Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

flabbyone said:

You lost me on that one. How much power are your pumps taking? These are the same timers everyone is using on this thread. rated at 15 amps I believe so you can power a shit load of pumps. What am I missing?
Flabs

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Thats what i thought.

latinrascal said:

Hey Stinkbud or anybody doing Stinks setup, have you ever tried to do a tiered setup with the system you have now, i was thinking that instead of just glueing the legs to the lower tee have on hand pre cut different length lower legs to lower your system as the plants grow i.e 20" set then 16" then 12 and so on. This way you can start off tall bringing the younger plants closer to the lights and then as they grow just lower them. of course you will have to have extensions for the plumbing and drainage also and i was thinking that you might be able to plumb those connections with vinyl hose for the pump side and something like the roll out gutter stuff that people put on the bottom of their downspouts. This might be useful for a cramped area so that you can keep your lights at a fixed height. Of course this is all based on the idea of keeping your plants as close to the lights as you can get them without burning them. One other thing I am trying to overcome is i am limited on height once you add the lights and filters and duct work. My room is just under 4 feet wide and 7 feet long and i am thinking about running 3 single systems. one other question. Can i run 1 res for 3 single systems or do i absolutely need 3 Different containers

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The most attractive part of this system is it's simplicity. I got wore out just reading what you want to do, haha. It sounds like a lot of work to avoid raising or lowering your light to me.

Sorry about all the posts in a row, I had a lot to say, haha

Stinkbud,

2 things:

1. Do your netpots have a large lip on them? I got some today and its like the lip is barely there, and I'm concerned the plants will fall through the lid, especially since I'll be using the Veg design for flowering and the plants will be heavier.

2. Do you think If I somehow rigged a screen to sit just above the water in the Veg unit, I could get by with just one 18 gallon roughneck? I'm working with limited space so the plants won't be huge.

Also, check out your local Lowes (if you have one nearby) for roughnecks. The one by me had a huge selection of sizes and colors.

LVsFINEST said:

1. Do your netpots have a large lip on them? I got some today and its like the lip is barely there, and I'm concerned the plants will fall through the lid, especially since I'll be using the Veg design for flowering and the plants will be heavier.

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They actually make a few different types of 2" net pots. They all work fine. Even the ones with the small lips.

2. Do you think If I somehow rigged a screen to sit just above the water in the Veg unit, I could get by with just one 18 gallon roughneck? I'm working with limited space so the plants won't be huge.

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Yes, that would work. I think you would be better off with a small Aero/NFT unit like the one I built as a test. It's working better than expected. It's just a scaled down version of my big system.

I know someone must be curious about my flower room so here are some new pics I just took.

I was due to start flushing the batch on the left a week ago but they where growing so strong I'm gave them another 10 days. The plants are actually going through a third growth phase.

I figure what the fuck, I got plenty of medicine so I'm kind of curious to see what happens when I let them go longer. I was going to start my flush tonight but I went snowboarding all day and I'm too tired to do it now.

I know the Elvy is loving the extra time. Check out the photo of the bud. The one plant has five buds this size! That's what happens when you top them.

The other photo is a strain called Goo. Smells exactly like grape Bubbleyum!

Finally got the first unit up and running! Transitioning from dirt and had to wait for room.

Wanted to thank StinkBud again, and share a few pics

It's clone city over here!

My flower units are skinnier and have the reservoir flipped long way so I can fit more units tighter together. Planning on vegging more plants for less time.. each flower unit has 20 sites and uses 6' posts with 5' pvc for the frame. I can easily fit 5 of these units in my flower room oh and I had to upgrade to the ECO633 pump because each unit has 22 sprayers and the ECO396 was barely making them drizzle.

Thanks Stink! Your flower room is incredible!

Thanks for the quick response. Unfortunately, my growing conditions are less than ideal and my only real option is using a 72in x 36in x18 storage locker. So space is a big concern. The roughnecks fit great with room to spare even. And when the lease is up, I'm definitely going with the Aero/NFT. Its not all bad, I did think of a couple pluses however; I'm starting with seeds and this will allow me to easily exterminate all males plus I'll be able to grow strains with different flowering cycle lengths.

how big are the plants when you bud them?

