Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

Hey stinkbud, firstly. this is a fucking dope set up, i love every detail its so well thought out. using the funds from my outdoor grow im defs building systems like these. Im planning on having 4 600w cooltubes in an 8x8 insulated room. I have a small question, i know plants like slightly higher humidity during veg. but does that mean you use a seperate sealed room for the veg stage? or do you use the the flower room as a "lung room" and have the air continuously flowing between the rooms through ducting?

BambamLFC said:

Hey stinkbud, firstly. this is a fucking dope set up, i love every detail its so well thought out. using the funds from my outdoor grow im defs building systems like these. Im planning on having 4 600w cooltubes in an 8x8 insulated room. I have a small question, i know plants like slightly higher humidity during veg. but does that mean you use a seperate sealed room for the veg stage? or do you use the the flower room as a "lung room" and have the air continuously flowing between the rooms through ducting?

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It doesn't really matter if you use one or two rooms. I like to keep my humidity under 60%, even in veg. Although you don't have to worry about bud rot during veg, you do have to worry about powdery mildew. 40%-60% works best.
StinkBud

Thanks man. i was just tryna picture how id connect both the rooms. i was thinkin leading the carbon filter from flower to veg room. and have the same power centrifugal fan with same length ducting leading back into flower room. but im not really sure how itll work pressure wise, as veg is 4x4 and flower will be 8x8. thanks for the info anyway, ill be buildin them soon! cant wait

BambamLFC said:

Thanks man. i was just tryna picture how id connect both the rooms. i was thinkin leading the carbon filter from flower to veg room. and have the same power centrifugal fan with same length ducting leading back into flower room. but im not really sure how itll work pressure wise, as veg is 4x4 and flower will be 8x8. thanks for the info anyway, ill be buildin them soon! cant wait

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That would work great bro. You could also just pull the air out of the veg room through the lights and out your house. That's what I did. That way you vent your veg room with the same fan you cool your lights with and still keep you flower room sealed.

I had my veg room in my bathroom and my flower room in my closet. I cut a hole in the wall from the closet into the bathroom and connected a 440CFM fan to the hole. Then I ran the output of the fan through the sealed lights in the flower room and vented into my attic.

StinkBud said:

That would work great bro. You could also just pull the air out of the veg room through the lights and out your house. That's what I did. That way you vent your veg room with the same fan you cool your lights with and still keep you flower room sealed.

I had my veg room in my bathroom and my flower room in my closet. I cut a hole in the wall from the closet into the bathroom and connected a 440CFM fan to the hole. Then I ran the output of the fan through the sealed lights in the flower room and vented into my attic.

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That's a sick idea. lol shit as if i didnt think of that. thatd cut out the need of a 3rd centrifugal fan. since all the lights will be sealed cooltubes thatd be mad! thanks bro you just saved me $175

Kind of what I do. My hood cooling fan is in my flower room 1 and all the hoods draw air from my Veg room which is next door to it. Only bad drawback is it lowers my veg rooms Humidity..

StinkBud Thank you for sharing your Knowledge and designs with us! All ready got the supplies for cloner, Veg, and 1 flower set up. Been trying to get caught up on all of the info amogest these pages but have only made it to about 110 or so. any way look forward to learning more from this thread.

MTSour said:

StinkBud Thank you for sharing your Knowledge and designs with us! All ready got the supplies for cloner, Veg, and 1 flower set up. Been trying to get caught up on all of the info amogest these pages but have only made it to about 110 or so. any way look forward to learning more from this thread.

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If you have not started building the cloner and purchased the rubbermaid totes. STOP. Go get the strongboxes from HD and Lowes. Won't leak like the rubbermaids will.

DarylP said:

If you have not started building the cloner and purchased the rubbermaid totes. STOP. Go get the strongboxes from HD and Lowes. Won't leak like the rubbermaids will.

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Strongboxes? IS that the name brand? I all ready have 3 Rubbermaid's still need 1 more but have not began construction on the units yet. So I could return them for the others if it would be beneficial. do you maybe have a link for the boxes your recommending? I will do a search and see what I can come up with. Thanks DaryIP

MT Sour... yeah thats actually the name on the them... at Lowes they have them with grey lids (light proof). Also the tops are almost too coincidentally set up with squares perfect for setting each pot. Also the tops are very strong, and easily hold all the weight you can throw at it. Most rubbermaids will fold.

reverof said:

MT Sour... yeah thats actually the name on the them... at Lowes they have them with grey lids (light proof). Also the tops are almost too coincidentally set up with squares perfect for setting each pot. Also the tops are very strong, and easily hold all the weight you can throw at it. Most rubbermaids will fold.

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I have found the the strongboxes and boy they do look to be a better pick. To bad I am about 80 miles from HD or lowes lol. I am not needing any of the units just yet so I am opt to go after the strongboxes. The last time I had a cycle going I had a Thrip problem or at lest that what I think they are. Well the last few days I had been noticing these little flying bastards again but in almost every room in the house!! Well after thinking about it I checked my wife's house plants and there was my problem. Little bastards where all over the top soil!! I sprayed the 2 big plants of hers that she has to keep, but we have like 3 others that must go today. I want to get rid of them all but the 2 are from her sister so she refuses to part with them just yet. What I am wondering is if I spray them for a few days and then top off the soil will that solve my problem I could add like 4 maybe even 5 inches of new soil to the pot the plant is in. Or do I have to pull the plant remove some of the soil and then top it off? I know that after my last cycle I am not going to start again till these little shits are dead and gone they destroyed several plants last cycle and I don't want to give them the same opportunity again. Any input would be much appreciated!!

