smilingbigfoot
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I just meant walmart gives you a hard time. you have to over 18 to buy some aersol can and sharp objects. Its a little extreme if you ask me
Guns and Growing.
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locoman610
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Wow some of you have some tough gun laws. I live in PA 18 for long guns 21 for handguns any ammo 18. PA is now also a must issue state so if you have a clean record you can get a CCW. Also anyone who leagly owns a hand gun can where it exposed anywhere tehy choose in public. Yep strap on the biggest hog leg you have and walk right down the street. Yea you are going to get a lot of looks but it is not illegal. Now this is not common practice and I have not seen it but again not illegal.
I'm sorry but those of you who don't think we should own guns has your life or a loved ones ever been put in jepordy? I've carried for more than 20 years and in that time I have drawn my weapon 3 times. Once damn crackhead charged me with a cresent wrench drew and the SOB ran the other way, again an armed robbery at an convience store dude had a piece of 2x2 smahing shit and threating the clerk drew put the laser on him and layed right down and waited for the po po.(it's amazing how when you see that red dot on your chest it changes your whole outlook on life). And just this last year driving down the road a women walking her dog got between her dog and a pit. She was being chewed up pretty bad jammed on the brakes jumped out of the truck one dead pit.
Also now the issue of hunting. In this area there are alot of peps that feed thier families. For that matter the first day of buck season all the schools and most smaller businesses are closed for the first day. Yea I know we are all a bunch of backwardasscountryfucks but they would have a hell of a time trying to take our guns.
If they did outlaw gun ownership the only people that would have them are the po po and the bad guys. And I would rather have my life in my own hands than the police.
OK I am going to shut up now, damn I hate when I blaze too early can't shut up LOL
Anywho Peace all time to spark another up
loco
I'm sorry but those of you who don't think we should own guns has your life or a loved ones ever been put in jepordy? I've carried for more than 20 years and in that time I have drawn my weapon 3 times. Once damn crackhead charged me with a cresent wrench drew and the SOB ran the other way, again an armed robbery at an convience store dude had a piece of 2x2 smahing shit and threating the clerk drew put the laser on him and layed right down and waited for the po po.(it's amazing how when you see that red dot on your chest it changes your whole outlook on life). And just this last year driving down the road a women walking her dog got between her dog and a pit. She was being chewed up pretty bad jammed on the brakes jumped out of the truck one dead pit.
Also now the issue of hunting. In this area there are alot of peps that feed thier families. For that matter the first day of buck season all the schools and most smaller businesses are closed for the first day. Yea I know we are all a bunch of backwardasscountryfucks but they would have a hell of a time trying to take our guns.
If they did outlaw gun ownership the only people that would have them are the po po and the bad guys. And I would rather have my life in my own hands than the police.
OK I am going to shut up now, damn I hate when I blaze too early can't shut up LOL
Anywho Peace all time to spark another up
loco
sittinherebored
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prime example of why they should be legal. i never even bought bullets for my gun until i had people outside my door with guns tryin to get in to rob me.i wasnt even home, my gf was and when they coulnt get in they started shooting. now theres a shotgun standing against the wall next to my bed. damn that was less then a week ago
BCtrippin
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Im just watching a movie right now called "The Magnificent Deception" Its about how the government uses laws we can't understand against us. And about becoming a "Free Man on the Land"
You can view it for free on Google Video
This is part 1 of 2
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6399325693468031456&hl=en
Part 2 of 2
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7257545709470673839&hl=en
Its very informative and even inspiring. Its not about overthrowing government, but empowering yourself with knowledge so that they have no power over you. This doesnt mean you have power over them, but basically they have no power over you for any victimless crime.
I would absolutely Love to hear some of your guys thoughts on some of the ideas expressed in the movie. A lot of it is based in Canada but it would apply anywhere. I actually really want to go to one of the seminars now.
Let me know what you guys think!!
I thought it would be somewhat relevant because we were getting into some government discussions earlier. And if I went through the process of becoming a "free man on the land" I could own all the guns I want with no license and registrations, And grow weed alllll day long.
You can view it for free on Google Video
This is part 1 of 2
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6399325693468031456&hl=en
Part 2 of 2
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7257545709470673839&hl=en
Its very informative and even inspiring. Its not about overthrowing government, but empowering yourself with knowledge so that they have no power over you. This doesnt mean you have power over them, but basically they have no power over you for any victimless crime.
I would absolutely Love to hear some of your guys thoughts on some of the ideas expressed in the movie. A lot of it is based in Canada but it would apply anywhere. I actually really want to go to one of the seminars now.
Let me know what you guys think!!
I thought it would be somewhat relevant because we were getting into some government discussions earlier. And if I went through the process of becoming a "free man on the land" I could own all the guns I want with no license and registrations, And grow weed alllll day long.
BCtrippin
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If anyone does watch the video...
