Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

DIRTHAWKER said:

You probably already answered this but, how do you check the water and add nutes etc in the clone and veg units when you have roots coming down etc... isnt it bad for the nutes to be exposed to light? I imagine you could just have another container to set the lid on while doing maintainance?

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I always keep a spare container around to put the clone and veg tops on during maintenence. I have also filled the bathtub with water and just floated the lid in the water.

Don't worry about light. It take a long time for algae to grow.

I don't check the cloner. It's just water and clonex. Once I adjust the PH the first time I don't touch it for 3 weeks.

The veg unit has a valve. I run the pump and open the valve with a cup under it. I use that water to test PPM and PH.

I don't test the veg unit very often because the plants don't use much nutes. I just top off the water and check it once a week.

tintala said:

so are you using the same as the diagram also? without the elbows , just straight pvc with caps at the ends? In the diagram you show to use elbows , but your actual pic differs, do you have pics of the actual plumbing in the cloner itself?

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The pics are from some of my older designs. My latest designs use the elbows and pipes for support legs.

I actually have a valve on my veg unit instead of one of the legs. The pipe is longer and goes out the container so I can drain it easy.

I'll be posting a build tutorial this weekend complete with dimensions, plans, parts and tool lists.

Stay tuned!

DIRTHAWKER said:

Ive heard that if you go 24/7 from clone to the flower room they take longer to start to flower. and that they need 6 hours of darkness in veg or they could die.

wheres stink?????

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Just got back into town.

Don't sweat the time thing. It's really not that big of a deal.

If you want to run 24/7 your plants will grow bigger but may take a few more days for them to start to flower. Which means that you may harvest 4 days later, not a big deal.

When I ran my clone and veg together back in my soil days I ran 24/7 with no ill effects.

9 weeks is best. But if it ends up being 9 weeks and 3 days you will never even notice it.

genfranco said:

dude i just saw your pic of the cab witht he aero cloners in them...thats you right?... you know stink is gonna be pissed your jacking his thread...lol..

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LOL! I'm actually stoked for him!

You watch, Dirth is going to kick ass! He's following my directions perfect and doing a great job.

If anything I like his HO Fl setup better than my 250W MH. That Fl will keep his veg plants nice and short.

His success is my success!

Thanks man,,, i hope i get this right. glad your back stinkbud.. i have a question. So my clones actually came in row plugs not soil,, (its a sponge thing) supposed to be really good. I just wondered that beacuse they are in this sponge type of thing, will they get water logged on the 1 on 5 off cycle?
beacuse the roots are not free hanging?

Hey, i've been looking through all your pictuers and I noticed something. A lot of your roots are black or brownish, which is not good. Healthy roots are White. COuld this be from too much oxygen or some other factor? I could be completely wrong, but i thought I should bring it up.

PS beautiful system. I really like it.

Seriously bro if you need a hand just ask, Im pretty good with the whole FAQ thing. Also you should put this together in a PDF, throw up a site or put it on one(or send it to seemorebuds) and charge $5.00 or more for it....people will buy it, I will!

StinkBud said:

I have a list of all the materials to go with the plans. I also have a list (and photos) of all the tools.

I even have most of the photos done. And check out the 3D illustration I did of my Aero/NFT system.

All I need is time. I've been really busy with work (I have my own business).

I had no idea the response this thread would generate. I wasn't even sure anyone would read it!

I'm stoked to be helping so many others.

I can finish and post the tutorials this next weekend so stay tuned.

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i'm excited and cant wait for them to be done

I got a ? about the pumps.. the thing that scares me is i'll get into a grow, everything will be going good, and bam.. a pump goes out.
I work alot and am not here all the time to check on this. Is this a big prob or am I just being paranoid? I would hate to get 2 months into a grow and loose a crop due to pump failure. With my soil grow going atm, dryin out it my least worry.

helmoid said:

Hey, i've been looking through all your pictuers and I noticed something. A lot of your roots are black or brownish, which is not good. Healthy roots are White. COuld this be from too much oxygen or some other factor? I could be completely wrong, but i thought I should bring it up.PS beautiful system. I really like it.

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Brown roots are normally bad. It usually means root rot.

In my case the roots are brown because of the organic nutrient formula I'm using.

Liquid Karma has Humic Acid in it. It looks completely black. It dyes all the roots brown.

Liquid Karma is magical stuff though. It's like steroids for your plants!

Good catch bro! I should of mentioned something before, Thanks!

DIRTHAWKER said:

Thanks man,,, i hope i get this right. glad your back stinkbud.. i have a question. So my clones actually came in row plugs not soil,, (its a sponge thing) supposed to be really good. I just wondered that beacuse they are in this sponge type of thing, will they get water logged on the 1 on 5 off cycle?
beacuse the roots are not free hanging?

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I've used Rapid Rooter plugs before and they worked fine. It seam like the plugs might actually work better than RR plugs for hydro

Will they fit inside the netpot?