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I know someone must be curious about my flower room so here are some new pics I just took.

The other photo is a strain called Goo. Smells exactly like grape Bubbleyum!

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repvip said:

It's clone city over here!

My flower units are skinnier and have the reservoir flipped long way so I can fit more units tighter together. Planning on vegging more plants for less time.. each flower unit has 20 sites and uses 6' posts with 5' pvc for the frame. I can easily fit 5 of these units in my flower room oh and I had to upgrade to the ECO633 pump because each unit has 22 sprayers and the ECO396 was barely making them drizzle.

Thanks Stink! Your flower room is incredible!

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Wow. Both of those rooms look great.

DIRTHAWKER said:

Thats what i thought.

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I was told that the pumps start out at like 8 amps and then drop down to 1 or 2 amps after they are started, but the guy who told me thought they were for a diff setup. so I am not real sure. Maybe stink knows how many you can plug into a timer without maxing them out. The dude said it would just lower the life of the timer.

Wow!! Finally to the last page! First off thank you Stinkbud, I have been sitting quietly here reading this thread straight for 4 days now. I started at page 1 and didnt think it would end, not that Im complaining because its been a great thread!! I am new to hydro and I am so upset because I just invested all my money into buliding a decent DWC setup, and then I saw your thread. Im sure you have heard it enough but great job! I have been doin some serious reading for bout 4 months now before I started my new setup and I got to tell you, this has been the best bit of info by far.
Well luckly christmas is here so it looks like wify will be doin her shoppin at lowes this year. lol!
Sorry for such long message but to the rest of u who followed, you all are awsome too. All I can say is I will be scraping everything I just bought and made and have saved all your PDF files. Thanks again!!

I got a quick question for ya stink or anyone else who has been following the thread for a while.
I bought two 400 watt lights with Son Agro bulbs.
Im gonna build your system to your exact specs as space is no problem.
How much more light do you think I am gonna need to get your kind of harvest.
Also I would like to buy some HO Fluros to do the veggin and clonin, so basicly how could I use the two 400 watters I have now in conjunction with the flower/NFT setup and how much more light do you think is needed?
I was thinking another 1000 watter might pull it off

Again sorry to reply so quick but I have been paying attention to the strains everyone has been growing and was curious. I am looking for plants that have a very large yeild and are potent at the same time.
Has anyone ever heard or had the new Elephant Bud and Upstate from BCSeeds.com http://http://bcseeds.com/BC-Seeds/c33/index.html?osCsid=orcqqd4dchmmnor0ghrovgvtj5

Just lookin for advice on this or if its to good to be true?

P.s. Stinkbud I am to also a huge fan of Blueberry so I would have loved to be able to try yours bein its one of the originals. Im so jelous but at the same time very happy for you.

Thats realy usefull, keep use informed

Jgoasnhja said:

Wow!! Finally to the last page! First off thank you Stinkbud, I have been sitting quietly here reading this thread straight for 4 days now. I started at page 1 and didnt think it would end, not that Im complaining because its been a great thread!! I am new to hydro and I am so upset because I just invested all my money into buliding a decent DWC setup, and then I saw your thread. Im sure you have heard it enough but great job! I have been doin some serious reading for bout 4 months now before I started my new setup and I got to tell you, this has been the best bit of info by far.
Well luckly christmas is here so it looks like wify will be doin her shoppin at lowes this year. lol!
Sorry for such long message but to the rest of u who followed, you all are awsome too. All I can say is I will be scraping everything I just bought and made and have saved all your PDF files. Thanks again!!

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You may not want to be so quick with scrapping everything if you've got something purchased and set up. I can't speak for Stinkbud, but I assume he arrived at this set up after much trial and error and learning. You might like the DWC set up and if not most of the parts should be recyclable into any other hydro set up.

chucktownskunk said:

how big are the plants when you bud them?

