• Here is a link to the full explanation: https://rollitup.org/t/welcome-back-did-you-try-turning-it-off-and-on-again.1104810/

Haha A good fwd i got

PVS

Active Member
That's not a birth certificate, that's a Certificate of Live Birth, and it is missing a shit load of information that would put the entire matter to rest, like the actual hospital, time of birth, actual city, province/state, nation, attending physician, so on and so forth.

it is a short-form birth certificate. arguing the semantics of the title is
just grasping for straws. hospital and doctor are not required by the hawaii state dept.
'nation' is implied since it is a hawaii state birth certificate
(i just looked at my own and nation is not listed).
the exact time is listed as 7:24 pm.
the certificate clearly states that he was born in honolulu, on the island of oahu.
look for yourself:
http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_3.jpg

so its missing the hospital and doctor, which are not required by the state dept.
i would hardly call that a "shit load of information"
*edit* my own birth certificate says "certificate of live birth" at the header.
oh fuck imma gonna get deported!!! IMMIGRA!!!!
 

Dolce Vita

Active Member
[FONT=Arial (W1)]When you walk out the door in the morning and see this in the sky......


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...[FONT=Arial (W1)].just go back inside, have another cup of coffee, and stay home. It's NOT going to be a good day.[/FONT]
dude you posted nothing, so if you walk outside and see nothing its not going to be a good day? im so lost
 

Antidisestablishmentarian

Well-Known Member
Hmmm... Texas did not steal Mexico.

Texicans(thats what they called themselves) signed a contract with the Mexican government to live there. The contract was not upheld. Independence was declared. The Mexican army moved in.

At the battle of San Jacinto, the mexican leader was captured and surrendered Texas to the Texicans.

After he was released, Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna went into exile in the US. When he returned, he tried to take Texas back(1842).

Mexico did not uphold their end of the bargain, and subsequently lost a war and territory.

On a side note, I learned all the basics of Texas history in 7th grade(Texas History). Do other states offer the same for themselves?

I.E. California History, Idaho History, etc...
 

TheBrutalTruth

Well-Known Member
The US annexed the Republic of Texas, which was its own country.

Can't steal what they don't own.

Edit: What about the Alamo?
Texas chose to be annexed, so making it sound like we forced Texas into the union ignores the fact that Texas revolted, gained its independence, and then chose to voluntarily associate with the United States by signing the Constitution.

Of course, for some reason, when it chose to leave 20 years later it was no longer assumed to have the right to voluntarily be a party to the Constitution but had its membership become mandatory. One could argue that the entire South was Federalized as a result of the war, and the immediate aftermath following Lincoln's assassination would give proof to that, based on how drastically worse the treatment of the south became afterwards.
 

Antidisestablishmentarian

Well-Known Member
Texas was a part of Mexico. Mexicans(which is what the revolutionaries were by contract, Mexican Citizens) declared independence and became their own country.

The US then annexed this new country, Texas, into the US.

No theft by the US of Texas.

Edit: Interesting. Our whole 7th grade history class was Texas History. You learned of no other history that year, but Texas history.
 
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