Hard pass on "earthy"

skuba

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I've got a jar of mimosa that you would swear someone just dumped some soil in your mouth. Earthy is just the beginning. I've turns this strain into gummies, mct caps, and chocolates, it still tastes like potting soil to me.
That doesn’t sound like mimosa at all, it has a strong orange citrus type of flavor. This wasn’t from a clone was it?
 

Johiem

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That doesn’t sound like mimosa at all, it has a strong orange citrus type of flavor. This wasn’t from a clone was it?
No, not a clone. Gifted seed. I don't know that I'll pop any of the others he gave me. Although the pineapple express he gave me are beautiful. Lost a bunch of pics when the phone died. Let me see if I can find them in my previous posts.
 

Apostatize

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If you really want good quality buds the first place to start is get this 7-9 week flowering time out of your head. Plants don't flower based on a calendar, and breeders flat out lie about finishing times to sell seeds.

MOST GOOD/Great plants need 9-10 weeks of actual flowering time(from when they start forming flowers, not the 12/12 flip) and some need more to be properly finished and provide the diverse terpene profiles you want, along with the weight and potency you desire.
Agreed/figuring that out. Tried out ~18 strains, reduced it to 8. Still cutting.... So far, Grape Ape is the fastest flowering plant I have (8 weeks). The others all finish in more like 10-11 weeks. Grape Ape isn't my most potent, but it yields pretty good and has dense buds. Its fast flowering time gives me more flexibility:
1) I can veg it for a relatively long time (~4 mos), like the others, and LST/super-crop/lollipop, the whole 9 yards ... on 3 shelves at same height (there's a gap between each shelf); and/or
2) I can veg Grape Ape for a short time, lollipop a main stalk/few branches, and bloom it in the gaps between shelves in the perpetual bloom setup. Idk, still figure out what works best for me ... variety of strains, variety of training techniques, variety of flowering times....

For me, new additions should improve potency and bag appeal, add unique funk, but have a shorter flowering time ... until my stable's all closer to 8 weeks (8-10). Currently, I'm gravitating toward a few things Dark Horse has out that are advertised as 8-10 weeks, one's 8 weeks (Hulkamania, Conjugal Visit, and Roid Rage) (currently out of stock...). Additionally, my stable includes elev8's Gorilla Cookies and I'm considering some of their more recent Gelato crosses to improve/complement my Gelato/Larry Bird genetics, though Gelato takes a while longer....

Idk, I'm enjoying the process!!!
 
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Johiem

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No, not a clone. Gifted seed. I don't know that I'll pop any of the others he gave me. Although the pineapple express he gave me are beautiful. Lost a bunch of pics when the phone died. Let me see if I can find them in my previous posts.
Found them. First one was the "Mimosa" second was the pineapple express. The pineapple express is sweet, smooth and firm. The "Mimosa" is "earthy":mrgreen:, rough, and firm. Dude dropped of the face of the earth so I haven't been able too ask what it was potentially crossed with or if he just told me the wrong damned name.
 

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Palomar

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Oh, yeah ... and grape flavor is currently covered by Grape Ape (Mendocino Purps, Skunk, Afghani) (7+ week flowering time, high-yield, high calyx-to-leaf ratio, flexible, vigorous plant). It's relatively inexpensive at Grower's Choice (< 21% THC) and, unlike most of my final selections, Crop King's version isn't advertised as having 4+% higher THC; it's the same or less (~19%), so I don't pay more for another one unless its THC's > 4% higher (assuming no major yield loss).
I have a Grape Ape going now too... I’ve tried a few grape strains in last few years that were real good - New Grape 48, Grape Dosi, Super Silver Ape. Those grape strains have their own thing going for them.

On “earthy”, I just described a NLHaze that way... and sweet. Not many modern strains have that hazy skunk earth scent with breeders chasing strong orange, lemon, etc.

respect,
pal
 

Thundercat

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If you want a unique flavor and high to add to your bullpen I’d suggest Jack Herer. It won’t be done in 8 weeks but the flavor and high have been great every time I’ve smoked it.
 

tkufoS

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I have a Grape Ape going now too... I’ve tried a few grape strains in last few years that were real good - New Grape 48, Grape Dosi, Super Silver Ape. Those grape strains have their own thing going for them.

