Hard ass beans

Im germing Moscas cindy99bx1 and these fuckers are as hard as bbs.I soaked 5 in ph water and hormone powder for two days before putting them in the cloth(also scuffed with a finger nail file).Ive never had any problems germing but these are some hard ass beans.Ive got three out of 5 but would like to do better on the next 5.Anybody else ever had seeds so hard they dont want to shed the shell.Any tips on germing hard seeds would be great.

Mr.Therapy Man said:

Im germing Moscas cindy99bx1 and these fuckers are as hard as bbs.I soaked 5 in ph water and hormone powder for two days before putting them in the cloth(also scuffed with a finger nail file).Ive never had any problems germing but these are some hard ass beans.Ive got three out of 5 but would like to do better on the next 5.Anybody else ever had seeds so hard they dont want to shed the shell.Any tips on germing hard seeds would be great.

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Have you tried using a heating pad? I usually get sprouts a day or two quicker with one.

Ive got two pads and both are in use with my cloner and dome.Ill try to move the pad off to the side and use the corner of the mat................,Thanks

Mr.Therapy Man said:

Ive got two pads and both are in use with my cloner and dome.Ill try to move the pad off to the side and use the corner of the mat................,Thanks

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I've never tried it but I've heard that if you freeze beans like that for 2 weeks or so you may have a better success rate.

Ive never seen beans this hard and Ive been smoking and growing since the late 70s.....Thanks and peace

how long did you wait for them too pop?

The ones that are going to go popped pretty quick the others just kind of stalled(they have started to crack but dont look viable to me)Soaked two days in water and two days in the cloth

a knowledgable member told me to wait as long as 2 weeks.maybe a lil more patience?i threw some mine out after 7 days an now wish i had waited longer.cause for me its pain ful to pay for seeds,know what i mean?PEACE

my steps
first night under water on heating pad if split to soil
seciond night under peroxide on heat pad if spllit to soil if not to napkins keep on heat pad keep damp with mist for aweek
after week i start scarcification depend on how i feel might include picking the edge of seem where it splits off , or sandpaper .or picking a piece off , if i feel really destructive or desperate i take a razor blade and open bean where it splits carful not to injure baby inside then to napkin

in the end im at about 100 %
some just throw out if dont split in 2 days must have money

good luck

i have never had this problem, but have heard of a solution.... line a small matchbox with sandpaper, put seeds in, shake around for awhile... the point is to scuff the hard shell a little bit so that it can absorb water easier...

as stated, i have never really encountered this problem, but i have had seeds take 2weeks to pop.... just gotta be patient and loving

gogrow said:

i have never had this problem, but have heard of a solution.... line a small matchbox with sandpaper, put seeds in, shake around for awhile... the point is to scuff the hard shell a little bit so that it can absorb water easier...

as stated, i have never really encountered this problem, but i have had seeds take 2weeks to pop.... just gotta be patient and loving

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yet another common sense approach.ingenious!WELL DONE

Gogrow is correct. I use an emery board.....just a few scratches in one place near the tip bzz bzz, it's done. It doesn't take much.

I don't think putting hormone powder in the solution does much of anything.

im told hormone powder actually inhibits root growth, that it is only for making roots break through a cut clone.

Yes Slik... correct. It's not an all purpose powder. There are far better nutes to promote root growth than rooting hormones. The hormones simply tell the covered area.... "hey, produce some roots here".

I was following Mosca Negras directions with the powder,anyway I just checked the last two and they have popped now so I got all 5 to germ and freaked a little early............Thanks and peace

well then, no worries.