...I think it's time we start digging our own pool.
http://www.worldfreemansociety.org/WFS/Welcome.html
...I think it's time we start digging our own pool.
http://www.worldfreemansociety.org/WFS/Welcome.html
hi Im new here but this is the thread that register. I smoke grass like its goin otta style and love my guns. I had my own gun in my room when I was a youth as did many friends and it was a privilage and a responsabilty.Many poeple would be appauled at this nowadays but my parents new they could trust me as I will know when my son is mature enough he will get his own wall hanger. The problem now is that people are not responsable for them selves meaning GOV. will take care of them. i/e " I'm to fat it must be mc donalds fault GOV. HELP" then what grease gets out lawed I can no longer get good fries. And the list goes on Ammo/cig sin tax gimme a break I'm insured and none of my ammo has injured any one. There for my hobbies/addiction to cigarettes cost Gov. not one cent but I get taxed thank you crazed demoncrats. But Oh well I can still shoot and smoke for now but I don't think it will stay that way for long. And locoman you are all to correct and a good man for pointing out the positives of conceal carry you sure won't hear that from the media. My mom and I have our carry lic. my wife will soon also due to a close call in a parking garage downtown. I've been begging her to carry for a few years but she was of the opinion "I've had self defence classes" or "what are the odds" but that changed in that garage. I am 6'2" 250lb I can handle my self and still carry daily many people don't understand why but they can relate to this"I didnt enter in to death match/fight for my life so I shouldnt have to even I could win". Well my inlaws take on self defence is your pretty big just use your fist. btw my fil has kept a louieville sluger at bed side for years to protect his familey hahaha.... what a great way to shot dead in your room and leave you wife and kids to fend for themselves. But theres no tellin them they all think im a sissy for havin gun in the nightstand but laughs on them I will survive such rare occurance. Plus nothing feels better than taking some anti-gunner go out to try it for themselves with a .22 auto. After the painful looks every triggerpull for a mag or two they relax and settle in on the bulls eye and BAM you have a convert. While they might still be a crazy lib Gov. will make it better type they might carry their fun target shooting stories to a discusion with other crazies and maybe change some minds. Anyway I'm stoned and getting stonder .I just wanted to join the discusion and say if you own a gun good if you don't then go buy one fast....
smilingbigfoot
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my dad always said its better to be tried by 12 then carried by 6.
LostInSpace...
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Now theres some good advice!
slackjack
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most responsible gun owners don't break the law so thats kind of a non-issue, except on here, but they're harmless freedom loving potheads like everyone else!
As for the person who finds themselves with those two options they chose to be there.
sittinherebored
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how did they chose to be there? if someone is breaking in to your house or trying to rob you how da f*ck did you chose to be there?
slackjack
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Explain to me how someone breaking into my house is going to leave me with the options of dieing or being accused and tried in court...... this'll be a wild tale...
Sorry, it's the person who breaks into the house that has the option of gettin blown away/having a refrigerator f*cking crush them by an angry houseowner OR merely arrested when things turn bad.
Your an idiot.
Sorry, it's the person who breaks into the house that has the option of gettin blown away/having a refrigerator f*cking crush them by an angry houseowner OR merely arrested when things turn bad.
Your an idiot.
slackjack
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BCT, I'm sorry to say I lost interest in the vid when the camera guy called the policeman "not a happy camper" when it was the camera guy being stand offish when the policeman was clearly being kind and neighborly with the crowd. Then the dude goes into a long restaurant story about this place that sucked, so the next meal he goes back and is suprised when the same restaurant still sucks... their just looking for a reason to fight which is way more apart of the problem than anything else.
smilingbigfoot
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people get arrested, tried, and convicted everyday when they were protecting their own life. I can name numerous cases where this has happened.
BCtrippin
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Watch the whole video. The first bit doesnt really explain much......
Also check out "Bursting Bubbles of Government Deception"
If you actually watch it and take the time to try to understand the theories its actually pretty interesting. Right now I could literally fight any non-violent crime in court and win 100% by default because they can't charge me, by their own laws, they can only charge my "person" of a society.
Now if you look up the definition of society...
A number of people joined by mutual consent to deliberate and act for a common goal.
Every society that exists you have to consent to join. The law society has requirements and give you a little card.
Our laws were put in place to govern society.
Can you name my society? Didn't think so. Once I apply for a SIN I am asking to be a government agent and to pay taxes. Nowhere in any law does it say I am required as a human being in this land to register and pay taxes. Everyone just Assumes thats the way it is because thats what everyone else does.
Has anyone ever looked this stuff up to find out before applying for a SIN? I Doubt it.
The fact that I have to apply or a SIN and am not given one technically means, if I choose, I can abandon that number that was assigned to me by my government.
OK, so heres the key. My government cant charge me with any law that is only a statute, or act they can only charge that "person" that they assign to me when I apply for my SIN number and ask to be a government agent.
So the key is separating my physical self from the legal fiction that is assigned to me when I go begging to pay Taxes and work for the governemt.
Now I want to make very clear. Violent crimes, Any crime that inflicts harm to another human, or damage to their property is still a crime, and you Will be charged.
But if you read into things like "The Controlled Substance Act" you quickly realize that it is Not a law. But it is defined as having the power that other authorities would have. Basically its not a "law" it CAN have the power a "law" WOULD have.