On “earthy”, I just described a NLHaze that way... and sweet. Not many modern strains have that hazy skunk earth scent with breeders chasing strong orange, lemon, etc.

respect,
pal
If it has pronounced orange or lemon terps , I damn near vomit. I like old school . I think it takes someone from the old (er) school to really dig earthy. Grape ape and GDP from @ 2010 ~2014 had good grapey flavor iirc .Santa cruz blue dream is pretty amazing imho . Deathstar , Bubba..also a couple of my fav's.
 

Rufus T. Firefly

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I look at a strain's smell description like I'd look at a product's ingredient list. If it's written correctly, what's in there the most is listed first. So, hard pass if the first scent that comes to mind about a strain is "earthy." But if earthy's the fourth or fifth descriptor, I'll consider it. No nose, no sale.

Another analogy is wine. Americans aren't known for their appreciation of terroir (a sense of place, properties of particular soil/climate grapes were grown), we want big fruit-forward flavors. It's probably the same for cannabis. Perhaps there are noteworthy exceptions, "earthy" seems esoteric.
You're hanging out with the wrong Americans :bigjoint:
 

canna_420

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Oh, for sure. It's mostly economics. Tried out ~18 strains with this approach and still discontinued more than half of them. I'll be more adventurous.

There are some genetic redundancies in my current stable (e.g., 3 different thin mint GSC crosses (2 sativa-dom, 1 indica-dom) (GSC comes in under OG Kush)), but I've got some good genetics too:

4 sativa-dominant strains:
- 5 Alive
- Animal Crackers
- Bruce Banner (1.0, 2.0)
- Gorilla Cookies

4 indica-dominant stains:
- Grape Ape
- Larry Bird (Gelato) (might have green and purple phenos)
- White Widow
- Taskenti

For getting these on an economic budget you could go to Mr Nice auctions.
You get NL, SK and Master kush in 18 packs from €12.50 up.
Also get his haze hybrids from €12.50+ staring bid.
 

La Changua

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I was thinking about the widely circulated clone, wow those are frosty and beautiful
Thank .

For me it was a bit disappointing not to find the orange pheno, I thought it was more common to find it, but they are not bad at all.
 

La Changua

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Those look like they would smell dank as fuck...so how earthy did they smell..does it smell earthy as in musky dirt?
Full earthy smell, fresh soil. Like Moss.

Well the first Pic looks really nice but the plant it has nothing special, only the appearance, very low smell, almost inexistent, taste is not bad but nothing different, good smoke.

Second Pic it's much better, strong earthy smell, earthy taste, very good smoke .

Lovely plants to grow, easy, fast and beautiful flowers.
 

Dividedsky

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Full earthy smell, fresh soil. Like Moss.

Well the first Pic looks really nice but the plant it has nothing special, only the appearance, very low smell, almost inexistent, taste is not bad but nothing different, good smoke.

Second Pic it's much better, strong earthy smell, earthy taste, very good smoke .

Lovely plants to grow, easy, fast and beautiful flowers.
Trust me brotha I've been there...I've had some phenos that looked absolute killer and have no nose, like at all.
 

Moabfighter

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I’m all about earth and not at all about berries and fruit weed but maybe that’s just me. It’s either gotta be earthy or flowery like Slurricane or I don’t want it. Blueberry strain being the only exception or maybe this orange cookies Mac I have started. I hate fruity weed man. Weeds supposed to taste like weed, ie earth, to me! There’s a market for berries and fruit , cheese vibes, don’t get me wrong but that’s not my preferred profile!
 

skuba

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Full earthy smell, fresh soil. Like Moss.

Well the first Pic looks really nice but the plant it has nothing special, only the appearance, very low smell, almost inexistent, taste is not bad but nothing different, good smoke.

Second Pic it's much better, strong earthy smell, earthy taste, very good smoke .

Lovely plants to grow, easy, fast and beautiful flowers.
Sounds Purple Punch, looks great but hardly any smell or taste
 

Rufus T. Firefly

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I’m all about earth and not at all about berries and fruit weed but maybe that’s just me. It’s either gotta be earthy or flowery like Slurricane or I don’t want it. Blueberry strain being the only exception or maybe this orange cookies Mac I have started. I hate fruity weed man. Weeds supposed to taste like weed, ie earth, to me! There’s a market for berries and fruit , cheese vibes, don’t get me wrong but that’s not my preferred profile!
I'm burnt out on the sweet stuff too.
 
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