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By State law I have to keep my veg plants under 12" or they count as mature plants.

The height will vary from about 6"-12". I prefer to keep them on the small side. That way when they flower the light can penetrate all the way to the lower buds.

LVsFINEST said:

Thanks for the quick response. Unfortunately, my growing conditions are less than ideal and my only real option is using a 72in x 36in x18 storage locker. So space is a big concern. The roughnecks fit great with room to spare even. And when the lease is up, I'm definitely going with the Aero/NFT. Its not all bad, I did think of a couple pluses however; I'm starting with seeds and this will allow me to easily exterminate all males plus I'll be able to grow strains with different flowering cycle lengths.

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It will work fine bro. The Veg system is actually great for flowering. The only main issue is plants support. You can take care of that easily though since the system is within a cabinet. A simple net would work great.

When I first starting designing my cloner and veg system I thought of a good idea to use just one container for veg and flower. Let me know what you think..

1) Take some 1/2" PVC pipe and make a table with legs. Kind of like the sprayer assembly.

2) Run stainless steel window screen over the table and fasten it to the PVC with stainless steel metal screws and washers. Make it tight like a drum.

3) Cut a small hole in the middle of the screen for the sprayer pipe and you're done.

4) Fill the res to just below the screen. The roots will lay on the screen and be sprayed from above.

This would work for you but once the roots start growing together you can't move them. If you did have a male you couldn't take it out without damaging the other plants.

That's why I use the dual container setup for my veg. Since the roots hang straight down you can pull them out when it's time to flower.

One important aspect you have to remember is flushing is required for tasty bud. You can't have plants at different stages in the same system because of this.

andyman said:

watch out on those or most all recycle timers not to plug multiple pumps into them using a splitter or power strip. they are not rated for many amps and if you try running more than one pump they will fail prematurely. thats why I made one timer with a contactor beside it. when the timer kicks on it sends power to the contactor and then from there to a outlet. I can plug about 5-6 pumps into this one timer, rather than just one.

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Is there anyway you could post schematics for your timer? I would love to build a solution like this.

What kind of timer module is that? What was your cost? Any part #'s?

Thanks bro!!! You fucking rock!

andyman said:

I was told that the pumps start out at like 8 amps and then drop down to 1 or 2 amps after they are started, but the guy who told me thought they were for a diff setup. so I am not real sure. Maybe stink knows how many you can plug into a timer without maxing them out. The dude said it would just lower the life of the timer.

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That makes total sense. Any motor will pull mega current when they first start. I bet that's what caused the premature failure of my timer last month.

I was looking at the running amps. If that was the case we could run 5 pumps easy. When you factor in start up amps the timer can only handle a couple of pumps each.

I like the idea of building my own that can handle all the pumps I have.

I know they make these relays for lights that the timer plugs into and the lights run off of the power from the relay circuit. That way one timer can control a whole grid of high power lights. I wonder if something like this might be the call for multiple pumps.

repvip said:

Finally got the first unit up and running! Transitioning from dirt and had to wait for room.

Wanted to thank StinkBud again, and share a few pics

It's clone city over here!

My flower units are skinnier and have the reservoir flipped long way so I can fit more units tighter together. Planning on vegging more plants for less time.. each flower unit has 20 sites and uses 6' posts with 5' pvc for the frame. I can easily fit 5 of these units in my flower room oh and I had to upgrade to the ECO633 pump because each unit has 22 sprayers and the ECO396 was barely making them drizzle.

Thanks Stink! Your flower room is incredible!

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Your system looks perfect bro! Great job!

It's nice to see people modify my design to fit there own needs. The most import thing I wanted to teach was the concept of my system.

Not everyone needs the same amount of medicine or have the same amount of space. But if you understand the concept of the desing you can create your own custom solution.

Keep us posted with your progress. And don't forget, I love seeing photos.

If any of you reading this thread have photos of your systems please post them. Every photo I see makes me feel like a proud father