Hallelujah!

Ernst said:

So, Taoists are not welcomed in the Politics forum I take it.

More hate and intolerance UB?

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when did the "no taoists" sign get hung? i must have missed it.

not hate and intolerance, in fact i love and tolerate you. but that reply was so 'out there' that i felt compelled.

sorry to offend you, was hoping you'd take it with a grain of salt.

newatit2010 said:

Yea but like the governor said we will pass it again. Time for the demoasses to run out of state again, sorry bastards.

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Not if the recall elections have anything to say about it. That's going to happen in July. All they need to do is elect three Democrats and the bill will never see daylight. Unless they manage to rush another bill through before then. I doubt it will get the same support from the GOP candidates this time around.

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Yea but like the governor said we will pass it again. Time for the demoasses to run out of state again, sorry bastards.

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Good, let 'em pass it again. Then the Democrats can say that Walker and his thugs voted against labor not once but twice! I have a feeling Walker will be the next Santorum (lol, frothy lube... on a serious note Santorum was a one term governer [in PA] for pursuing a movement conservative agenda).

Its not good news, it failed due to a technicality. They will have another meeting and they will have it while "Dancing with the Stars" airs. No one will show up to thwart them and it will pass.

It would be political suicide. But, Walker isn't known for making intelligent choices. He left a mess behind him after his last job. How he got elected as Governor is beyond me.

When I see those protesters I wonder if I am living in America or Greece. It's the same thing unions trying to bring down the government. What they going to do when the money runs out? Do you think the unions bosses give a crap, where they going to go? (the unemployment line for more government money) Where is it going to stop?

newatit2010 said:

When I see those protesters I wonder if I am living in America or Greece.

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I dunno, does it matter? You see people protesting and you automatically have a negative reaction? This country was built by people protesting and standing up for what they beleive in. If it wasnt for people protesting we would still have segregation, and a slave trade and the left wing fringe group known as "women" still wouldnt be allowed to vote.

Oh and if it wasnt for unions you would have a lot less than you do today.....a lot less. And the reason you probably have less today then you did last year isn't because of the unions. Ive mentioned this to you befor, the unions have no influence today. They have been beaten into nothingness. They have next to no influence. Is it just a crazy coincidence that the middle class has been dying in proportion to this? I dunno, maybe but I doubt it.
Stamping the last tiny bit of union power to death isn't going to miraculously reverse the middle class death trend. Quite the opposite actually.

Carne Seca said:

It would be political suicide. But, Walker isn't known for making intelligent choices. He left a mess behind him after his last job. How he got elected as Governor is beyond me.

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It wouldn't be suicide, it would be a brilliant move. Walker would ride that victory to its maximum potential as states nationwide attempted to get his hardnosed style into their states. Hell the guy could just go state to state setting up residency then becoming governor and reducing their debt load. Any idea how many states are in economic trouble? 49, and its that fucking goddamn state that comes up more often than any other, Shithole North Dakota is the ONLY state that has low unemployment and has a tax surplus, and some of the lowest taxes in the nation and just gave its citizens a tax refund this year. Why is that state the only one with their shit together? My state is about to collapse under a shit ton of debt and we have all sorts of industry here, but that freezing tundra waste of a state, North Dakota is doing well. Its a fucked up world we live in.

NoDrama said:

It wouldn't be suicide, it would be a brilliant move. Walker would ride that victory to its maximum potential as states nationwide attempted to get his hardnosed style into their states. Hell the guy could just go state to state setting up residency then becoming governor and reducing their debt load. Any idea how many states are in economic trouble? 49, and its that fucking goddamn state that comes up more often than any other, Shithole North Dakota is the ONLY state that has low unemployment and has a tax surplus, and some of the lowest taxes in the nation and just gave its citizens a tax refund this year. Why is that state the only one with their shit together? My state is about to collapse under a shit ton of debt and we have all sorts of industry here, but that freezing tundra waste of a state, North Dakota is doing well. Its a fucked up world we live in.

