Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

fatman7574

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Forums sites are filled with inaccuracies and myths. Even diatoms (small brown algae cells) require light. They are classified as low light, but still light is needed. They can be eliminated by total elimination of light, but that is hard to achieve. Cracks around net pots provide sufficient light. Lighting the at penetrates through plastic is adequate light. For an example, you,need flat black to absorb all light so none penetrates, but u you need white to reflect the light if at all possible to prevent heat gain. IE to prevent all algae you must paint the reservoir and all pipes flat black then cover that with flat white paint. So approximately 85% of the light is reflected by the flat white paint and what is not is absorbed by the flat black. So 15% of the heat energy is absorb by the painted surface and the rest is within the reflected light BUT no light penetrates into the reservoir. The other choices are using something like Mylar plastic, aluminum foil or Panda wrap. Krylon fusion paint is made for painting plastic. It is the same paint used to paint plastic bombers and plastic body panels on vehicles. Normally the way to control brown algae is to limit its food source. Can't do that with a nutrient reservoir. Usually brown algae is pretty much ignored as it is preferable to green algae and it prevents green algae growth as green algae can not grow over the brown algae. Algae causes some pH issues but as it uses CO2 amd produces O2 it is actually beneficial to some degree. In aquariums it causea sizable DO rise when the lights are on. The few nutrients it actually uses in a nutrient reservoir is negligible overall.
 

fatman7574

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An aero system that is well designed and built delivers nutrient water that is fully saturated with DO to all the roots regardless of the water temp (within reason). Even 100 degree F water has over 6 ppm of DO at saturation. A misted 30 to 90 micron droplet is saturated with DO due to its being sprayed, regardless of the reservoirs temp or DO. No low pressure aero waer from the high flow spray heads used with a low pressure pump do not mean water DO saturation. The DO is usually not increased at all by the spraying of the water with such sad systems. You only need enough DO in the reservoir to prevent growth of anaerobic bacteria. You can even control that with chlorine.

The temp issue is really just to slow bacterial growth morethatto allow a higher DO saturation. Increasing the temp fron 68 degrees to 100 degrees F means a 1/3 reduction in the normal saturation level of DO. That maens tere is still about 3 times more DO thatn is needed. It is delivering that water with DO that is important. If it is not delivered well then itmatters not wheter it started out in the reservoir at 6 ppm or 9 ppm. That is really not an issue either as killing the bacteria with chlorine n means the high temps have to affect as there are no bacteria to multiply.

I run my systems at 93 to 95 degrees F 24/7. I paid for the heat the lights generate so I use it for faster growth rather than throwing it all away. At those temperature it requires using supplemental CO and dehumidification. My nutrient water is the same temp as the room temp. Yes I use chlorine at 0.5 ppm. It is system design that is important. The temp and therefore the some what related DO issues and bacteria issues really only come into play when the system design is poor.

Well designed systems do not experience root death due to low DO caused by poor distribution of nutreint water. Therefore root rot is not an isue. Nor is bacteria and issue with a properly designed and managed system. IE the typical poorly designed DWC systems, low pressuree small tube Aero systems and the small trough NFT systems used by so many experiencing root rot that is not an issue withlarge tube and deep chamber aero that is medium pressureor HP or air atomized. Yes, the dwc systems can de designed to prevent the Rootrot issues, and the other systems such as the NFTand small tube aero system with low preesure can also be designed to prevent root rot. There efficiency is still low though in comparison to the medium andhigh pressure large tube and deeop cahmber systems however. They produce slowers grows with lower yielsd, but they are cheaperto set up. the systems just need to be modified/improved not necessarilly discarded.

I am a user of chemical nutrients. The high temps in a organic nutrient reservoir is not really an option because you must have bacteria and enzymes in an organic system and much more reservoir DO due to the needs of the reservoir bacteria. High temps in an organic reservoir cause massive multiplication of the bacteria population. They use massive amounts of DO for this multiplication.

It is going to be hard to find time to write up good threads when I take the time to reply to posts such as the algae not needing light posts. Give me a break folks, post like that should never see the light of day.
 

cvbud

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The day you start posting nude photos of your self in this forum with your name painted on your fore head for my enjoyment I will consider posting photos of my systems for your enjoyment. Besides the knowledge provided in my jabbering trumps any candy *ss photos you could post of your system or any other systems in this journal
you sound very angry. maybe you should try smoking some of the stuff you claim to grow. it might mellow you out a little, and get you back on topic. maybe you just need a hug or something. my cat was bothering the shit out of me the other day and nothing worked to calm her down. then i spilt a little beer on the floor, and she is happy as a clam. sometimes its just the simple things fatboy, but i do recommend looking into them. you might extend your life a little by taking all the stress out.
im not trying to offend you, but i bet if you read your posts out load to your mother, she would think you are a little angry as well.
 

fatman7574

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you sound very angry. maybe you should try smoking some of the stuff you claim to grow. it might mellow you out a little, and get you back on topic. maybe you just need a hug or something. my cat was bothering the shit out of me the other day and nothing worked to calm her down. then i spilt a little beer on the floor, and she is happy as a clam. sometimes its just the simple things fatboy, but i do recommend looking into them. you might extend your life a little by taking all the stress out.
im not trying to offend you, but i bet if you read your posts out load to your mother, she would think you are a little angry as well.
Aren't you a judgemental little newbie. Actuallly Dude, I do not smoke or drink anymore. I lost the ability to do either in moderation a long, long time ago.

