can buy it so cheep why grow. Puts out everyone that sells pot,grows it etc. seed stock is now controlled by big weed mart, well someone farted in the factory and now there is a shortage so the price jumps from pennies a gram to dollar. everyone says ahhh not that bad, we can still deal with that price... just like the fucking gas games. year or two later the government says we need more money so me can have more monkeys in the white house so 4 dollars a gram tax... now the price is starting to get to what it use to be,but everyone gave up all there seeds because shit was so cheep, weed mart is controlled by government and only sells pot with out seeds so no one has any seeds, everyone that use to sell pot and had grows went to work for weed mart for min wage and lost just about everything they owned while the government gets bigger. Then the day comes that the stuff is way over priced, and you can not grow your own because there is no seeds to be found, or they put out 100k reward for anyone growing unsafe weed that is not government approved.

some will say no way there will all ways be seed's rite, what if when someone farted in the weed factory and they had to kill everything .then like scrap metal, bring weed mart your seeds and they will pay you for them.Look at the history of the government. all they do is fuck us and control everything.

Cannabisworks said:

i dont need to charge. i do my work free. for a couple people. im not here to help the wolrd as i cant and nonm of us can so i chose a few and do as i can before i die. its called compassion. if you where terminaly ill you might get it but its usualy non sick that just cant wrap the head around it. thus we get the overinflated black market prices for sick and dying with little to no incomes .
there has been more and more disspensaries by the day down there..why has the cost not dropped as you said it should then..been years to..
i have no issue for those that want to charge for it but the prices you disspensary guys charge is a joke. it coist literlat pennies to grow an oz. there is no freekin way the costs need to be as high as it is down there. its cheeper down there to grow it than up here due to equipment cost is half down there but yet your more than double for the smoke than us..how come...greed and to cover the illegal stuff for when they get busted and do prison. not our fault you chose a risky bizz to get into so why do we pay your law risk costs on top.

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You know, you don't have to buy the top shelf bud at dispensaries. They usually have some mid shelf bud which is usually just as good for a much lower price. The difference between top shelf and mid shelf is usually just bag appeal. Bag appeal is not a medical need.

When people talk about "the expensive bud" at dispensaries they are usually talking about top shelf. Most dispensaries have bud available @ $25-35 an 1/8. Yeah, it's not purple hydro, but as I say, purple hydro is not a medical need. Dispensaries aren't obligated to give you a bargain on high bag appeal bud.

25-35 an eighth still too much? Buy a couple clones and grow your own. It's expensive to run a dispensary. They aren't there to just give you free shit. People do have bills to pay ya know.

We all hope to grow in the Sun one day... That's the base price IMO.

Dan Kone said:

You know, you don't have to buy the top shelf bud at dispensaries. They usually have some mid shelf bud which is usually just as good for a much lower price. The difference between top shelf and mid shelf is usually just bag appeal. Bag appeal is not a medical need.

When people talk about "the expensive bud" at dispensaries they are usually talking about top shelf. Most dispensaries have bud available @ $25-35 an 1/8. Yeah, it's not purple hydro, but as I say, purple hydro is not a medical need. Dispensaries aren't obligated to give you a bargain on high bag appeal bud.

25-35 an eighth still too much? Buy a couple clones and grow your own. It's expensive to run a dispensary. They aren't there to just give you free shit. People do have bills to pay ya know.

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top shelf, mids or crap. people on dissability cant afford it period. i live on maybe 400 a month...for everything. and i go through about good 1/.4 to half oz a day. and here cheepest is 7 bucks a gram. i cant afford that. there are no bulk deals here its gram cost all the way up no matter the weight
you obvious dont know diff of quality med and crap to say mids are same as top shelf. top is top for a reason and bag shouldnt be why. if your charging more for bag appeal your burning guys...in my eyes. i pay for quality not looks.
if you didnt feel the need to open a shop then you wouldnt have the bills you need to pay dood. ...lol. you caused your own debt now want sick and dying to pay your way.,
whats purple hydro...says nothing about a strain cept was done in hydro and might be purple. any wed can be purp. purp hydro can be a million diff strains.