I guess it's just a hassle this time. Within 3 weeks you will be able to take clones from here on out.

What strains did you end up getting?

Yea they fit in the net pots i have to kinda squish the collars down on top of them just a littel bit , but think its fine.

Well i ended up with ak47, cheese, tangerine kush and red grape for now. By the time i had everything ready to go, they were out of trainwreck, and GDP so i will have to wait a week or two to get those .

peaceb2usall said:

Seriously bro if you need a hand just ask, Im pretty good with the whole FAQ thing. Also you should put this together in a PDF, throw up a site or put it on one(or send it to seemorebuds) and charge $5.00 or more for it....people will buy it, I will!

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I'm charging a lot more than 5 bucks!

If you agree to use my system you must also agree to help someone else and pass on the love.

You must also give your mother a hug and tell her you love her.

I can only help so many patients myself. Think about how many people I can help with this thread.

DIRTHAWKER said:

Yea they fit in the net pots i have to kinda squish the collars down on top of them just a littel bit , but think its fine.

Well i ended up with ak47, cheese, tangerine kush and red grape for now. By the time i had everything ready to go, they were out of trainwreck, and GDP so i will have to wait a week or two to get those .

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Red Grape? Sounds interesting.

AK47 is one of the best strains in the world as far as high and taste. It also hits very smooth. All of the strains from Serious Seeds are huge producers.

You are going to love Cheese! Those heavy Indicas kick my ass though. Puts me down like a bad dog. Same thing with the Kush strains.

That's why I prefer AK47, Bubblegum and Purple Silver so much. They grow like an Indica but smoke like a Sativa.

Any chance you can find some Blueberry too? It's not a big producer but more than worth it.

What's cool about my system is you can run a shit load of different strains. Every pot can be a different strain!

I'm up to ten strains now (with a couple of experiments going on too).

SVINIAR said:

I got a ? about the pumps.. the thing that scares me is i'll get into a grow, everything will be going good, and bam.. a pump goes out.
I work alot and am not here all the time to check on this. Is this a big prob or am I just being paranoid? I would hate to get 2 months into a grow and loose a crop due to pump failure. With my soil grow going atm, dryin out it my least worry.

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This is a real world concern! Shit happens, things break. What if it happens on Sunday and the store is closed?

That's one of the main reasons I run the same pump for all my systems. I always have a new spare pump handy just in case.

A spare $25 pump can save a lot of money in the long run.

Also, the pumps will start making a funky noise before they go out. It's the sound of the bearings going out. You have a few weeks to fix it before it completely quits.

As soon as I start hearing anything funky I just chuck the old pump and put in a new one. Cheap insurance!

I'm going to start replacing my pumps once a year along with my bulbs. I'll keep a couple of the old one around just in case.

Another issue is power. You can't loose power for very long before your plants wilt. That's why you need to have a UPS just in case.

stinkbud , have you ever cloned ISS in your ez cloner? im in the process of building one now and am just wondering how long ISS will take in your ez cloner setup ( im getting 5 ISS clones and 5 sourdiesel clones very soon!) , im reading that ISS has no veg time in sog, do you know of this to be true?

offgridgrower said:

stinkbud , have you ever cloned ISS in your ez cloner? im in the process of building one now and am just wondering how long ISS will take in your ez cloner setup ( im getting 5 ISS clones and 5 sourdiesel clones very soon!) , im reading that ISS has no veg time in sog, do you know of this to be true?

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Clones take anywhere from 4 days to 14 depending on where you take the cuttings from and the strain.

The small cuttings near the base will root the fastest and outgrow large woody cuttings from the top of the plant.

I take cuttings from clone to flower all the time. I took a Snowbud cutting right out of the cloner last time and it's the biggest plant in the system now.

You still need a source of clones though. You can run couple of mothers or take your cuttings from the plants in veg like I do.

All strains grow fast as hell in Aero but some strains freak out! They grow so fast it's bizzare! Wait to you see what I mean.

When the plants first go into flower they shoot up like Jack's beanstalk. I'll wake up in the morning and look at my room and just say "WTF". Two inches growth overnight is not uncommon! (I run my lights at night)

StinkBud said:

I'm charging a lot more than 5 bucks!

If you agree to use my system you must also agree to help someone else and pass on the love.

You must also give your mother a hug and tell her you love her.

I can only help so many patients myself. Think about how many people I can help with this thread.

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that is exactly how i look at all of this!

I can't wait for the pdf, it will be like our own little george cervantes of aero growing!!!

StinkBud said:

In the Navy we had a saying...
Shit in, Shit out.

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We had a saying in the Navy too; never again volunteer yourself...

I think I remember some scuttlebutt about the base gedunk being run by a bunch of skate FNG's but they were all TAD from CAG so we kept sending them orders for 50 feet of chow line and grommet wrenches.