Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

DubB83

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There's no way you will get decent spray with one 396 GPH pump to 40 sprayers! Sorry!

I've found the 396 to handle up to 20 ok.. with 22 the sprayers it was not powerful enough to completely spray 360 degrees. The ECO633 works great with 22--I don't know how it would handle with 40.... The 396 with 6-8 sprayers is working great for my cloning needs.
Just a thought: It might be nice to have the same pump for all - makes backup easier... (though I have chosen to run multiple sizes too). ...so while the AeroCloner may be able to get away with a smaller pump, the flower unit (14+) sprayheads can not. Now you need 2 types of extra pumps for emergencies... not really a big deal.

Note: The actual EZclone 30, uses a 500GPH pump for 17 sprayheads.

http://cgi.ebay.ca/EZ-Clone-30-site-hydroponic-cloning-system-New-Design_W0QQitemZ110322072116QQcmdZViewItemQQptZHydroponics_Seed_Starting?hash=item110322072116&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1215|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318


You two are correct. I'll be using the 396 in a cloner and a new 1056 in the 36 site unit. Pictures will be up in my thread soon. I've been too busy. BTW, my system looks like poop compared to some of your guys, but hey, I think it will work ok.
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andyman

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Lumens do not add up. A 600 watt bulb puts out more lumens than a 150 watt bulb.



Bigger bulbs can cover a larger area. Please see table below for a generic coverage;

1000 Watt 6' x 6'
600 Watt 4' x 5'
400 Watt 2' x 4'
250 Watt 2' x 3'
150 Watt 2' x 2'


The 600 watt will also penetrate the top canopy of leaves better due to being brighter.

So moral of the story, the plants will get more of what they need(lumens) with a 600 watt.

With the 4 150's could hit about a 2 x 8 space approximately.
From many things Ive been reading plants use lux not lumens . lumens is how bright our eyes see light not plants:wall:. the color spectrum is acctually more important. these highpressure sodiums and metahalides only make about 10% of usable light for plants so 90% is wasted in heat and electric consumption:fire:. Ive been so sick of hearing people talk about how many lumens there lights put out. look it up everyone then call me out on it. not knocking anyone but its something you should all look into. This is why Im using l.e.d and flourecent. and maybe 1 or 2 hid lights. the leds put out red and blue thats what plants need. they need a little ultraviolet colors for resin production and fatter buds, thats where the hid lights come in (mh & hps) so Im going to use the led's and many cfl's to give the ultraviolet. I may use one or 2 hid lights untill I can afford to switch to all led's and cfl.
 

andyman

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HERE ARE BETTER PLANS.
WHEN I PUT ON WHITE = WH OR BLACK = BLK OR GREEN FOR GROUND = GRE

YOU CAN SWITCH THE WH AND BLK AS LONG AS YOU DO ALL THEM THE SAME.
THIS WAS MADE FOR A DOUBLE POLE SINGLE THROW CONTACTOR.

THE 2 TERMINALS ON THE COIL ARE WERE THE POWER FROM YOUR TIMER/TRIGGER COME FROM.

(these are only numbered to go allong with my drawing. the contactor #'s prob wont match up.)

THE INPUT IS FROM YOUR WALL AND THE OUTPUT/LOAD IS WERE YOU PLUG YOUR PUMP/PUMPS IN AT:leaf:

ps
also there is 2 spots were the wires cross over each other on the schematic.
They are not conected just jumping over it. 2 little humps to show not touching. hope that clears it up.
will add a build list later
 

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DIRTHAWKER

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Thanks for that andy.... im gonna get a big fat F in electrical wiring class...lol can you give a parts list? so that dumbasses like myself can walk into lowes and hand a piece of paper over to the man in the lowes vest. and once i have the parts i think the diagram might make a little more sense.
 

latinrascal

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Ok got another question. I picked up the blue labs truncheon ppm stick but dont know how to actually read it. There are 2 differect scales for ppm. one is 700x ec the other is 500xec. since there is a differecne of about 400ppm between the two which one do i use?
 

