Harry Reid: Ultra flip flopper

UncleBuck said:

wow, 3 posts in a row. enjoy my mercy post.

ok, i'll add something substantive. payback is a bitch, eh? that's what the GOP gets for doing the same obstructionist bullshit. see how stupid of a game that is? wouldn't it be better to just be a big boy and cooperate and compromise?

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But "payback" puts us all in the same category. If you are for something then be for it even if your oponent is for it. If you are against something then be against it even if your opponent is against it as well - it isn't so hard really, and the end result is that occasionaly things get done in congress.

Cohaagen said:

Cutting spending reduces growth and increases unemployment. This causes reduced revenues which increases the deficit causing more cuts, which long term causes further problems servicing debt(causing further cuts).

Lack of demand is driving the bad economy. I fail to see how reducing demand improves our situation.

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What are you like 11 AND retarded?

How does cutting wasteful and unnecessary spending reduce demand? The revenue generating side is just fine, it's the Gov that cant fucking live within its budget and demands more in taxation (reducing demand) that fucks up an economy.

Sometimes I wonder how people like you survive on a day to day basis swallowing the total bullshit economics of the current status quo... it's just their justification for "tax and spend".

If America ended all foreign "combat operations" I bet you could balance the budget and cut taxes, thus spurring demand. That's just ONE item of wasteful spending that can be cut from many.

lifegoesonbrah said:

He is either a partisan douchebag or does what bank lobbyist tell him. Ill go with both. He ran his whole career on the platform of auditing the Fed from the eighties to 2010, now he plans on blocking the bill.

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What a dick wad.

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Harry Reid is a true liberal pos... He should retire or just quit.

rollinbud said:

Harry Reid is a true liberal pos... He should retire or just quit.

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As should most of the Republicans in the House.

Reid was on his way out last election, even the dems were tired of him.

Unfortunately, people were still stinging from the Bushney years and in a complete knee jerk reaction without investigation they nominated Engle to run against him based on the anti-status quo sentiment. It was too hard to cover her ineptitude for that long to get her elected. If the election had been a month earlier he would have been gone.

Hopefully the Koch brothers have a better vetting process next time.

Yes, we see how well voting out of that "anti-status Quo" menality works.

canndo said:

But "payback" puts us all in the same category. If you are for something then be for it even if your oponent is for it. If you are against something then be against it even if your opponent is against it as well - it isn't so hard really, and the end result is that occasionaly things get done in congress.

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that's what i would prefer, maybe the GOP douchebags that vote against the very legislation the came up with should take the hint.

canndo said:

Yes, we see how well voting out of that "anti-status Quo" menality works.

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it was a rabid sentiment littered with good intentions that didn't always lead to the best results.

Sort of like most liberal policies

and to the austerity hungry GOP brainiacs, how's all that austerity working out across europe?

even your savior romney says austerity is too contractionary during a time like this. maybe you guys should take a hint.

ginwilly said:

it was a rabid sentiment littered with good intentions that didn't always lead to the best results.

Sort of like most liberal policies

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engle, buck, miller, o'donnell...you kochsuckers are so dumb to have nominated extremist morons like that.

but good job on replacing the only senator to vote against the patriot act with a corporate welfare sucking hypocrite.

UncleBuck said:

that's what i would prefer, maybe the GOP douchebags that vote against the very legislation the came up with should take the hint.

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this really is case dependent. There was some awful GOP leadership for awhile, like it's the dems turn now. Just because it was a GOP idea at one time doesn't mean the present members should support it.

I'm sure you thought some of those ideas were awful when they were proposed too. If so you should be applauding their opposition to it now too shouldn't you?

Or are you one of those guys that just look at whose team came up with it before deciding if it's good or evil?

Stop playing their game, the elections are rigged anywaysw with their blackbox electronic voting. if we had a lower than 20% turnout to vote the government would be declared ilegitimate and we could insist on real campaign finance reform and the popular vote and other things to restore control to the people and not corporations. PS corporations are not people goshdammit!

ginwilly said:

it was a rabid sentiment littered with good intentions that didn't always lead to the best results.

