DIRTHAWKER
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I have 5 pumps running off one timer,, no problemo.
Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!
- Thread starter StinkBud
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How do you do it, DirtHawker? Please tell me it's easy as pie and I can have it going in no time! Your setup and grow look great, by the way - I've taken more than one of your ideas too - and I'd love to steal another from ya in the form of this multi pump situation!
DIRTHAWKER
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I did exactly like stink. I have a cap dnr timer set to 1min on 5 min off. its plugged straight into the wall outlet (120 volt), from there to a power strip with all 5 pumps plugged in...easy as pie.
Input from anybody is appreciated...
I want to modify the AeroNFT unit a bit to fit my space better... I want to make a triple banger - the equivalent of a 3 x 4 with plants placed 12" apart on center. Please consult the attached PDF - code named - Triple Stink.
Am I stuck in a grow tray mentality? For some reason, I like to give my plants 1 square foot of grow space - with the general sizing of pots this has always been the sweet spot for me - a 4 x 4 gets 16 plants, and a 3 x 6 would take 18, etc... Where is the sweet spot for max yields in this system... I notice most commercial aero systems have their sites spaced 7" or 8" apart - much like the StinkMaster. But many people seem to use less than every site of their AeroFlo or AeroJet... If I place my plant sites 12" apart on center in the AeroNFT unit, will I get bigger plants and yields or am I better off going with tighter spacing and smaller plants - say an 18 or 21 site version of my TripleStink.
What is the best arrangment for the spray heads along the pipe if I go for 12" on center site spacing... The included layout sports a full 24 sprayheads spaced 6" apart - creating a sprayhead 3" on both sides of each pot. Is this overkill? With 12" spacing can I get away with the sprayheads placed 12" apart / 6" on both sides of each pot?
I'm hoping the EcoPlus 633 can support 24 sprayheads - it seems success with 21 sprayheads and the EP633 was attained by somebody here (another good looking mod of the classic StinkBud, set on 6' or 8' fencing - sorry I can't locate your name quickly right now).
Any comments, suggestions, or design flaws anybody can help me with, would be appreciated!
Did I tell you how much I love this thread! I haven't been this excited about growing ever!!!
I want to modify the AeroNFT unit a bit to fit my space better... I want to make a triple banger - the equivalent of a 3 x 4 with plants placed 12" apart on center. Please consult the attached PDF - code named - Triple Stink.
Am I stuck in a grow tray mentality? For some reason, I like to give my plants 1 square foot of grow space - with the general sizing of pots this has always been the sweet spot for me - a 4 x 4 gets 16 plants, and a 3 x 6 would take 18, etc... Where is the sweet spot for max yields in this system... I notice most commercial aero systems have their sites spaced 7" or 8" apart - much like the StinkMaster. But many people seem to use less than every site of their AeroFlo or AeroJet... If I place my plant sites 12" apart on center in the AeroNFT unit, will I get bigger plants and yields or am I better off going with tighter spacing and smaller plants - say an 18 or 21 site version of my TripleStink.
What is the best arrangment for the spray heads along the pipe if I go for 12" on center site spacing... The included layout sports a full 24 sprayheads spaced 6" apart - creating a sprayhead 3" on both sides of each pot. Is this overkill? With 12" spacing can I get away with the sprayheads placed 12" apart / 6" on both sides of each pot?
I'm hoping the EcoPlus 633 can support 24 sprayheads - it seems success with 21 sprayheads and the EP633 was attained by somebody here (another good looking mod of the classic StinkBud, set on 6' or 8' fencing - sorry I can't locate your name quickly right now).
Any comments, suggestions, or design flaws anybody can help me with, would be appreciated!
Did I tell you how much I love this thread! I haven't been this excited about growing ever!!!