ido have clones dood and make my own...and can give it away free to. im on dissability and can do it why not you...oh ya you wanted by your own choice to go in the hole and rent a building. do ti from home then no more cost.
yes 25 to 35 is to much for a guy that isnt working dood. you guys dont get it. most REAL medi guys dont work from the illness. the ones that can afford the hi cost usualy arent that sick and work still. good for them. so 6you can target money people only but not help the real sick ones that need it more. we need it for daily survival..not just to get hi.
to me the disspensaries are the ones messing it up for legalization.....

lets see how good the med would be.,..if i was suffering from seizures what type of efficacy would you recomend i used in cannabis to slow or stop them if i could????
lets see if you know what the med value even is or what med id need to treat this. you do say you sell meds right so you should know this right???

i think that when it is legal - there will be no more disagreement because people will get it easily and cheaply - no need to argue over a few pennies difference. before pot was banned only old women and mexicans smoked it because, really, it is not the most exciting thing in the world for young people to do. i tend to think that when the glamor of pot being treated as forbidden fruit wears off - there will be actually less people smoking and growing actively...

the price, i think, should be down somewhere between corn and saffron - look up saffron if you don't know how it is made - so, between $0.75 per unit and $100/oz maximum i would say.. either way - a $20 bag would last a person all weekend, much like $20 of beer..

even at 100 an oz thats about 300% profit. not sure why it goes from about 10 to 20 an oz to grow to 400 to buy it.

Cannabisworks said:

even at 100 an oz thats about 300% profit. not sure why it goes from about 10 to 20 an oz to grow to 400 to buy it.

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do you know that ALL industries use markup to make a profit? it's kind of how a BUSINESS operates. cannabis clubs are not welfare centers. they are businesses. they provide you with something that you once had to go to the streets to get.

if you have a need for marijuana then it is YOUR responsibility to fill it. if the cost is an issue then find another way.

i don't see ANYONE bitching about the price of jeans.

i need a new jacket because winter is coming and if i don't get one i will freeze and DIE. i want it at cost as well. none of this $200 for 10 bucks worth of material bullshit.

well this isnt a topic about wall mart to be even comparing jeans costs. ya we all know all bizz does mark up...not 400% though in most cases. i dont know any store where a cashier gets 40 or more an hour. they do at the so called non profit places. rediculous to pay themselves that to just sit and weight weed up
ans so far every shop here ive tried has crap street level cause its the same guy that where selling it on the corner now hide behind medi shops.
and most true medi arent working so they cant afford it. as you call it...its not a welfare project...well most of the customers are on it.


and ya i do bitch about the cost of jeans..just not the subject here. dont like the mark up of food either and many more.

Cannabisworks said:

well this isnt a topic about wall mart to be even comparing jeans costs. ya we all know all bizz does mark up...not 400% though in most cases. i dont know any store where a cashier gets 40 or more an hour. they do at the so called non profit places. rediculous to pay themselves that to just sit and weight weed up
ans so far every shop here ive tried has crap street level cause its the same guy that where selling it on the corner now hide behind medi shops.
and most true medi arent working so they cant afford it. as you call it...its not a welfare project...well most of the customers are on it.


and ya i do bitch about the cost of jeans..just not the subject here. dont like the mark up of food either and many more.

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lawyers make 100's if not 1000's an hour. for talking.

you're just mad.

Cannabisworks said:

ya we all know all bizz does mark up...not 400% though in most cases.

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Are you high or living under a rock? My markup is over 1000% with autmotive window tinting.

Guy can do something some else cant', his skill is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it.

And those people running those dispenaries are sticking their fucking necks out waiting for the FED to come in a butt fuck them, and all you do is complain about how much money they make. I wouldn't work at a dispensary for 40 bucks an hour, one it would be a pay cut, and two I don't want the cops and all the city officials and whatnot fucking with me while I'm trying to make money. I deal with it enough tinting windows, I wouldn't want more of it for less pay.

we coul dbe here all day comparing the non related info/. this has nothing to do with lawters or jeans or window tinting./ ya we all know some have more mark up than others..so they are greedy to...so?? greed is greed. not to many dying guys like myself are running out to need window tinting or jeans to keep healthy are they...
nobody asked them to put themselves at risk. did it out of greed. most dont even know what they are selling., its supposed to be a medicine and dont even test for its medical value. ive seen some actualy do harm to a patient cause they didnt have a clue. watched poor lady drop on the floor and have a siezure cause dum ass sold her sativa for wrong illness...pretend dr

another that didnt read the whole sentence...says in most cases. read it all. not pick n chose just to argue a pointless point