Sort of like most liberal policies

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"most liberal policies" wind up doing some good, or don't you like your 40 hr work week and your paid vacations and the fact that old people don't often drop dead on the streetcorner or weigh the importance of a cat food dinner vs that cumaden they need to keep from having a stroke.

UncleBuck said:

engle, buck, miller, o'donnell...you kochsuckers are so dumb to have nominated extremist morons like that.

but good job on replacing the only senator to vote against the patriot act with a corporate welfare sucking hypocrite.

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I hope you don't include me in your blanket bigoted, mean spirited "you". I blame the Koch brothers for hi-jacking and general grass roots movement like I had never seen.

My post about them vetting better was littered with sarcasm, but that's hard to convey in writing sometimes.

canndo said:

"most liberal policies" wind up doing some good, or don't you like your 40 hr work week and your paid vacations and the fact that old people don't often drop dead on the streetcorner or weigh the importance of a cat food dinner vs that cumaden they need to keep from having a stroke.

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It's the weekend guys, try out a sense of humor every now and then. Liberals are so sensitive sometimes.

Besides, cat food is very high in protein.

Harrekin said:

What are you like 11 AND retarded?

How does cutting wasteful and unnecessary spending reduce demand? The revenue generating side is just fine, it's the Gov that cant fucking live within its budget and demands more in taxation (reducing demand) that fucks up an economy.

Sometimes I wonder how people like you survive on a day to day basis swallowing the total bullshit economics of the current status quo... it's just their justification for "tax and spend".

If America ended all foreign "combat operations" I bet you could balance the budget and cut taxes, thus spurring demand. That's just ONE item of wasteful spending that can be cut from many.

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The revenue generating side is not fine. When you cut billions of dollars in spending unless the private sector can offset those cuts, you will lose growth and revenues will fall. The private sector is sitting on trillions in cash with no sign that they're going to spend it without demand. Investors aren't investing because lack of demand, they're literally paying the treasury to take their money.

In this environment something has to stimulate demand. So you think that if the government cut all spending to the same level as revenues the economy would actually improve? How?

Cohaagen said:

The revenue generating side is not fine. When you cut billions of dollars in spending unless the private sector can offset those cuts, you will lose growth and revenues will fall. The private sector is sitting on trillions in cash with no sign that they're going to spend it without demand. Investors aren't investing because lack of demand, they're literally paying the treasury to take their money.

In this environment something has to stimulate demand. So you think that if the government cut all spending to the same level as revenues the economy would actually improve? How?

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Contrary to popular belief, giving the government a dollar and having them grind it down to 20 cents to teach ball washing does NOT stimulate an economy.

Wanna talk about "sense of humor" I argue with any number of conservatives, in different sites, in person, even in editorials and blogs.

The most common thing relating to a "sense of humor" is that conservatives profess to have great ones, why they can make a joke about and laugh over liberal foibles both real and imagined all day long - hey! "Where is your sense of humor?" "can't you take a joke man?" they are quick to see how hilarious liberals can be even when their jokes are thinly disguised propaganda and straw men, even when their jokes are really abuse and venom.


But should someone on the left make the same sort of reference, the same sort of insinuation while labeling it a "joke" and watch those conservative feathers fly.

Sensitive? I am a bit when it comes to refering to this conservative myth or that bit of conservative "common understanding" as though they were real and undisputed fact.


But hey! it is no coincidence that the majority of comedians are liberal.

ginwilly said:

Contrary to popular belief, giving the government a dollar and having them grind it down to 20 cents to teach ball washing does NOT stimulate an economy.

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Where did that 80 cents go gin? thin air?

UncleBuck said:

and to the austerity hungry GOP brainiacs, how's all that austerity working out across europe?

even your savior romney says austerity is too contractionary during a time like this. maybe you guys should take a hint.

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You're clearly over using your treadmills, not enough O2 across the blood/brain barrier or something.

Europes only problems are the countries that WON'T cut their bullshit spending.

Cut back on the exercise bro