Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

thanks master stink
you always have the answer
you the man

who would have thought 420 pages??? I agree, everybody spark it up to a fabulous 420 pages of STINK WISDOM!!!!!

I pre-set the white balance according to the instructions in the manual. I think these look more like it.
What do you think Stink? Thanks for the encouragement. You can expect to see better pics from me in the future!
These are for you StinkBud!

BTW does the strain in the first pic look familiar? It is the one that smells like Juicy Fruit gum and was really good but finding out the name is not an option. I call it Happy Daze! I hope to cross it with BB eventually. How long do you have to wait to pop a seed after it is harvested or what should be done to it first? Thanks master!

FredSavage said:

i started a few from seeds, i remember someone saying to pop the seeds, then rapid root them until the sprout is about 2 inches tall, then remove them from the rapid rooter and transfer them into the cloner. am i correct??

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That's the way I do it. I also put them right into the veg unit after I take them out of the Rapid Rooter plug.

hey stink I'm just an old dirt farmer but my buddy and i have read your whole thread and have a few questions 1 can we use the 3.75 neopreme plugs and net pots. It seem to us that the plugs from the ezcloner would be to small to run from clone to flower. Can you do that. Or our the larger plugs better I work at one of the local grow stores and have actcess to everything you've talk about. Im running Ak 47 nycd pineapple and sage. please let me know about the plug size

saw the info in the back of hightimes for next months issue........pound every three weeks i just got about stinks article..........
so ill be reading it in about a month i guess

andyman said:

page 420 lets all burn one

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Wait does more than one count? Hurry and get to 421 if not. I may have already burned two.

Try your hand at one of these... can save you a few hundred bucks. Not sure how good it would be at controlling and not overshooting/undershooting, but supposedly you can wire it up to your network and control it with software.

stink bud,
you got it going on son. 1pound every 3 weeks. keep up the good work. you should make a grow dvd. i would buy it. and really not alot of work. well it is not work to me. because i love to do it. i have 11 babies of my own. they are 9 weeks old. been flowering for a weeks now. i think it is a little early to tell the sex. it is my first grow. can use all the advice i can get.
keeep on growing
joe dirt

Alright, so I have had the worst past year or two experience trying to clone. It is hot where I live and I have been having problems with rot/algae/slime and temps.

I have a few plants growing fine in 5gal buckets with air stones (no rot, temp is pretty warm, above 75deg). But every attempt at cloning has failed.

I have tried bubble, jar of water, aero, etc and several attempts of each. Out of hundreds of clones, I have gotten about 10 to pop roots, and about 5 of those to live into veg.

I have corrected some problems that I plan on following through with on my next attempt. Such as very low lightning (I used to have my light a little close and I think it used up the stored energy in the leaves yellowed and died off killing the clone before roots), plain water PH adjusted (I used to try using nutes at low levels, my tap water is ~170ppm 7.8ph), and a little h2o2 in my res this time.

I bought the roughneck (black lid with gray bottom, i did hold a light to both the top and bottom and it does shine through, I don't know if this will be a problem?), a small pump (~285gph), and got it running. I don't have the correct timer (I plan on ordering it with some of the pumps you use soon). It has worked perfect so far, no leaks (Used to have that problem). I am using 15mins on/15mins off with a cheap timer currently, and with the 285gph pump, i am getting water temps of 85deg when the pump turns off. I know running for 1 min on/4-5 off will help temps some, but I still expect them to be around 80, especially if I use the larger pump like you.

I have tried everything hydro/aero to cloning and have failed. I really hope this time it works. I am trying to follow as closely to you as possible. I just really don't want to get that slime buildup again (I think it chokes off the roots and the plant dies), it sucks and it sucks to clean. The best method I used was a aero cloner I made, but I was using a huge water pump (only one i had) and it was running 24/7 and had the water temp close to 87-90deg (this was in the hot time of summer too), some did get roots, but the slime, etc choked them. This rubbermaid setup is a whole lot better design (it is perfect for not leaking, the way the lip goes down into the container, not like the other two I tried that were cheap and leaked), I am using the black 3/4"pvc pipe insulation to hold my cuttlings in the lid for now (i might order some net pots and pucks with the timer). So things are good, just need the correct timer. I think the 15/15 min on/off will work a lot better than running it 24/7.

Any advice? What are your water temps after the pump turns off? I was planning on trying 1 cap of h2o2 per gallon in my cloner this go, maybe even a little less. I am hoping it will help keep out some of the slime/funk. I will also change the cloner water after a few days/week with fresh ph adjusted water and some more h2o2.

Do you recommend putting the cloner in the flower room (600hps 12/12) or veg (floros, 20/4 or 18/6)?

Anything else would be great. You don't know how discouraging it is, batch after batch, of no result. I am determined to get things right. I usually never fail in life, and I am determined to get close to 100% with this cloner this attempt. I know I need to get the correct timer, and I am going to order that soon, it is next on my list. I know I need to get a chiller, I also have to get a blower. Stuff adds up quickly and so I am trying one step at a time.

Do you think the 15min on/15min off timer will be ok with 85deg water temps with some h2o2? Should I wait on the other timer? You think it would lower the water at least 5 deg? What would you do? I really need to take cuts soon, I am really set back. I was going to take about 10 and stick them in with the current setup and see what happens. It will take about a week to get the correct timer if that even solves all my problems.

Also, one last question. The container even though the lid is black, still let some light through when I held a flashlight close to it, same with the bottom. Not direct light, but more of that glow. Is this not a problem? The lid doesn't allow much, but the bottom more.

