H.A.F. growing stink-flowers in dirt with QB's

morugawelder said:

Yeah 3 gal it is , afraid 5 gal. and I won't have enough room for 4 ladies in a 4x4 tent , The one has really sprawled out .

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Previous post is 3 gallon round and square. The square ones have a Velcro side to make transplant easier if I want to go bigger. The Velcro is money, the square part is bogus unless you make a frame. I bent a coat hanger into a square and threaded it through the tops of those.

And this is my only current thread. Since I have an update on my manifold I'll drop in over there and post a pic

Day 102, day 42 from flip
I'll venture a guess of between 4-5oz wet per limb. Which would be between 8-10oz dry for the 10 tops. If I get even 14g dried from each it hits my "ounce-per-pot-gallon". So I think a monster crop may have it's place, it just took way too long.


And the trichomes are finally turning. Granted, this is on the outside of new growth, so there's no telling what the old ones on the inside look like.

Based on the "21 days from 1st brown pistil to harvest" rule of thumb from an old high times mag - a.k.a. "hippie harvest" - I have another 7 days.

I think the foxtailing has added to that some if I want the pistils at least mostly brown, but not much. I saw a few random ambers with the loupe, so a week should easily bump it up to 10-20% amber. Considering that the trichomes that formed with the first round of pistils are probably ripe-to-dead on the inside, I think that is about the most % I want.

Edited: After looking at the calendar and the feed schedule, this is the main reason I like that long-term harvest estimate. Using the 15th as a tentative harvest date, I can plan better.

Still chugging along, the fan leaves on the NL are getting huge.
Pruned the shoots on the 2 small limbs to see if they'll get taller.

And the flower closet smells wonderful. I guess it's the genetics, because I have not gotten any skunk smells from any plant I've grown yet. While growing it has a sweet spicy scent, when it's dry it has a distinct cheese smell, and when it's cured the grinder smells like Juicyfruit gum.

Waiting...

The NL also really has a personality now. When the soil was almost dry yesterday at lights out everything was stretching to the lights. When the lights came on everything was drooping, and didn't perk up when the lights came on.

I think this is where the art beats the science. Some plants don't respond as noticeably, but if you pay attention you can keep from over or underwatering.

Also noticed on the 2 gallon pots (4 skunk) that right after flip I had to feed/water them every 2 days. I was on the verge of switching to a feed-feed-water and trying to figure out ppm's and crap, but then they stopped stretching. Back to 3 days.

I think this is the reason I prefer old-school watering and dirt. Auto-watering systems may be fine, but it's little nuggets like this that make me not invest.

My NL Manifold-strocity is evidence of what happens when I get bored. Thinking about how nugbuckets got those tall tight buds, so on the one top that had been clean pruned I topped the first set of shoots - whatever node they are. Normally I would remove them, but if I keep doing this until flip it might work. So one has been topped early into two tops, two have a second early shoot left on that has been lolli-popped, and one just got this.

The 2 with an extra shoot are looking like twins, so they might be good to do the above topping experiment with. I think I'll go back in and top the shoots on one then prune the other like I normally do. It should only be a week until I can flip it, but I want those foxtails to get pretty.

H.A.F. said:

Day 102, day 42 from flip
I'll venture a guess of between 4-5oz wet per limb. Which would be between 8-10oz dry for the 10 tops. If I get even 14g dried from each it hits my "ounce-per-pot-gallon". So I think a monster crop may have it's place, it just took way too long.
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You can see 3 distinct rounds of pistils. Brown and dead, amber and dying, and fresh from the foxtails. Luckily, it looks like the foxtails are stopping and turning on the tops.​

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And the trichomes are finally turning. Granted, this is on the outside of new growth, so there's no telling what the old ones on the inside look like.
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How tall are they from top of colas to top soil ? Looking Great !

morugawelder said:

How tall are they from top of colas to top soil ? Looking Great !

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About 5" to the bottom of the canopy,

and 11-12" to the top.

Buds are 5-6" tall, and about 3-4" in diameter - and SOLID

And I have no freaking clue when they will stop pumping out pistils. They are almost touching now on the sides. The nuggies have foxtails too. I may not be able to use the bowl trimmer on any of this one. Damn the luck

This will definitely be a tedious effort to manicure the most photogenic budstrosity

These ladies got fed today. The NL got another prune and stretch. removed the lowest shoots from the 2 limbs with extra sprouts, and some old fan leaves that were shaded or shading. I think I've done enough experimenting. I am just going to keep topping the shoots on that one limb (as needed) until flip the rest get to go free from here on out.

60 days old, and got her week 7 veg feed. I soaked her (1.5gal in 3gal pot) and because I am using up what I can of the FF Trio on her I will be flushing the heck out of her in a few days. Whether I feed her for flower or veg will depend on the monster. My only 'hurry' is flipping this plant - which is just impatience. I'm not short on weed, and have no reason to chop the 5-gallon early. I think this feed, and then a good flush and letting her dry out might
bring out the fall colors.

The little ones only got a quart each, and still haven't gotten a nute yet. I supplement the RO with both cal-mag and silica blast, but I am not feeding until the cotyledon start dying. They have started shedding their skins on the stem, so not long.

Bud porn

Day 46 12/12

I untied the middle flower on each side. They were the smallest/shortest and letting them tip up might keep the others from being too crowded.

You're growing for us all. Thanks!

BLID said:

You're growing for us all. Thanks!

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Then enjoy

Just a stoner-monday post.
The GDP monster clone is cured and smokes well
This is an ounce and a half of the primo tops and dense nugs, about an ounce is out for playing with, decarbing for edibles, etc.
It really doesn't have a distinctive smell, other than weed. Really potent, but not couchlocky (at least not in the morning with coffee)
Tastes smooth, no cough, 4 out of 5 stars. I'd like more terps. I even added the Botanicare "sweet grape" during flower - maybe after it cures longer. That's why I hang on to the primo for last - just gets better and better.

My NL is 63 days old, and because the monster isn't ripening fast enough, I may have to up-pot her.
I really don't want to though, so I am flushing the hell out of the monster tonight, then letting her dry out and see what happens. I may go ahead and chop end of the week. Lots of milky trichomes, just very few amber. In 5 days hopefully that will change to the 10-15% range.

When I say "to play with" here's a sample

I am over bubble hash, too sticky and a mess to deal with. My new process is to just let all the sugar-trim dry, then dry-sift for keif (120m) twice. The second run is generally a little greener. I mainly use the keif (decarbed in a NOVA) to make budder. You can make much smaller 'doses' that pack a punch, and you don't have to strain it.

Then I put the trim in a small jar and cover it with Everclear. Shake it for 90 seconds, then strain it. Once the alcohol evaporates, you end up with hash oil. The pucks are 1/2g of T-pressed keif, coated with oil and allowed to soak in, then dusted with keif like moon-rocks so they don't stick to your fingers.