How many people have read the controlled substances Act? Its like a foreign language. You literally Have to be a lawyer or study law to even begin to understand it.
How can anyone be governed by rules that they can't even understand?
Next time you getting hassled try to get a cop to define between a Statute, an Act, or a Law. He wont have a clue. And when has has no idea you can tell him that not knowing the difference between an Act and Law is gross neglegance and comparable to Fraud.
Ever seen a cop get scared because he just doesnt know? Its pretty funny. Cops are Not the smartest people, it doesnt take much to learn more about the law and use it against them.Knowledge is power. Cops seem to have it the other way around. They think they have power, till you hit them with some knowledge, then you remove all that power they think they have over you.
BCtrippin
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Our laws are based on the same principals. I would look into it.Ok ok, I'm watchin a little further
quick question: Does it apply to people in the US or just Canada?
http://www.worldfreemansociety.org/WFS/Welcome.html
Robert-Aurthur Menard started it all when the government wanted to take his kid. Robert has got to be the Smartest pot head on the planet IMO!!
This guy breaks ALL stereotypes of stoners and activists. Hes a fucking genius. Instead of complaining the guy gets out and does something about it. Hes been deconstructing Laws, Acts and Statutes to find out the truth behind them. Lawyers hate when people do that, the more you know, the harder it is for them.
I know it all started in Canada, over here in BC where Robert-A Lives. But there has been a lot of interest and its spreading all over the world.
Obtain a copy of Blacks Law Dictionary, its kinda crazy. Any society is allowed to make their own language to use within that society. Well the Law society created a language that looks a Lot like "English" but when you start to read through it you realize they changed the meaning of a lot of words to mean the exact opposite of what they should mean. So it looks like english, sounds like english, But its not english, and only someone in the "Law Society" can truely understand it. At least thats what they want you to think. They want you to believe you need a Lawyer to represent you.
In Alberta BC in the Highway Traffic Act they redefine the word Accident to mean An intentional collision
So basically, every time someone gets in an actual accident in Alberta and walks up to a cop and says " Oh shit, Im so sorry, It was an accident" What you actually saying is "I just hit this guy on purpose"
Kinda fucked up. Especially when you get to court and try to claim it really was an accident.
If you ever do get you hands on a copy of the Law Dictionary the very first word you should look up is PERSON
Blacks Law Dictionary redefines the word Person to mean - A corporate body or entity
This is where they screw you. When you born your parents assume they are obliged to register their kid with the government. The second they accept and register that child its no longer their kid but a corporate body of the government. You are assigned a Birth certificate with a number on it, the government actually collects money every year on your behalf because of that number.
Basically once you "choose" to register with the government, and apply for a SIN you become a corporate body of the government. You are an agent of the governemt, you pay taxes, you technically work for the government.
Law hierarchy puts God above the People (you and me) and the People above their Government. Now this is where they fuck you. Once you become an agent of the government you become EQUAL with any government agent, and you become obliged to follow any laws of their goverment society.
LostInSpace...
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Excellent info BC, that really got my brain ticking over. I'm going to go and have a look at these so called laws, acts and statutes. Like you said before knowledge is power.
BCtrippin
Well-Known Member
ThinkFree: The Magnificent Deception
and ThinkFree: Bursting Bubbles of Government Deception
Both are available on GoogleVideo. Bursting bubbles is a bit older, but I liked it a lot because it has a lot of very useful info.
Both those movies are over an hour long. If you want to get an idea of what he's all about this is one of my Favorite clips of Robert-A Mendard schooling some dude over the phone.
Its only 10 min.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=HiR4-87N0Pc
LostInSpace...
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LMAO I just found out that in Australia we have NO Bill of Rights and we are the only democracy to have NO comprehensive Human Rights protections? I know that's not really funny but I'm still sorta in shock, how the hell does the government get away with that?
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Even though Australia has signed all five international treaties that make up the the International Bill of Human Rights, none of these treaties are legally binding in Australia. Nor is there is a Bill of Rights in the Australian Constitution. This means that the fundamental rights and freedoms of everyone living in Australia are not protected by the law.
Anyways if anyone is interested in more info have a look here- http://www.nswccl.org.au/issues/bill_of_rights/australia.php
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Even though Australia has signed all five international treaties that make up the the International Bill of Human Rights, none of these treaties are legally binding in Australia. Nor is there is a Bill of Rights in the Australian Constitution. This means that the fundamental rights and freedoms of everyone living in Australia are not protected by the law.
Anyways if anyone is interested in more info have a look here- http://www.nswccl.org.au/issues/bill_of_rights/australia.php
BCtrippin
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Thats pretty weird.
So what does that mean for the citizens of Australia? You basically have no legaly binding rights or freedoms?
Does that mean at any time anyone in Australia can be enslaved by the Monarchy if they really wanted to?
You should check out The Empire of The City. Its like 5 hours long but its pretty crazy and basically explains who really runs the world. The Banksters and secret societies who control religion, the economy, and the Armies of the world.