Guitars

leftyguitar

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If you really want a V, then get one. You can play them in a sitting position just fine.

Acoustics will build up your finger strength faster but if you have no interest in playing acoustic songs then you won't enjoy learning to play on one.

I personally think buying the most expensive guitar you can afford is horrible advice.

Give the Jackson King V line a look, they have multiple models within your price range and still have money left for an amp and lessons.
What would I know. I'm just a professional musician.
 

torontoke

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If your buying it for rocksmith then the metal sound isnt a primary deciding factor. Rocksmith has all kinds of tone effects and everything else. I use my acoustic for rocksmith cus its more comfortable to sit with and i play alot of tool and heavier stuff and u cant tell its not an electric.
V's are cool when your standing but are almost useless otherwise.
My friend plays a seven string ibanez that sounds amazing and i think u could get one of those for under a grand.
I agree buying a good guitar that maintains its resale value makes sense in case he doesn't enjoy it or regrets it later.
 

Blue Wizard

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If your buying it for rocksmith then the metal sound isnt a primary deciding factor. Rocksmith has all kinds of tone effects and everything else. I use my acoustic for rocksmith cus its more comfortable to sit with and i play alot of tool and heavier stuff and u cant tell its not an electric.
I can't get rocksmith to work properly anymore, it's like my cable is broken or something. It was working fine then the next time I tried it it wasn't picking up my guitar. I tried both of mine and my bass and it won't pick anything up anymore.
 

torontoke

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I found my cable on Craigslist for like $10. I use the same cable to plug into my laptop too. But the cables aren't that high quality
 

Blue Wizard

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I found my cable on Craigslist for like $10. I use the same cable to plug into my laptop too. But the cables aren't that high quality
I might check ebay or something sometime, I don't have anything to play it with right now except a cheap first act I got at a garage sale for $15 and fixed. I sold off the other guitar and my bass is messed up.
 

torontoke

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I might check ebay or something sometime, I don't have anything to play it with right now except a cheap first act I got at a garage sale for $15 and fixed. I sold off the other guitar and my bass is messed up.
Just make sure it's a real rock smith cable. I bought one from a guitar shop for 50$ but it wouldn't work for my Xbox. Said get a real cable. U could try changing just the end piece
 

charface

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What would I know. I'm just a professional musician.
Thats great advice.
I would rather have a shit guitar with an ok amp as long as I could afford lessons.
I was self taught, played for decades but my teacher went to college, gigs constantly, does studio work.
He is a jazz nerd and is currently playing for tommy tu-tone among others
I list all of that because even though he has done all of that i think he charges about 25 per half hour to most people.
In that half hour He easily loads me up with as much as I can take.
There is no situation I can pose to him that can not respond to with real world advice.

There are tons of shitty teachers so finding the right one is way harder than finding a decent rig.

Of course you do not need lessons but consider this.

I have never said damn I wish I dint know so much about music and
neither has anyone else that Im aware of.


Here is my buddy jump to 3:17 if you hate the song and check out this improvised solo.
Point is.
He can make any guitar sound good because he invested in himself.

Good luck either way.
 

TheHermit

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There are a lot of good deals to be found on craigslist. I just picked up a decent hollow body for 120 about a week ago. It had been a while since I played since my other guitar is broke and I can't feel my fingertips on my left hand when I am typing right now.
 

Thor_

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If your buying it for rocksmith then the metal sound isnt a primary deciding factor. Rocksmith has all kinds of tone effects and everything else. I use my acoustic for rocksmith cus its more comfortable to sit with and i play alot of tool and heavier stuff and u cant tell its not an electric.
V's are cool when your standing but are almost useless otherwise.
My friend plays a seven string ibanez that sounds amazing and i think u could get one of those for under a grand.
I agree buying a good guitar that maintains its resale value makes sense in case he doesn't enjoy it or regrets it later.
As right as you probably are, rocksmith will not be just for playing but teaching also. call it the first hurdle, it's there to teach me basics and in the hope that I enjoy it. If so then getting an amp can be bought at a later date.

I found a guitar I liked which was a v. Anyways the guy made me laugh. Was selling it for 250 and 370 bin. Not bad but wouldn't post. Didn't sell, I wake up to and he resisted for 300 and 500bin. How does that even make sense.
 

Thor_

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Your not the only musician but feel free to take it personal. I don't give a fuck.
Well I think you are both right. I one hand buying a more expensive guitar could be better. You could enjoy it more and no need to upgrade as soon. On the other hand you could buy mediocre equipment across the board and get lessons.

In this case £500 is just a guitar budget. Amps and so on I can get as and when needed. A cheap good guitar is a good option because cheaper guitars and in demand over more expensive ones. So a £200+ guitar is harder to sell. Bc rich bronze sell non stop but a £500+ (retail price) Jackson doesn't. Although the one in question, in red. Looks f*king amazing.