Hi Prof. You may have covered this in one of the previous 943 pages but I was hoping you could help me understand why you go from one roughneck tub to two[stacked] from Veg onward? I'm thinking it's probably so that the roots don't eventually just sit in the water, but in that case could'nt I just put a protective screen in the reservoir, just above the water, to keep this from happening. I'm asking because I'd like to save as much height as possible.. possibly for another grow above it. Thanks

lownoise83 said:

Hi Prof. You may have covered this in one of the previous 943 pages but I was hoping you could help me understand why you go from one roughneck tub to two[stacked] from Veg onward? I'm thinking it's probably so that the roots don't eventually just sit in the water, but in that case could'nt I just put a protective screen in the reservoir, just above the water, to keep this from happening. I'm asking because I'd like to save as much height as possible.. possibly for another grow above it. Thanks

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My new rail system uses the same cloner for the veg unit also. The only difference is you add nutrients to the veg unit. The roots hang in the water. If you decide to let the plants veg a long time you may need to add an air stone to the reservoir. That will give the roots the oxygen they need. Basically it's a small DWC system at that point.

My new designs use 6 plants per unit. 3 units in flower and another unit in veg. This is different than my current design. My new room design adds 3 weeks to the veg plants. This means you harvest more per plant. (3-4 oz. per plant) but you also need a total of 4 Aero./NFT sytems, 3 in flower and 1 in veg.View attachment 2001461View attachment 2001448

StinkBud. Thanks for the quick response. My grow space will be a 2'x3' and 8' in height closet. So what I'm wondering is if you think I could have a successful grow using 1 roughneck tub for clone, veg, and flower? It would be set up just like your Veg system, aeroponics, Scrog... I will be using CFL [ i know you're not a fan] but with my small space I'm thinking it'll help keep the plants short and also heat will be less of an issue. If you think it's plausible please let me know how many plants you would suggest for the space available to avoid it getting to cramped. I'll be trying to grow Strawberry cough. I've also been told that organic nutes can be tricky with an aeroponic system because they clog up the emitters. I know you don't seem to have this problem so if you could also recommend nutes I know I'm asking a lot but I'm new at this shit. While you're at it could you recommend a decent timer capable of 1 min on and 5 min off [ without breaking the bank]. While I'm at it do you still think roughnecks are the way to go or do you recommend another brand.. I'll stop now. Thank you so much for this thread .. I also just registered to your site. thanks again.

Lownoise83

Lownoise You could build a small version of the rail system that would fit inside your grow space.. Just custom design it to fit and veg and flower in that. You would only be able to do one run at a time but. It would be a better system for the larger flowering plants. Try running Botanicare line of nutes. We have a good thread on the Stink site you might like to read.
http://www.stinkbuddies.com/forum/showthread.php?2455-superstoners-botanicare-recipe-and-feed-schedule Plus a spreadsheet for calulating the Ml's per res gals.
http://www.stinkbuddies.com/forum/showthread.php?4355-Superstoners-Botanicare-Recipe-Spreadsheet I would only plan on running 2 plants in that amount of space. Forget the roughnecks get the strongboxes from Lowes and Home Depot.

DarylP said:

Lownoise You could build a small version of the rail system that would fit inside your grow space.. Just custom design it to fit and veg and flower in that. You would only be able to do one run at a time but. It would be a better system for the larger flowering plants. Try running Botanicare line of nutes. We have a good thread on the Stink site you might like to read.
http://www.stinkbuddies.com/forum/showthread.php?2455-superstoners-botanicare-recipe-and-feed-schedule Plus a spreadsheet for calulating the Ml's per res gals.
http://www.stinkbuddies.com/forum/showthread.php?4355-Superstoners-Botanicare-Recipe-Spreadsheet I would only plan on running 2 plants in that amount of space. Forget the roughnecks get the strongboxes from Lowes and Home Depot.

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I hear you darylP and thanks for the response. I suppose I still just don't understand what the benefit of the rail system is. If the benefit is more space between flowering plants then can someone fill me in on the ideal amount of space between plants . Also any other benefits of going with the rail system. Thanks

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lownoise83 said:

I hear you darylP and thanks for the response. I suppose I still just don't understand what the benefit of the rail system is. If the benefit is more space between flowering plants then can someone fill me in on the ideal amount of space between plants . Also any other benefits of going with the rail system. Thanks

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One support of the plant. Rails hold more weight than the totes. You could just do two DWC buckets and call it good.

StinkBud I read the first 50 pages of this thread and I gotta say you got the patience of a saint !! What a great read .. From reading a few pages at the end it sounds like the last 2 years have been good for you. I hope that's what Karma is all about..

lownoise83 said:

I hear you darylP and thanks for the response. I suppose I still just don't understand what the benefit of the rail system is. If the benefit is more space between flowering plants then can someone fill me in on the ideal amount of space between plants . Also any other benefits of going with the rail system. Thanks

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The rail system has a super fast growth rate! You can almost watch the plants grow. I've personally never had problems with algae in the water like I've seen with some DWC systems.

Another great option is using Coco with a drain to waste system. It's real easy to maintain and works well with a perpetual harvest.