Saladsmokin
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yup thats wat that is. o well.
Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!
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Whew - things have been hectic... As many of you have learned before: Don't try to build your zone while growing in it at the same time! I've been one step behind my plants all the way!
The wife and I had to do major surgery to cut the second batch out of the veg unit! 24 hours later and things seem OK. As I left them in the veg so long, the dominant plants took light from the smaller ones... I ended up with some extreme size diffs - from 3 inches to 2 feet! ha ha.
I've given these plants hell - and they are still doing well. The wilted pictures were taken 3.14.2009 - after leaving the pump off overnight... Amazing what a couple weeks will do! I have been trying to slow down growth by running my lights at half power (300 watts) but they are still growing like weeds... I had to put the second tier of net trellis on the first batch today as several have passed the 2 foot mark... On that note, the Botanicare HortiTrellis is working well!
I think I will nail the 3rd batch - as the room will be done and my work schedule is slowing down.
I will keep you guys posted as the fun starts with the light flip tomorrow... As I don't have anything in the flower room now (just finishing the room), I was considering giving them 36 hours of darkness to really send them the flower signal... I have heard about this but never tried it... anybody? I notice the hot new company Agricultural Organics from Austrailia (the bright yellow bottles - they make Ooze, a popular additive). I notice their week 1 additive instructs users to use 36 hours of darkness to start flowering... According to several sources, this speeds up flowering by a couple days to a week... Anybody have hands on experience with this? I don't see how it could hurt. I 've seen others use 13 hour dark cycle for first week to do the same thing... any thoghts?
Thanks again, Stink and the rest of the Buds.
The wife and I had to do major surgery to cut the second batch out of the veg unit! 24 hours later and things seem OK. As I left them in the veg so long, the dominant plants took light from the smaller ones... I ended up with some extreme size diffs - from 3 inches to 2 feet! ha ha.
I've given these plants hell - and they are still doing well. The wilted pictures were taken 3.14.2009 - after leaving the pump off overnight... Amazing what a couple weeks will do! I have been trying to slow down growth by running my lights at half power (300 watts) but they are still growing like weeds... I had to put the second tier of net trellis on the first batch today as several have passed the 2 foot mark... On that note, the Botanicare HortiTrellis is working well!
I think I will nail the 3rd batch - as the room will be done and my work schedule is slowing down.
I will keep you guys posted as the fun starts with the light flip tomorrow... As I don't have anything in the flower room now (just finishing the room), I was considering giving them 36 hours of darkness to really send them the flower signal... I have heard about this but never tried it... anybody? I notice the hot new company Agricultural Organics from Austrailia (the bright yellow bottles - they make Ooze, a popular additive). I notice their week 1 additive instructs users to use 36 hours of darkness to start flowering... According to several sources, this speeds up flowering by a couple days to a week... Anybody have hands on experience with this? I don't see how it could hurt. I 've seen others use 13 hour dark cycle for first week to do the same thing... any thoghts?
Thanks again, Stink and the rest of the Buds.
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Thanks Mr Stinkbud, awesome info you have open sourced here!4 lights are the only way to go. My outside plants just don't receive enough light because the other plants block all the light.
I'm actually thinking about scaling down some. My last harvest was so big I don't know what to do with all the bud.
My patients need only so much medicine and I'm trying to smoke the rest but I just can't do it.
When I first started I was harvesting 12oz. That jumped to 16oz. after I added CO2. My last harvest was 27oz and the next one will be even bigger! WTF!
I can only have so many patients by state law and both me and my wifeare maxed out right now. Each patient of mine uses about 2oz a month or less. Needless to say the bud is starting to build up.
Anyone want some free bud?
I'm from Australia and would love to replicate your system, but there are a couple of issues.
~ Botanicare product line is not available and shipping cost from USA is more that the product price itself - Would it be possible for you to quote the chemical analysis for each of the products, so a local non chemical alternative could be sourced and suitable dosage calculated to match your recipes?
~ We are on metric measurements so I guess we would source components as close as possible to your specs, just as long as it all fits together an into the tubs?
Is version 1.1 the latest revision of your guide? If not, could you please advise which page of this (now very long) thread it resides on?
Thanks for your contribution to the gardening community,
Chris
andyman
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man I feal dumb now. I thought it was some new slang I didnt know yet. Maybe some of his keyboards buttons stick. I had a keyboard that did that once. Or when I type to fast
Senator
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I will let some of the more experienced Stinkbuddies answer your other questions, however, I got this one.