I also agree that either a v or normal guitar can be used sat down. It's like motorbikes, some like to sit forward and some like to sit straight up. I have used my hornet once or twice in 6 months because I prefer my Ducati. It's not the speed because if anything the hornet is faster overall but it's the position.

After watching some vids and a fair amount of air guitar lol. But next week I know for sure. Emailed a guitar company asking if I could try out some guitars but didn't want to test them. Just for position and they said they will set me some up.

I have seen 2 guitars that I like and if I enjoy rocksmith then I'm going to buy both.

Jackson pdx-2 in red ( around £200 second hand )

Esp ltd delux ec1000 ( under £400 second hand )



 

sunni

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Staff member
I've personally always loved epiphone
But I have an acoustic myself it's a shit little no named brand it was my first guitar and I really enjoyed playing it I've had it since I was 16 it's not worth much but it's a lefty guitar and my mom bought it for me
 

charface

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this debate over shape is critical.
I have had most shape, and models.
I wanted a les paul my whole life but heard they were heavy and awkward
if you sit and dont use a strap.
I said, "who gives a shit"
Then I sold it a few years later at a loss because, well it was awkard and heavy.
I would consider what style ill be playing mostly or do I want to dabble in everything.
Fretboard radius and neck radius are my biggies.
I have a flat radius fretboard on the Jackson and a thin neck.
The strat has the c shape neck with a more round radius.

You can adjust to anything but you will probably in time have prefrences of which guitar
you will play and when. Again no rules, all one needs is an acoustic and you are
still making music.

here is a lol for you.

I play my electric unplugged in bed constantly.
No shirt on.
Because the finish sticks the guitar to my tummy so even if i let go
it stays perfectly in the position I prefer.

The shape, weight, radius, pickup configuration etc.
Are all important evntually.

The other thing is take intunation, make sure its in or life sucks and you have to use vibrato
constantly to hide the fact that you will be out of tune

And dont get me started about fit and finish.
Show me a brand new 700 usd guitar with inlay and lots of binding and I promise its horrible looking. Its called a file motherfucker! Do you have one?

I like work horses,
My fat strat and my 80's Jackson
I can cover any style with those
 
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Glaucoma

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I have a good amount of experience here, and I agree that shape is very important. Stuff like flying V's are for the stage. Stuff like a Strat is for plucking on the couch while you watch TV.

I rarely plug in my electric unless there is another instrument involved.

I would suggest that the OP get a cheap strat style and don't worry about fucking it up. I wouldn't pay more than 250. Honestly, for a new player.. the harder it is to play when you first pick it up, the better. Strat styles use a longer scale, which means the strings have to have more tension and the frets are further apart. This requires more finger strength to fret the note. It really helps build finger strength and dexterity. They also sort of cover up slight mistakes. Something like a Les Paul is shorter, and feels slinkier. Easy to play, but easy to slip on, too. Technique becomes much more important. I've seen it discourage new players.

Expensive guitars come with their own special concerns. You really should have a hard case. Also, a lot of new players don't always know the finer points of care/making adjustments and can accidentally cause damage.

If you want to be good, you have to put in the time. I started when I was young and had the extra time. I spent at least 4 hours a day for 2-3 years before I felt confident. Save the big purchases for when you know how to select the finest guitars off the wall. There is more to it than just trying to play it. It's like buying a used car, there are specific points you really need to inspect closely when you are shelling out a lot of money.
 

charface

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Honestly new players have it made today.
I started roughly forever ago and everything was expensive.

Here is the great news.
If you handed me 300 cash today by tomorrow I could bring
you a used panwshop jackon type strat looking double coil pickups int the bridge having metal coming out yer ears guitar
that plays and sounds every bit as good as a new 600 dollar guitar.
I would also bring a little used ebay line 6 amp with built in effects something or other.

Then we could take the rest of that cash and throw it at strippers.

Fender squire strat, etc....

I would not consider a tube amp until you are fully aware of how fucking loud they get before that natural
breakup occurs. You know the one that makes you pee a little.

But if you dont get one eventually I'll unlike all your posts.

Another thing, as a new player i would look at something like an rp200 pedal
If you get an amp without effects. Actually I would anyway so you have the built in drums, tuner and expression
peddle. They are almost free and sound good.

As a fairly experienced player I wouldnt need any more than what I have mentioned
to play in a garage storage unit or whatever the kids are doing these days

Point being.
Fuck you guys, strings used to be like 21 bucks a set and you had to start on a broken acoustic
because your whore mom spent most of her money on food.

Suck it.
Mic drop!!!
 
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