Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

For the people looking to paint for light problems. Use truck spray on bed liner. It turns into a rubber coating. Its about $10 a can. I used it to spray the inside of my toilet tank to make it quite sweating. Its black and light wont go through it.

wow...spent the last couple days reading researching more....i got a soil op goin rite now...wasnt too impressed with my turnout last time...decided fuck it i am goin to use this set up...I printed out your explicit directions..ill check back in with you all in a couple days n get some pics up...cant wait to see this in action!

Doug the nug

StinkBud said:

They actually look pretty good to me. Sometimes the older leaves will die. Just pick them off.

In my grow book by Jorge Cervantes there is a picture that looks exactly like your plants. This is what is says." Leaf fringe standing up - Leaf fringes that point up mean the leaf is trying to dissipate as much moisture as possible, but is unable to. This could be caused by toxic salt buildup, lack of water or heat stress."

I think we can rule out lack of water. So it must be either your PPM is too high or your room is too hot.

Personally I think everything will be fine. As soon as you take them into the Aero/NFT system they will really take off.

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I'm gonna go with PPM too high. Room is def not too hot - it's in my half below ground basement which is about 60 degrees year around. There is no room built, they are just out in a very large open space. I'll have to see if lowering PPM helps. Thanks

Great thread I read the whole thread in one sitting. I am new here, and very glad I stumble upon this thread.

I want to start my grow in the next two week, but my resources are very limited.

Space and money is a big concern for me.
So I want to limit my budge to $500 and only build the Vegetative setup for all cycle.

I will need to get the seed and grow the mother plant in a pot with soil.
Then I can use the Vegetative setup for Cloning, Vegetative growth, and Flowering.

Can I be successful with this setup? Is it worth it or should I wait until I have more money?

Stinkbud can you give a rough estimate to how much it would cost in material to build the Vegetative setup?

I figure the Lights and Seed will cost $250 and another $250 for everything else.

outlawcustombikes said:

looking at Dragon Phoenixs' pics I had a great idea (maybe) lol. Seeing what looks like industrial trash bags wrapped around the resivoir made me think along the lines of a disposable resivoir liner that would also block light.

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i use a foam yoga mat which blocks light, but also blocks heat.
heat can be an issue if you have a big light over the water, foam layer stops that issue

CrazyIMA said:

Great thread I read the whole thread in one sitting. I am new here, and very glad I stumble upon this thread.

I want to start my grow in the next two week, but my resources are very limited.

Space and money is a big concern for me.
So I want to limit my budge to $500 and only build the Vegetative setup for all cycle.

I will need to get the seed and grow the mother plant in a pot with soil.
Then I can use the Vegetative setup for Cloning, Vegetative growth, and Flowering.

Can I be successful with this setup? Is it worth it or should I wait until I have more money?

Stinkbud can you give a rough estimate to how much it would cost in material to build the Vegetative setup?

I figure the Lights and Seed will cost $250 and another $250 for everything else.

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just my 2 cents : you will fuck up a few times. experience counts for alot. stinky has been at this for 15 years or so, expect to have a practice run or 2

DaveTheNewbie said:

just my 2 cents : you will fuck up a few times. experience counts for alot. stinky has been at this for 15 years or so, expect to have a practice run or 2

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Yea that's my plan to start out small and learn as I go.

andyman said:

For the people looking to paint for light problems. Use truck spray on bed liner. It turns into a rubber coating. Its about $10 a can. I used it to spray the inside of my toilet tank to make it quite sweating. Its black and light wont go through it.

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repped your for that, I should have thought of that sooner!! going to go get some this week!!

StinkBud said:

Just got the word. They will be publishing my entire article in High Times.

Be looking for it this next May!

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May 09? congrats Stinkbud virtual smoke down when the issue comes out, who is down? my laptop comes with a webcam on it, Skype is free!! PM for username!

CrazyIMA said:

Great thread I read the whole thread in one sitting. I am new here, and very glad I stumble upon this thread.

I want to start my grow in the next two week, but my resources are very limited.

Space and money is a big concern for me.
So I want to limit my budge to $500 and only build the Vegetative setup for all cycle.

I will need to get the seed and grow the mother plant in a pot with soil.
Then I can use the Vegetative setup for Cloning, Vegetative growth, and Flowering.

Can I be successful with this setup? Is it worth it or should I wait until I have more money?

Stinkbud can you give a rough estimate to how much it would cost in material to build the Vegetative setup?

I figure the Lights and Seed will cost $250 and another $250 for everything else.

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If I could only have one unit it would be the aero/nft system. It works unreal and will allow your plants to grow tall.

A good air cooled reflector costs about $120. Ballast will set you back around $200 and a good bulb is $100.

My Aero/NFT sytem costs about $80 to build. A timer is $100. Vent fan $100

So with seeds you are looking at closer to $1000 by the time you buy all your nutes and meters.

So you would be better buying it in steps. Get a good light first. Don't scrimp! You will have this light forever!

Build your cloner first. Then 3 weeks later build the veg unit. After another three weeks you can build the 1st flower unit and so on until you have a perpetual harvest.

Good luck Bro!

At Right Aid drugstore of all places. They are dark blue (almost black).