It is about growing, not using. I do not need drugs, alcohol or cigarettes. They are for people who can not handle reality. I can handle reality Dude. It does not require me to use drugs to grow or sythesize than. I am never mad at my mother or clean and sober people as they have no croutchs to carry them through reality like drunks and addicts, just unkowning drunks and stoners that think they know so much but obviously do not.

I was growng hydroponic indoor mj very likely before a great majority of the posters to this forum were born. Do I miss smoking it? No. No more than I enjoy the memories of being on unemployment and as soon as I got my check every two weeks running out and buying a bag of buds before I even bought diapers for my first born child or food for myself and my young working wife. I thought growing pot would make that memory of putting drugs ahead of my family go away. No, it just made the families go away. However, I still feel those feelings, after three divorces and 19 years clean and sober. Gives you a lot to look forward to doesn't it Dude.

Do I still grow mj? Duh, how much is it worth? Then consider I have enough experience it cost me about 50 cents a dry gram to grow. I may be *sshole, but I am not stupid. Oh, yeah I am one happy camper Dude. Given a chance to start all over agin, NO i would have ever piv cked up that frst bowl, the first drink or ever started growing mj. Now are you happy Dude? How long has it been since you havespent much timeclean and sober Dude? So go smoke another bowl pot head. My mother is actually quite happy with me. I spent almost two years in Viet Nam as a medic. I spent decades as a pacticing addict. I started drinking at 11, smoking pot at 12, started slamming meth at 15, went through three divorces and prison, had my youngest child die in my arms after being run over in my front yard by a stoned and drunk driver two years after I quit using and through it all including war time I have never killed anyone. Although people like you make me wonder why I have not. So maybe you think you are not an addict. You know the fact that your reading about growing pot and likely are growing pot and the fact that your promoting the use of pot would seem to clearly indicate that yes you are an addict. The fact that you also drink tends to indicate you are dually addicted. If you ever are lucky enough to again live in reality (without drugs and alcohol) you will also likely have wonderful memories and true feelings again instead of the dulled lack of reality you call life. I wish Icould be around then to call you an angry man Dude or to say how much your mother is dissapointed in you.

Smoke another bowl Dude. Have another beer. Be artificially happy Dude. It will go well with your artificial intelligence. It is amazing that stoned and drunk people always seem to think they are so smart.
 

cvbud

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yes, a hug is a must for you! i promise i will pray that someone will be kind enough to hug you. im sure that if we all think about it hard enough, it could happen. infact im even going to pray that my next three hugs are bypassed, and forwarded to you. i have a few to spare, and i really want to help a brotha out! is anyone with me? does anyone else want to try and help this guy out by maybe praying for a miracle to happen? lets get this guy some hugs.
 

Scuba

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Aren't you a judgemental little newbie. Actuallly Dude, I do not smoke or drink anymore. I lost the ability to do either in moderation a long, long time ago.

It is about growing, not using. I do not need drugs, alcohol or cigarettes. They are for people who can not handle reality. I can handle reality Dude. It does not require me to use drugs to grow or sythesize than. I am never mad at my mother or clean and sober people as they have no croutchs to carry them through reality like drunks and addicts, just unkowning drunks and stoners that think they know so much but obviously do not.

I was growng hydroponic indoor mj very likely before a great majority of the posters to this forum were born. Do I miss smoking it? No. No more than I enjoy the memories of being on unemployment and as soon as I got my check every two weeks running out and buying a bag of buds before I even bought diapers for my first born child or food for myself and my young working wife. I thought growing pot would make that memory of putting drugs ahead of my family go away. No, it just made the families go away. However, I still feel those feelings, after three divorces and 19 years clean and sober. Gives you a lot to look forward to doesn't it Dude.