Thanks for any help, sorry for such a long post and so many questions. You have no idea how much a relief it will be to actually clone a plant.

I have read this entire thread and parts of it several times and really admire your skills and knowledge. You have been a great help to many of people, and more than you realize.

Those of you using this system know that its best to have plants roughly the same size when they go into flower.. otherwise they get dwarfed and never amount to much..

I have my next batch ready to go into flower, but 2 out of the bunch are only about half the size...i was thinking of just putting those 2 into flower alone for maybe 2-3 days, so they can stretch a bit..all the while his classmates in veg can also be switched to 12 and 12 but remain in the veg closet.

what do ya think stink? or anyone.

AverageJohnDoe said:

Do you think the 15min on/15min off timer will be ok with 85deg water temps with some h2o2? Should I wait on the other timer? You think it would lower the water at least 5 deg?

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You really need the timer bro. When the pump runs for 15 minutes instead of 1 the water will heat up on you.

Buy some Hygrozyme to control the funk.

Also, one last question. The container even though the lid is black, still let some light through when I held a flashlight close to it, same with the bottom. Not direct light, but more of that glow. Is this not a problem? The lid doesn't allow much, but the bottom more.

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If you can only find a gray bottom then use one of those black contractor's trash bag as a liner. That will block out any light.

Don't worry about the black lid.

Thanks for any help, sorry for such a long post and so many questions. You have no idea how much a relief it will be to actually clone a plant

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If you follow my directions exactly then soon you will have clones coming out your ass!

You can do it bro! Don't give up!

DIRTHAWKER said:

Those of you using this system know that its best to have plants roughly the same size when they go into flower.. otherwise they get dwarfed and never amount to much..

I have my next batch ready to go into flower, but 2 out of the bunch are only about half the size...i was thinking of just putting those 2 into flower alone for maybe 2-3 days, so they can stretch a bit..all the while his classmates in veg can also be switched to 12 and 12 but remain in the veg closet.

what do ya think stink? or anyone.

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I think it will work great! I've had the same problem many times. As soon as the small plants get shaded by the big ones they never catch up.

I have a plant in flower now that was shaded by her sisters so bad she looks like a clone with buds!

You should try it and let me know how it works.

DoubleBubble said:

I pre-set the white balance according to the instructions in the manual. I think these look more like it.
What do you think Stink? Thanks for the encouragement. You can expect to see better pics from me in the future!
These are for you StinkBud!

BTW does the strain in the first pic look familiar? It is the one that smells like Juicy Fruit gum and was really good but finding out the name is not an option. I call it Happy Daze! I hope to cross it with BB eventually. How long do you have to wait to pop a seed after it is harvested or what should be done to it first? Thanks master!

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Those pics look nice. Your white balance is still off though. Not that it matters!

Try taking photo at night with the lights off and use your flash. You can't go wrong that way.

A ripe seed can be started anytime. It's actually finishes while it's still on the plant.

Thanks for the fast reply.

Yeah, I am going to get the timer very soon. I might as well wait on it. With the hygrozyme, I wouldn't need the h2o2? It is basically a plant grade cleaner for the funk? I purchased some Dutch Masters Zone because I was recommended some of it a while back. Should I put a little of it in my cloner instead of the h2o2? Is it similar to Hygrozyme?

Basically one of the large heavy duty trash bags? Or is it more of the polytarp material? Seems like a thick trash bag would let some light through also since the lid does. I see you use blue and the gray bottoms, are you using black bags? I can't see them on your pictures. Seem like they also make cleaning easier. You just put it in the rubbermaid, then put the pump in, and pull the bag over the edges of the container and close the lid on top? It is still leakproof?

Do you recommend putting the cloner in the flower room (600hps 12/12) or veg (floros, 20/4 or 18/6)? and if you would explain please.

Thanks again.

Thanks stink. I will tell ya how it goes.

AJ, clones should be under 24/7 light.. contractor bags will work.

sweet dude! i will definately try this and see how it works.. never anything wrong with saving a few bucks.. as we all know this system isnt cheap to setup, every penny counts! thanks hawk!

repvip said:

Try your hand at one of these... can save you a few hundred bucks. Not sure how good it would be at controlling and not overshooting/undershooting, but supposedly you can wire it up to your network and control it with software.

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thank you master stink! off to go build the veg unit.. didnt think id need it for atleast another 2 weeks... guess i should be 5 steps ahead of the plants instead of waiting til the last minute.. pics comin soon!

StinkBud said:

That's the way I do it. I also put them right into the veg unit after I take them out of the Rapid Rooter plug.

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I have been diligently reading this thread from page one. I'm now on page 225 and have made and followed Stinkbuds system.
Plants have been in Veg unit for 3 weeks and my light for Flower unit arrives in a few days. Two days ago I noticed the PPM for my reservoir was a lowly 900PPM. I went ahead and upped the total to around 1800PPM. Next day my plants looked like this :

I was presuming the wilting was caused because of a sudden change in PPM level. I had checked pump and sprayers and all fine there so I went and diluted the reservoir by taking out water and replacing it with no added PPM water to bring the total PPM in the res down to 500PPM.
I then left this over another night running at 4min on 1min off. I woke this morning hoping to see the plants back to normal but once again they have wilted worse.

Do I have a chance to save them or is my whole veg chamber doomed. From what is causing this I don't know. I hope someone here can enlighten me.

Thanks all.