Now if I could just find a 14gal container...

outlawcustombikes said:

Wow,

looking at Dragon Phoenixs' pics I had a great idea (maybe) lol. Seeing what looks like industrial trash bags wrapped around the resivoir made me think along the lines of a disposable resivoir liner that would also block light.
Place the industrial trash bag inside your empty resivoir like you would a trash can. Fill the bag with your water, nutes, etc. Filling it with water would press the bag against the outer walls of the tote making it tight under the water. Install the pump/sprayers. Install the lid and then tape the bag to top edge of the lid. This would eliminate leaks also, allowing the water to return to the resivoir instead of dripping out. This will also make simple resivoir clean ups! Hope that makes sense. lol Now, I'm going to patent this before anyone else does!
~Outlaw~

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Man I tried to rep you again for this idea but it told me to spread it around, LOL. Very good idea!!

outlawcustombikes said:

Wow,

looking at Dragon Phoenixs' pics I had a great idea (maybe) lol. Seeing what looks like industrial trash bags wrapped around the resivoir made me think along the lines of a disposable resivoir liner that would also block light.
Place the industrial trash bag inside your empty resivoir like you would a trash can. Fill the bag with your water, nutes, etc. Filling it with water would press the bag against the outer walls of the tote making it tight under the water. Install the pump/sprayers. Install the lid and then tape the bag to top edge of the lid. This would eliminate leaks also, allowing the water to return to the resivoir instead of dripping out. This will also make simple resivoir clean ups! Hope that makes sense. lol Now, I'm going to patent this before anyone else does!
~Outlaw~

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What a fucking great idea! I don't even think you need to tape it because the lid will hold it in place. No more scrubbing the inside of the containers every three weeks! Just pop in a new bag.

You're a fuckin' genius!

Next res change I'm doing this bro....

I modified the flower unit, instead of the pvc pipe running up and using the pvc for plant support i capped it. Then i drilled small holes in the cap and stuck in those narrow bamboo poles, i ran two heighths for support and used electrical tape to hold them together. This way i think more light gets to the buds instead of a 3/4 inch pipe blocking out light.

Hey stink, im getting ready to go down to the hydro store and buy my hood, bulb and ballast. do you have any recomendation? 600 watt. I want the best, im gonna have it a long time, but dont wanna spend a fortune. Thers so many to choose from.

StinkBud said:

If I could only have one unit it would be the aero/nft system. It works unreal and will allow your plants to grow tall.

A good air cooled reflector costs about $120. Ballast will set you back around $200 and a good bulb is $100.

My Aero/NFT sytem costs about $80 to build. A timer is $100. Vent fan $100

So with seeds you are looking at closer to $1000 by the time you buy all your nutes and meters.

So you would be better buying it in steps. Get a good light first. Don't scrimp! You will have this light forever!

Build your cloner first. Then 3 weeks later build the veg unit. After another three weeks you can build the 1st flower unit and so on until you have a perpetual harvest.

Good luck Bro!

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Wow I didn't know light was that expensive. I was planning on using
fluorescent light for the cloning/vegetative cycle which is cheap, and HPS for flowering.

I only have my closet which is 5' by 2' so I can either use it for the flowering room or split it for both flowering and vegetative. When you say aero/nft system do you mean the flowering setup?

I am in college right now but in a week I will have two weeks off for break, which I can just work more to come up with the extra money.

So Stink what is my best option? Right now I just want to do everything simple and cheap because it is my first grow, and I am using this as a learning experience.

Can I use the flowering setup from start to finish?

You really inspired me. The word Aeroponic is scary especially for someone starting out, but I feel confident that I can be successful after reading your guide.

Hey Crazy, here's my toughts on it from the sounds of your set up. Stink, let me know what you think, and please correct me if I'm wrong.

Maybe crazy you could split your closet. Build the veg unit on one side,and put it under your floros. The veg unit should be fairly inexpensive to build, and it will be able to take you several atleast 6 weeks into the grow, from seed or clone.

Then in the 6 weeks same some cash and build one of the small 6 site aero/nft (flower systems) You put this on the other side of your closet, and transfer the plants over when you take clones. You could probably easily modify the systems dimensions just a bit so that the res sat under the trays, in order to save space.

I don't know what do you think about that stink? Raising the trays up a bit, and positioning the res undernieth them. Change the plumbing just a bit, but it could make the system a bit more closet friendly, or just floor space friendly in general. Just a thought.

DIRTHAWKER said:

I modified the flower unit, instead of the pvc pipe running up and using the pvc for plant support i capped it. Then i drilled small holes in the cap and stuck in those narrow bamboo poles, i ran two heighths for support and used electrical tape to hold them together. This way i think more light gets to the buds instead of a 3/4 inch pipe blocking out light.

Hey stink, im getting ready to go down to the hydro store and buy my hood, bulb and ballast. do you have any recomendation? 600 watt. I want the best, im gonna have it a long time, but dont wanna spend a fortune. Thers so many to choose from.

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I would try to find a hood with the glass on a hindge. That way it is easy to change the bulb and clean it.

Ballasts are pretty much all the same. They are all good as long as you don't get the bottom of the line. The new electronic ballasts are the best but they cost an arm and a leg!

CrazyIMA said:

Wow I didn't know light was that expensive. I was planning on using
fluorescent light for the cloning/vegetative cycle which is cheap, and HPS for flowering.

I only have my closet which is 5' by 2' so I can either use it for the flowering room or split it for both flowering and vegetative. When you say aero/nft system do you mean the flowering setup?

I am in college right now but in a week I will have two weeks off for break, which I can just work more to come up with the extra money.

So Stink what is my best option? Right now I just want to do everything simple and cheap because it is my first grow, and I am using this as a learning experience.

Can I use the flowering setup from start to finish?

You really inspired me. The word Aeroponic is scary especially for someone starting out, but I feel confident that I can be successful after reading your guide.

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Get yourself 3 or 4 cheap shop lights at wally's($7) and some cool white tubes. You can run the cloner and veg unit under these just fine. Build the cloner first and after you have roots build the veg unit. They each cost about $40 to make.

That right there will take care of you for the next 6-8 weeks. Then when you get some money buy your HPS and build a small flower system.

My Aeroponic system is actually a lot easier to grow with than soil.

Keep following my instructions and this is what you are going to end up with...

I just got a hard-on. kiss-ass