Do I still grow mj? Duh, how much is it worth? Then consider I have enough experience it cost me about 50 cents a dry gram to grow. I may be *sshole, but I am not stupid. Oh, yeah I am one happy camper Dude. Given a chance to start all over agin, NO i would have ever piv cked up that frst bowl, the first drink or ever started growing mj. Now are you happy Dude? How long has it been since you havespent much timeclean and sober Dude? So go smoke another bowl pot head. My mother is actually quite happy with me. I spent almost two years in Viet Nam as a medic. I spent decades as a pacticing addict. I started drinking at 11, smoking pot at 12, started slamming meth at 15, went through three divorces and prison, had my youngest child die in my arms after being run over in my front yard by a stoned and drunk driver two years after I quit using and through it all including war time I have never killed anyone. Although people like you make me wonder why I have not. So maybe you think you are not an addict. You know the fact that your reading about growing pot and likely are growing pot and the fact that your promoting the use of pot would seem to clearly indicate that yes you are an addict. The fact that you also drink tends to indicate you are dually addicted. If you ever are lucky enough to again live in reality (without drugs and alcohol) you will also likely have wonderful memories and true feelings again instead of the dulled lack of reality you call life. I wish Icould be around then to call you an angry man Dude or to say how much your mother is dissapointed in you.

Smoke another bowl Dude. Have another beer. Be artificially happy Dude. It will go well with your artificial intelligence. It is amazing that stoned and drunk people always seem to think they are so smart.
You need some serious help dude, really why the hell are you on here when you are so negative anyway, we would all be better off if you computer blew up right now.
Don't just yell at ppl because your wrinkly ass can't smoke weed anymore (i don't care if you don't want to)...... I bet I'm happier then you any day of the week with my 4oz of manicured green. and im not a reject like you, i make money smoking AND selling legal Mary Jane.
 

northeastern lights

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you sound very angry. maybe you should try smoking some of the stuff you claim to grow. it might mellow you out a little, and get you back on topic. maybe you just need a hug or something. my cat was bothering the shit out of me the other day and nothing worked to calm her down. then i spilt a little beer on the floor, and she is happy as a clam. sometimes its just the simple things fatboy, but i do recommend looking into them. you might extend your life a little by taking all the stress out.
im not trying to offend you, but i bet if you read your posts out load to your mother, she would think you are a little angry as well.


Oh so funny +rep. I'm about to "spill" a little beer into my mouth and when I say a little I mean 7 or so.
 

cvbud

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Oh so funny +rep. I'm about to "spill" a little beer into my mouth and when I say a little I mean 7 or so.
ill take an invite. and we should smoke a little, and pour a little out for our hommie fatboy. he could use some lovin in the air. my heat goes out to you fatty! im still prayin for a hug in your life. keep me updated on your progress.
 

cvbud

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anyway to get back on topic. Stink system is pure genius. im with it all the way. what id like to do, is build a system just for one light. i was thinking that the flower room system could fit under one light, even if i added a fence post. so instead of two, i would just use a bigger (wider) res, and have three fence post not just two. does anyone have any input on this? or have they done it.
and does anyone know how to get ahold of Stink's DVD?

+rep stink! sorry to encourage such behavior on your magnificent thread. i hope to get back on track.
 

txhomegrown

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I nearly killed myself drinking and had to quit 22 years ago. I was really pissed for a while but I GOT OVER IT! I might suggest you try it too fatman. I am sorry you were in Nam all by yourself and in prison all by yourself. And that you are the only person that anything bad has ever happened to.
And the fact that you are so down on all the "losers" that smoke weed, yet you sell it to them makes you somewhat of a lowlife. You are going out of your way to enable people to do the things that you so obviously were unable to handle. You poor pitiful excuse for a man.
 

doc111

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I nearly killed myself drinking and had to quit 22 years ago. I was really pissed for a while but I GOT OVER IT! I might suggest you try it too fatman. I am sorry you were in Nam all by yourself and in prison all by yourself. And that you are the only person that anything bad has ever happened to.
And the fact that you are so down on all the "losers" that smoke weed, yet you sell it to them makes you somewhat of a lowlife. You are going out of your way to enable people to do the things that you so obviously were unable to handle. You poor pitiful excuse for a man.
Ever hear the expression "You reap what you sow"? It's not just a cliche, it's true! Maybe the mods at the site turned over his pics because he was such a nice guy. Yeah, that's it. :roll:
 

fatman7574

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I nearly killed myself drinking and had to quit 22 years ago. I was really pissed for a while but I GOT OVER IT! I might suggest you try it too fatman. I am sorry you were in Nam all by yourself and in prison all by yourself. And that you are the only person that anything bad has ever happened to.
And the fact that you are so down on all the "losers" that smoke weed, yet you sell it to them makes you somewhat of a lowlife. You are going out of your way to enable people to do the things that you so obviously were unable to handle. You poor pitiful excuse for a man.
I sell no mj. I am a consultant to a mj non profit orgainzation that grows medical mj. I maintain one or tow test bed systems in my home for design testing and research. IE notice the words NON PROFIT. It requires a permit from the state to make purchases. The majority is actually provided to registered/licensed users free of cost. None is sold to no medical mj users. Most is actually distributed for only the cost of the monthly $10 dues required to join the non profit organization. I am a fully tenured college professor with a PhD, a Masters, and a handfull of Bachelors degree. I own two small businesses and own and operate an engineering consulting/design firm. The businesses are a coral propagation business and reef aquarium systems design business. I employee three full time engineers and an administrative staff of 4 people and keep an average of 4 or 5 part time graduate students empoyeed at any given time in the reef business.

