Harvesting a pound--Expert advice needed.

Hey everybody,

It's a pleasure to post here for the first time. There seems to be quite a bit of useful information on these threads. After browsing through some, I can't find any information that would be specific to my situation.

I'm a medical marijuana grower and I will be growing from clones. My plan is to use clones from a local cannabis cooperative, flower 12 indoor clones and use the Scrog method. I will grow the clones till they are about 1 foot high, and then I will begin flowering them.

What kind of equipment will be necessary to harvest a massive yield? I am a heavy smoker--about 3 pounds per year. If you do the math (and I assume you are too stoned to do the math!), this is 48 ounces each year. My goal is to harvest at least a pound every 2-3 months. Will one 400 watt HPS be suitable? Or will this require a more heavy-duty lamp?

Your input is appreciated,

Ian

You will need at least a 600w HPS or MH allotting for 1 square foot per plant, preferably a 1000w which would do you well for a 4x3 growing area with sufficient ventilation and temp/humidity control.

If you're going to expect a certain amount and it sounds important to you to make that quota I'd actually go over the minimum you might need to get a pound.

I'd say 1000w HPS, but 600 MIGHT do it if you grow well, but 400 no way in hell.

400 no way in hell with his timetable of harvesting every 2-3 months and flowering at a foot tall. Every 6 months and starting at 2 feet for flowering, no problem.

you wont hit that with much anything other than 1k(1000watts) of lighting if you will be using soil as a medium. Most beginners can get about 9-10 ounces from a soil grow under a 600 watt HPS but thats about max till they get some experience under their belts.

Bear*rack Olama said:

you wont hit that with much anything other than 1k(1000watts) of lighting if you will be using soil as a medium. Most beginners can get about 9-10 ounces from a soil grow under a 600 watt HPS but thats about max till they get some experience under their belts.

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Aaaaaannnnndddd once again, someone totally forgets about the factor of Time. Yes, you won't pull that much off with a 600w if you use the timetable of harvesting every 2-3 months.



See that? That's 2+ pounds from TWO PLANTS using a 400w HPS, NINE MONTHS OF VEGGING AND TRAINING.

People act like time doesn't exist or something. Given enough time and effort you can pull practically whatever you want from a single plant.

KaliKitsune said:

Aaaaaannnnndddd once again, someone totally forgets about the factor of Time. Yes, you won't pull that much off with a 600w if you use the timetable of harvesting every 2-3 months.

See that? That's 2+ pounds from TWO PLANTS using a 400w HPS, NINE MONTHS OF VEGGING AND TRAINING.

People act like time doesn't exist or something. Given enough time and effort you can pull practically whatever you want from a single plant.

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Thats fuckin badass man, +Rep

KaliKitsune said:

Aaaaaannnnndddd once again, someone totally forgets about the factor of Time. Yes, you won't pull that much off with a 600w if you use the timetable of harvesting every 2-3 months.

See that? That's 2+ pounds from TWO PLANTS using a 400w HPS, NINE MONTHS OF VEGGING AND TRAINING.

People act like time doesn't exist or something. Given enough time and effort you can pull practically whatever you want from a single plant.

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Incredible!

That nine month vegging time is just way way too long to make that practical though.

You traded three or four grow cycles for one, and while very impressive it makes absolutely no sense at all to do that.

ha ha you have fun with that vegging for over a year crap... I pull roughly 8-10 ounces wet from a harvest under a 400 every6-12 weeks depending on what strain that I got on deck I wanna use....and I veg the next group while one is flowering.
If I use clones from my Matanuska Thunderfuck mother, then her flower time is 6 &1/2 weeks. I can replicate your harvest much easier and much cheaper doing things this way....

How long were the flowering times to those girls? Even @ 8 weeks the grow with 9 months veg runs into 11 months total and prooves to be a flawed method by so.
If you got legal limits to stick to then thats one thing...otherwise whats the point in doing that much work.

What would you have done had one died in flower? Cried like hell thats what. LMAO

Most anyone can even with an 8 week everyday indica strain.

It makes perfect sense to do this to dispel nonsensical misinformation that people just hear and spout off like good brainwashed parrots. The biggest load of bullshit I hear is "Gram per watt" as if thermodynamics and time just didn't exist. "Oh, you can't get a pound per plant with a 400w light, it's not possible."

When it comes to correcting information and proving a point, doing something that takes that much time DOES make sense, if only to dispel the bullshit everyone else parrots off without bothering to do basic research first.

Bear*rack Olama said:

ha ha you have fun with that vegging for over a year crap... I pull roughly 8-10 ounces wet from a harvest under a 400 every6-12 weeks depending on what strain that I got on deck I wanna use....and I veg the next group while one is flowering.
If I use clones from my Matanuska Thunderfuck mother, then her flower time is 6 &1/2 weeks. I can replicate your harvest much easier and much cheaper doing things this way....

How long were the flowering times to those girls? Even @ 8 weeks the grow with 9 months veg runs into 11 months total and prooves to be a flawed method by so.
If you got legal limits to stick to then thats one thing...otherwise whats the point in doing that much work.

What would you have done had one died in flower? Cried like hell thats what. LMAO

Most anyone can even with an 8 week everyday indica strain.

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I did have fun with that nine month "vegging crap" as you so ignorantly put it. See, the purpose of doing things like that is for EDUCATION, something you seem to have no regard or respect for.

I did it because I CAN and everyone said IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE WITH A 400W LIGHT.

So yes, I had fun shoving about 5,000+ people's words right back down their throats when I did that grow.

What would I have done if one died in flower? Start another plant. Big fucking deal. Cry? Over a plant? So fucking what? I've had FIELDS of crops die on me when I lived on a farm, big fucking deal, replant and move on.