latinrascal

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Thanks for that andy.... im gonna get a big fat F in electrical wiring class...lol can you give a parts list? so that dumbasses like myself can walk into lowes and hand a piece of paper over to the man in the lowes vest. and once i have the parts i think the diagram might make a little more sense.
Check out my post #1713 a few pages back. i have a list of parts that i bought from lowes with upc and package codes. as far as the contactor you need to get that at a heating and cooling shop, lowes do not carry them anymore or at least thats what i was told when i inquired about them.
 

andyman

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Thanks for that andy.... im gonna get a big fat F in electrical wiring class...lol can you give a parts list? so that dumbasses like myself can walk into lowes and hand a piece of paper over to the man in the lowes vest. and once i have the parts i think the diagram might make a little more sense.
It does look kinda complicated on paper without the parts:wall:. Once parts in hand Im sure it will be easyer.:idea::-P

LIST

1- box of wire nuts (orange or yellow)
to fit 10-12 gage wire

2- wire about 2 foot of 12 or 14 gage
wire 12-3 or 14-3 should work 12 is
probbly over kill

3- surge protector/power strip like what
you would plug 5 or 6 pumps into.

4- box or bag of spade terminals female
(blue insulated ones should work)

5- a 30-40 amp double pole contactor

(I would get a 40 amp if I
didnt allready have a 30 amp at
work. I might change it later. A single
pole would work just ask me how.
or a double pole can be used to make
it able to use 2 power strips or surge
protectors. I will explain upon being
asked.)

6- a box to put it all into so its neat and
kept dry.

7- a appliance cord or lamp cord. nicer
the better but not real important. ( I
just used a lamp cord off a broken
lamp)

8- electric tape

9- inline fuse ( optional overkill :?: )

also I will post pics of how to make it 2x as good with the same double pole contactor.
and Latinrascal is right Lowes doesnt carry contactors , they just look at you dumb when you ask them.
most furnace/ac place or lighting places have them. Any were that sells lots of diy electronical stuff should have them or tell you were to get them.
Same thing could be used for one timer to run all your lights too.
 

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Thundercat

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the only problem with that idea jgoasnhja, is that the water will be flowing down the post towards the res every 5 minutes. I think even if you positioned the roots to head upwards, that over a very short period of time they would be pulled downwards by the water/ gravity.
 

havefungodumb

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I dont get these cuts can i get some help folks

1 - 11 1/2” length 11 inches and? 1/2? whats the 1/2 half a inch?

etc
6 - 4 1/8” lengths
3 - 14 3/4” lengths
2 - 12 1/2“
2 - 13 1/2”
 

havefungodumb

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thanks for reply..

one more question

this pvc pipe is it ok for stinkbuds setup,

its not white

says pvc conduit rigide 75o C...bla bla..

is that cool for his harvest setup im just doing one.
 

havefungodumb

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heres pic of it.
i think im missing something by the ball valve

didnt see it on his list or did i?

this is not STUCK together havnt used liquids or pvc cement yet.

question is what am i missing besides the misters/garden hose 1/2 adapter(something from pic tells me im missing something)

it looks cool lol,

i got more to cut, sorry to do it in this thread but it seems like a good idea
 

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havefungodumb

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i tried putting the setup together of course i messed up on cutting pvc a few times but what can ya do lol..

seems like at bottom of my pvc piping i got the 2 inch piping in there because i didnt know how to correct elbow to T?, am i doing it right?.

number 2 question::::::::

im using t's at bottom am i spose to? all i know is i got 2 t's left and i need another few more to do other side?..

HELP ME FOLKS my camera is dead as of NOW
 

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havefungodumb

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in stinks pic that bottom part looks like hes using a T as well,(by the elbow at bottom) the t is pointing at ground.

but he couldnt be i only got 2 t's left hows other side gona work?
 
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