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grodrowithme
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looks like it will work just fine and you should be able to use less head remember less s more sometimes
Hey Grodro - thanks for your response! Specifically - which spray heads could I leave off - or what sort of orientation do you think would give me sufficient coverage? I kind of like the redundancy of two heads per site but I'm all about keeping it SuperSimple (why I like the design so much!) I noticed the new generation of the AeroFlo2 - seems to use less spray heads as the sites get closer to the res/run off... Bailing on the 3 sprayheads closest to the res seems like a safe one for me - that brings me down to 21 - same as VP - and the only site without redundancy is the first one in front which is easiest to replace while in action.
Hey DirtHawker - your pump, power strip setup seemed fine to me too as even the bigger ECO633 only uses 35 watts - but it seems we did not figure on the 8 amp draw as the pumps first start - if you really want to play it safe, 2 pumps would acutally be overloading a 15A circuit... I sound like I know something, huh? I do know some stuff - but the best stuff I know came from this thread! I have no experience with this, but the thread on page 155 seems to discuss this issue - unless I misunderstoned it! It seems Andyman has a solution - a relay of sorts?
andyman
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still workn on a good easy way to put it down on paper. its alot like hookin higher power lights in your car with relays. I used a contactor. you could easy make one I think using a timer allready owned , extention cord, contactor or relay and multi plug surge protector power strip thing.
I will try to get it on paper at work tomorrow.
repvip
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LionsRoor:
Like the ideas.. just a few quick things I thought of while reading your post..
What size reservoir were you thinking of? The 18gal is about 23" wide but probably only 18.5" usable working top area. You may need a longer one? Well, if you want exact 12" spacing
I'm using the Eco633 with 22 sprayers right now and it works great! The 396 was just barely drizzling. I think 2 more sprayers will be ok. My units have 2 6' posts with 10 sites/post for a total of 20/unit. The spacing is only 6" center to center, but I can cut back to every other one if I need to...
Stink or Dirt, with their experience might have some better opinions on spacing? I would think it would depend somewhat on how long you veg for, but these hydro plants grow so fast!! I'm playing it by ear with more sites/less spacing.. will adjust as necessary.
So.. the 6" spacing between plant and sprayers.. I could be wrong here, but I think the sprayers will reach 6"... pretty close anyway. My roots are pretty massive already... they will adjust to their new environment.. I think this would be fine.
Also, I have a question--are you only using one flower unit? With three posts so you can still harvest every 3 weeks off the same reservoir/unit? You should consider putting on/off ball valves between each post so when you harvest one you can stop the flow to that post.
I haven't been this excited about growing either! Just wait... just freaking wait until you get it up and running! Its so simple.. so easy. Dirt? Never again.
grodrowithme
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do you have a journal a started yet i would just use the ones that spray 360 degree you should be fine as long as there all spraying properly check my journal out its got a link to my diy cloners i build check them out
Hey RepVip - I followed your setup too - looks awesome - thanks for your response - very helpful!Like the ideas.. just a few quick things I thought of while reading your post..
What size reservoir were you thinking of? The 18gal is about 23" wide but probably only 18.5" usable working top area. You may need a longer one? Well, if you want exact 12" spacing
I'm using the Eco633 with 22 sprayers right now and it works great! The 396 was just barely drizzling. I think 2 more sprayers will be ok. My units have 2 6' posts with 10 sites/post for a total of 20/unit. The spacing is only 6" center to center, but I can cut back to every other one if I need to...
Stink or Dirt, with their experience might have some better opinions on spacing? I would think it would depend somewhat on how long you veg for, but these hydro plants grow so fast!! I'm playing it by ear with more sites/less spacing.. will adjust as necessary.
So.. the 6" spacing between plant and sprayers.. I could be wrong here, but I think the sprayers will reach 6"... pretty close anyway. My roots are pretty massive already... they will adjust to their new environment.. I think this would be fine.
Also, I have a question--are you only using one flower unit? With three posts so you can still harvest every 3 weeks off the same reservoir/unit? You should consider putting on/off ball valves between each post so when you harvest one you can stop the flow to that post.