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Amazing how low population makes you immune to housing bubbles!

if we would take all the great minds from here on RIU and put them to work together, i think we would over run this gov and run a whole lot better system

olylifter420 said:

if we would take all the great minds from here on RIU and put them to work together, i think we would over run this gov and run a whole lot better system

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Yes but most of us live by our strong morals and ethics. There is no place in politics for moraly and ethically driven people, they get eaten alive.

newatit2010 said:

When I see those protesters I wonder if I am living in America or Greece. It's the same thing unions trying to bring down the government. What they going to do when the money runs out? Do you think the unions bosses give a crap, where they going to go? (the unemployment line for more government money) Where is it going to stop?

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You have a very skewed outlook on reality.

what's wrong with union workers i have been in the union for ten years now and i love it they give me great insurance great pay and retirement.
Union workers are being cast aside for cheaper workers with no skills in their craft just cheaper labor. Thankfully where i live the union is strong
just like it should be.

Union workers are a part of history most of our cities and powerhouses were built by union workers. In case you haven't noticed already im a yankee.

The union haters aren't interested in facts or positive responses. They only want to spew the talking point propaganda that is administered through the Kool-Aid they drink. You're not going to see rational arguments, it's going to be lies, half-truths and ad hominem attacks.

UncleBuck said:

when did the "no taoists" sign get hung? i must have missed it.

not hate and intolerance, in fact i love and tolerate you. but that reply was so 'out there' that i felt compelled.

sorry to offend you, was hoping you'd take it with a grain of salt.

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I have read this reply.

Carne Seca said:

The union haters aren't interested in facts or positive responses. They only want to spew the talking point propaganda that is administered through the Kool-Aid they drink. You're not going to see rational arguments, it's going to be lies, half-truths and ad hominem attacks.

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lmao...your probably right but i couldn't go without saying my peace. I don't know why people hate on the unions they just make your life better your workplace safer and they take care of you. Im talking about union hall, as for the political issues involved with all the lobbyist shit going on. I try to not think about it.

LIVE BETTER VOTE UNION!!!!

happy growing you all.....tristynhawk

Ernst said:

I have read this reply.

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was that intended as a courtesy?

UncleBuck said:

was that intended as a courtesy?

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Well since I meant to use the other guy's initials and not yours I was short on any other reply.

I have had dental work today so I am not so chipper.

ginjawarrior said:

+1

im sorry but anyone that brings tarot or i-ching or frigging tea leaves to a conversation like this forfeits any future claim of rationality

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Ernst said:

So, Taoists are not welcomed in the Politics forum I take it.

More hate and intolerance UB?

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Ernst said:

Well since I meant to use the other guy's initials and not yours I was short on any other reply.

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ah so you aiming that at me? must ask where my previous "hate and intolerance" was

personally i think the word you were looking for was "Disdain"

i was contemptuous to the fact that somoene brought their "crystal ball reading" to a serious political discussion

the fact that you cannot see the ludicrousness of that and that you got but hurt and cried religious intolerance has done nothing to elevate my view

so yeah utter disdain with extra added contempt for the butthurt

just wondering in your campaigning for cannabis when you talk to "officials" do you break out your i-ching cards as a way of backing up your case?

ginjawarrior said:

ah so you aiming that at me? must ask where my previous "hate and intolerance" was

personally i think the word you were looking for was "Disdain"

I was contemptuous to the fact that someone brought their "crystal ball reading" to a serious political discussion

the fact that you cannot see the ludicrousness of that and that you got but hurt and cried religious intolerance has done nothing to elevate my view

so yeah utter disdain with extra added contempt for the butthurt

just wondering in your campaigning for cannabis when you talk to "officials" do you break out your I-Ching cards as a way of backing up your case?

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I corrected your spelling and grammar.
You are ignorant of what I Ching is and there are no I Ching Cards. You are confused and ignorant.
I wrote a long and thoughtful reply but it's wasted on this idiotic and obvious tirade.
So if you take the time to know your subject matter we can talk but pearls before swine comes to mind in arguing with intolerance of other cultures.

It's not hard to learn to use the I Ching and it's obvious you cannot counter what was posted except to yell some aspersion and gloat upon your personal limitations as achievement.

That about covers it. You are a hater who doesn't understand what he is hating on but needs attention anyway and is pandering to the base intellect of group acceptance as a tool.
I grew out of the need for Group acceptance when I left high school and you will too. Some day maybe.
Be your own man. Open your eyes and learn about the I Ching. It's wonderful as is Taoism.