The full plans are all together on page 75 of the thread. This is speculation but I would think the future revisions will come after (or right around) the release of the High Times article in May.
DIRTHAWKER
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Looking superb LION!!! I wish i would have made my room bigger from the beginning, i cant supply my patients and club fast enough! This Sour diesel is growing sooooo tall.. its grown above the lights now in 3 weeks from 1 ft tall. I dont know if i should top them or tie them down. I started a different co2 schedule i pump for 15 minutes every hour and a half at 7cfh.
its been about 5 days....still not empty..LOL
its been about 5 days....still not empty..LOL
StinkBud
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What happens is the hormone levels build up faster causing the plant to flower sooner.
You can do it this time because this is your first flowering batch but as soon as you have three systems going I would just leave the lights on 12/12.
StinkBud
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All the info about the products are here.
Is version 1.1 the latest revision of your guide? If not, could you please advise which page of this (now very long) thread it resides on?[/quote]
Yes 1.1 is the latest version. I'm actually developing my 6-hole article now (Stinkbud Jr.) and then baby Stinkbud after that.
Then come the revisions....
StinkBud
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At this point I would tie them down so you don't loose the top bud. I tried both ways and bending works best.
Saladsmokin
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haha.. its all good i jus like to type fast. My plants have been in flower for a week they grown alot so far. YAY.. haha. nd im bout to put my next 10 more in the second unit. I cant wait til im producin weiht for my dispensary that me and my friend are going to open in a month or less. Rite now im part of a collective i started. I dnt wana say the name of the biz cause i dont want random ppl calling me up from my website. Thanks STINK BUDman I feal dumb now. I thought it was some new slang I didnt know yet. Maybe some of his keyboards buttons stick. I had a keyboard that did that once. Or when I type to fast
StinkBud
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You can use anything for cloning but I recommend fluorescent lights. Even cheap $7 shop lights work great.
I'm using a small 2-bulb 24" HO light for my clones.
When it comes to clones you want just enough light to keep them alive so they can produce roots.
Too much light causes the clones to transpire water quicker than the stem can supply it and the leaves will dry out and die.
Save the big lights for veg and flower.
DIRTHAWKER
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Thanks Stink, I can always count on you!!!!
does anyone know about how long sour diesel takes to finish?
StinkBud
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You moved them to 3"? Jeez, how close where they? I would bet that's your problem...
That's way too close. Your clones won't stretch with fls so don't worry about the light distance. You don't want too much light on clones. If you have too much light the large leaves will dry out and die.
Basically what happens is the stem can't supply enough water to the leaves fast enough and the cells die.
Don't look at the burned leaves anymore. They are gone and will never come back. You need to watch the new growth.
The new growth looks fine bro! Just be patient and your plants will come back strong. Dont' forget to raise your lights a little.
BIGTIMEROOFERR
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hey lion
you can turn the light on 24/7 for your veggies this wiil slow the growth way down but takes longer in the flower room
hope this helps
thecholochef
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from all the research ive done , it seems to be and 11 week finisher. again this is just research ive done, and im usually high when im doin it. so i may be wrong but i dont think i am. hope it helps. or maybe confuses u more? eh ? 
The same tank?!!! ...endless summer!
I will be keeping an eye on how you handle your SourD - as I will be in the same boat with "too tall" plants!
Same old problem on the Stink thread - plants growing too much - ha ha!
Cool - got ya on the 24/7 veg lighting - they are on 24 hour light program now (600watt lights on dimmable ballast set to 50% or 300 watts)... but at 6AM tomorrow the lights will go off - and I was considering leaving the lights off for 36 hours before going to 12/12. Any thoughts? Moving forward this will not be an option as I will have other units already under 12/12 light. So this is my chance to go for it...
Thanks, Stink!
dagobaker
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when people say expect from 30 to 40% increase when u hit the 1500 ppm of co2 am i expecting more stretch.......more width.......and more weight?
if i have 50% stretch with no co2 what can i expect with co2?
ordering a co2 generator and trying to get an idea what to expect
if i have 50% stretch with no co2 what can i expect with co2?
ordering a co2 generator and trying to get an idea what to expect
StinkBud
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You get less stretch with CO2 but the plants grow faster and bigger so they still end up taller than without CO2.
The stems end up a lot thicker and the buds are very dense. Even the fan leaves end up huge.
It's not just the CO2 that does this. The CO2 allows you to run your room at 85 degrees no problem. At that temp the plants metabolism increases and the plants grow faster.