I haven't been this excited about growing either! Just wait... just freaking wait until you get it up and running! Its so simple.. so easy. Dirt? Never again.
I'm using the Botanicare 25 gal MultiRes - it's the one they use for the Turbogarden. I had one of those laying around - had to order a blank lid - $40 something just for the lid but it should be perfect - the drawing is to scale using that res. Note this res has a very large lip - so the usable width is 29.5" even though the lid is over 35". My design puts the outer edges of the fence posts at 28". The lid is cut with the handle as in the drawing - so I designed the sprayline mainifold around the lid... here is a link to that res:
http://growwurks.com/botanicare-25-gallon-reservoir-bottom.aspx
Hey - nice idea about using one setup for multi stages... but, no, I am not doing that. I will be running at least 2 StinkBud Flower units eventually, but I will continue to run my Coco, drain to waste setup, alongside my modern AeroMacines. I am committed to running this antiquated setup for other reasons. I like to try different things so I'ved ebbed and flowed, and tried several types of top feed drip systems.
VIP - Thanks again for sharing - I really like your setup... If I had more room (and light!) in my flower room, I would have done 2 x 8' fence posts, sites set 12" on center. I wanted to make two of these, set them up side by side with a unified res to emulate a classic 4 x 8 setup with 32 sites - 2 1000's over that would be choice... and then have 3 of those setups... ha ha
DragonPhoenix
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Hey Stink -
would you mind sharing the process for making cannabutter with me?
Thanks,
DP
would you mind sharing the process for making cannabutter with me?
Thanks,
DP
havefungodumb
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http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=62253&page=2&pp=15
is that system like yours but bigger right? what u think of that?
is that system like yours but bigger right? what u think of that?
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StinkBud
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The extra space would be nice if you have it. Size and yield are directly proportional to the veg time. The longer you veg the bigger the plants and the larger the yield.
Problem is the plants grow so fast in Aero within three weeks the plants can actually get too tall. The light can't penetrate to the bottom leaves and buds.
6"-12" is the sweet spot to take the plants into flowering.
I would just put one sprayer 3" from each net pot. You will need a bigger pump though.
That's what I was thinking would work good. The next size bigger might be even a better choice. I had a 1200 GPH sump pump on my first system with 32 sprayers. You can get one at Home DePot for about $80.
Your design will work great! I love seeing people modify my design to fit their needs. Happy growing bro!
StinkBud
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1) Take a large pot, fill it to about 3/4 with water and bring it to a boil.
2) Drop in a pound or two of butter depending on how much herb you have.
3) Put in your herb and bring it to a boil. Keep stirring for about 15 min.
4) Strain the herb through a spaghetti strainer.
5) Strain it again through an old tee shirt or something.
6) Take the butter water and put it in the fridge until the butter floats to the top and hardens.
7) You will end up with a big slab of canna butter. Just break it off and put it in your freezer for when you need it. Use the butter just like you would normally do in your favorite recipe.
tip: if you keep straining the herb and adding more shake you can make a VERY strong butter. So strong you will start tripping if you eat too much.
Cookies, brownies, etc... all taste way better using canna butter than just adding shake to the batter.
Look forward to an 8hr high!!!
StinkBud
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I think he is running straight NFT. We are running a hybrid Aero/NFT system.
We are also using a cycle timer to give the plants 5 minutes of "air" time verses running the pump continuously.
He's going to wish he had thought of some sort of plant support before long!
DragonPhoenix
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Do you have any recommendations as to how much to add for a 1lb of butter? Does 1oz seem in the right area? I've looked around at recipes and stuff and I've never ingested cannabis. From what I've looked at it looks like cooking with cannabis is a more expensive way of getting the THC into your body as opposed to smoking it. Would you agree with that? I really have no idea so I'm just looking for a little help.
Thanks,
DP