I have no need for the money that could be made from illegal drug sells. I have never in my life sold drugs child, nor have I ever supplied mj to anyone but a person with a permit for medical marijana. I paid the attorney d fees and all cots needed to start up the first non profit organization in myhome state in 1987 after the 15 year old daughter of a friend entered chemo therapy treatment for cancer. She was the frst client to receive mj from the organization. Have I designed systems for people who may not use them for growing medical mj. I do not ask them who they will be growing for or why. I tell them how I feel about drug addiction and "recreational" use of drugs and alcohol and leave it at that. I do not ask people here who ask for help what they intend to do with the mj they grow. My control stops at what I grow. I know what I grow and the on prf ofit grows only goes to legal medical mj users. Much even gets thrown away. At an averageproduction cost of less than 50 cents per gram who acres about a few pounds thrown a way evey week or so. Recreational users are loser. They are wasting a part of their lives (wasted/stoned out side of reality) that they can never relive with all their senses. That is losing.

Selling pot. I likely pay more in taxes per year then the combined yearly incomes of 10 or more posters on this site.
 

fatman7574

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The intent of these sites is to sell seedsm not to hepl growers. Te selling price of isseeds is likely about a 50,000% mark up or more. The seed sellers makeFat Mikie's mark up seem like nothing and his mark up is likely 2000%. If to keep the site on line to sell seeds require them to provide info to police they would have no second thouhts. They provide the info. Simple as that. You don't actualy think these sites are really for the benefit of growers do you. Do you think seed growers want potgrowing tobe lega. ot very likely as then their seeds would not be worth squat. Do you think, AM, GH, Dutch Masters, Canna, or otainiacrewnatpot growing to belegal. Get real. That's grand. The people making the most from mj growing being ilegal wanting it to be legalized. Fat chance children. The better growing info you post to a grwoing forum and the better photos you post the more likely your pis will end up on the desk of a prosectutor dude. But I am totally lega dude.

Having the info turned overby a fourum adminisrtarive staff gives the photos some appearnce of reliability to a uninformed jury, as the record of the IP source and posters name is supplied with each photo. Proxie sites are no protection what so ever.
 

cvbud

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The intent of these sites is to sell seedsm not to hepl growers. Te selling price of isseeds is likely about a 50,000% mark up or more. The seed sellers makeFat Mikie's mark up seem like nothing and his mark up is likely 2000%. If to keep the site on line to sell seeds require them to provide info to police they would have no second thouhts. They provide the info. Simple as that. You don't actualy think these sites are really for the benefit of growers do you. Do you think seed growers want potgrowing tobe lega. ot very likely as then their seeds would not be worth squat. Do you think, AM, GH, Dutch Masters, Canna, or otainiacrewnatpot growing to belegal. Get real. That's grand. The people making the most from mj growing being ilegal wanting it to be legalized. Fat chance children. The better growing info you post to a grwoing forum and the better photos you post the more likely your pis will end up on the desk of a prosectutor dude. But I am totally lega dude.

Having the info turned overby a fourum adminisrtarive staff gives the photos some appearnce of reliability to a uninformed jury, as the record of the IP source and posters name is supplied with each photo. Proxie sites are no protection what so ever.
well............you type and spell like your high! or your just a bored 15 year old. nuff said. this is a thread about stinks system. not your life story. please start another thread entitled "fatboy's rants and raves". im sure you will have a great following. thanks for all your input and help though. we are all soooooooooooooooooooooooo grateful you stopped by.
 

sixstring2112

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I though i would read Something about harvesting a couple pounds of weed and i get this?Fatman your posts are very hard to read when i'm not high, but when i'm stoned they are a buzz kill.
 

eyes ableed

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How would you guys fit say 12 stinkbud systems 2 under each 600w in a room that i can scale down to any size, i would like to run them in a way that i could vent the insulated lights the most efficiently like in 2 rows prefferably on light movers. i want to max out gpw's
 

LVsFINEST

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Stinkbud (or anybody or can answer),

I'm having trouble finding this info within the 850+ thread, so forgive me if you've answered these questions before. The advanced search function just pointed me to this thread, not a specific page. Anyway,

What is your flower room dimensions?
Veg room dimenstions?
You use 1 cloner, 1 veg unit, 3 NFT/aero? Correct?
Why is there fewer spots on your veg unit than cloner?

Thank you for your time.
 
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