You talk as if you actually KNEW me or something. I suggest that stops until you actually do know me.

that is pretty impressive... but really that will take up 4 growing cycles with 1 month veg 2 month flower... (because after 9 months of veg, you still have to flower for 2 months)... also, in a system like that, time can work against you... its a matter of time before a timer or a pump fails... how pissed would you be if the pump failed at 8 months veg and both plants died? the other method would have gotten you 2 harvests...

either way - its really cool, but probably not for a beginner...

if you need 1LB per harvest, and you want harvests every 3 months - thats 4/year you will need a 1KW... BUT if you are doing a screen 2 600's would be better... i wouldnt go any lower than a 600 though, i've used 400s and i dont think they have enough penetrating power... 600s and 1Ks work great though.

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I did have fun with that nine month "vegging crap" as you so ignorantly put it. See, the purpose of doing things like that is for EDUCATION, something you seem to have no regard or respect for.

I did it because I CAN and everyone said IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE WITH A 400W LIGHT.

So yes, I had fun shoving about 5,000+ people's words right back down their throats when I did that grow.

What would I have done if one died in flower? Start another plant. Big fucking deal. Cry? Over a plant? So fucking what? I've had FIELDS of crops die on me when I lived on a farm, big fucking deal, replant and move on.

You talk as if you actually KNEW me or something. I suggest that stops until you actually do know me.

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And everyone who said it was impossible is still right and you proved nothing my man. You went to unreasonable lengths just to prove a point based on a technicality that doesn't matter one bit in the real world.

It doesn't matter if it can be done, it's so absurd it should almost never be done again.

You did a great job at it though, I don't want to just bash you for being stupid without saying that. Keeping something like that alive and flourishing for a year is no simple task.

Unless you started a grow like this every 3 months, That would only be 8 plants and 4 x 400 watt lights and 8 pounds a year, a lot of people with 2000 watts dont achieve this a year. Kudos to you kitsune.

25 2 gallon pots under a 1000w hps hortilux veg for 30 days and bloom for 7 weeks and you should have over a pound, if you use co2 or co2 pucks you will get almost 2 if you keep your temp around 78 daytime 60ish nightime and of course advanced nutrients part a nad b grow and connaseur bloom plus big bud ph 5.7 use good soil, and your done 2 ps every harvest that will give you 8 pounds a year easy peasy.

or 12 3 gallon will yield 3/4 of that . so that will b around 5ps a year or use a 600w and youll get 4 ps a year using 12 p

KaliKitsune said:

I did have fun with that nine month "vegging crap" as you so ignorantly put it. See, the purpose of doing things like that is for EDUCATION, something you seem to have no regard or respect for.

I did it because I CAN and everyone said IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE WITH A 400W LIGHT.

So yes, I had fun shoving about 5,000+ people's words right back down their throats when I did that grow.

What would I have done if one died in flower? Start another plant. Big fucking deal. Cry? Over a plant? So fucking what? I've had FIELDS of crops die on me when I lived on a farm, big fucking deal, replant and move on.

You talk as if you actually KNEW me or something. I suggest that stops until you actually do know me.

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I dont talk like I know anyone except those that i do know.
I have plenty of respect for education. Which is only reason Ive come back to this site in the first place, to help people.
Right now Im trying to educate the beginners that are going to run across this thread and see you veg this plant forever just to get a harvest all @ once, when in fact this is probably the most impractical means that Ive seen in a good while. Not to say that it dosent work and that it didnt work well because your plant looks healthy.

You could veg a plant the size of a christmas tree and flower it indoors if one wished...but that dosent mean that its practical or the smartest approach. You seem to want to brag about your grow, which is great and all But dont act like you just did the newest thing in growing since plasma lights were developed is my point.

Furthermore since you seem to have taken such an attitude in your post to me where I was being comical and pointing out another perspective for other people I gotta ask; What education are you providing to the users with that one picture and minute details about the grow?
If you veg a monster plant youll get a monster plant even more when it flowers and bears fruit? That is nothing more than what Fdd shows people with is outdoor grow or even the common person could know from growing tomatoes.

really want big yields? Look into vertical setups buddy, those are fun to do.
I know for fact a half pound dry can be pulled out of a vertical grow that has a 600 watt hps....cover the floor of a space with SOG clones and then start going up the walls placing them in a bricklaying pattern upon shelves.

Maybe you should teach planning is key to sucess instead of trying to just keep repeating that it could be done....Then someone may wish to say a little more than "nice picture hope you enjoyed doing that the hard way and taking forever to get there"

ok back to the poster.....get 1000w if you want a pound everytime. If your really good, you could probably get it from a 600w, but thats from a super experienced grower. Get 1000w, and make a room with proper temps and ventilation, and your set. 4X4 or 5X5 tray if your going hydro, id prob go 5X5

Children, children. Y'all need to chill out and bring the discussion back to where it is supposed to be. Check this out. I am doing an experiment right along these lines right now. I am in the process of building 2x2.5 ft boxes (4ea) which will each hold 10 hydro clones going 4 box SOG style under a 400w HPS. I figured I should be able to pull 1.5 oz per plant(for those non-math folks thats 15oz/harvest) after I get them
past first 6 week maturity. How? Well lets add a little science in this plant biology session. Sunlight is 10K/lumens per sq. ft....good par light ing is about 85/sq meter. to make this quick and simple. a 400 watt hps more than doubles the amount of optimum PAR in the correct spectrum that a plant needs in relation to the size of the grow space. Not to mention a super agro light that emits 50k lumens would give me sunilght lumenosity ratios. Now imagine being able to grow in excellent conditions with the normal intensity of the sun on a mid summer day? Don't ya think ur yields would be better? I do. Pictures coming soon.