Guerilla growing - Suitable plot? (pictures included)

hi,

pretty much as title says.

life (plant life) is thriving where i want to place some plants, is that a good thing? or a bad thing?

these pics aren't great but they give the general idea.

the canopy is nice and open.

Is being close to a small stream a good thing? or could it cause problems?

Thats in a valley- which limits the amount of light the plants can get down there. That area would probably be sufficient for a plant in veg stage, but I have doubts that there would be enough light to support a plant in full flower. The reason that everything is thriving there is because of the stream- if you will be watering your plant regularly, it wouldnt make a difference to you if you planted in a wet or dry area. The stream would be of no advantage to you unless you were trying to just "plant and leave em" without checking regularly. Since I assume you plan to take a more hands on approach to your garden, I would try to find a spot on the top of that hill in the picture, maximizing the amount of light that the plant recieves each day.

The higher up you can get the plants, the sooner they'll see the sun come up in the morning. Theyll be the first thing the sun touches in the morning, and if you place them on a south facing slope, theyll be the last thing the sun touches in the evening.

As they say... Mo' Light, Mo' Weed!

cheers for taking your time for that detailed response!

i'll + rep to that!

yea, light is my main issue. i live near so many hills, i was walking on them earlier and i thought right then "they have to be on a hill". just finding one that is off the beaten track is going to take some research. but it's do-able.

thanks

find it on if north america on a north facing hill i believe its that. cut down a few trees were they would get direct full sun around 12-3. And impartial sun for 5 hours some rays. use those spings as a watering source. Good mountain water

I may be in the minority here, but I'm 100% against cutting down trees to get more light in the area. ESPECIALLY when it's guerilla growing. But, I've grown up with the Outdoor Code: leave only footprints, take only pictures ... I've since updated to: Leave as few footprints as possible, take no incriminating pictures ....

haha, anyway, If I were you I'd look for an area that has naturally downed trees. It happens here all the time. Lightening it's one tree, it falls on another, and like dominoes several trees go down. Not only does it open up the canopy, but several fallen logs create a somewhat "wall" effect for cover. Helpful, although not by itself.

Your low bushes appear to be only like ivy, ground cover. Ivy thrives in moderate to low light areas. Which doesn't mean that your plants would thrive there anyway. Mimic nature. When one tree falls, it opens up the canopy so other plants can grow there, that's where you want to be.

I don't know about your area, but hikers, birdwatchers, and hunters like to follow streams into an area. That is why I like to avoid them, or go further away from them than your conscious would like you to.

Also try to plant close to sticker bushes, thorn bushes, ect. No one likes to travel through them to find out what's on the other side.

Hope that helps.

South Texas said:

I LOVE that spot... but these people are right. The lack of sun would cause problems. Planting on a "North Facing Hill" ?? Are you sure it isn't a South Facing Hill?
Put duct tape on the soles of your shoes to not leave your particular foot print. I'm going to drag limbs close by my area, as a line-of-sight barrier, but won't block the sun. Also, piled limbs blocking the deer trail close by, to divert the traffic.
I wish you would drop some bag seed around the creek, just for experiment. It would be interesting. Good luck.

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Not bad ideas South Texas. I love seeing your posts, always inspiring.

Moccasins work better than duct tape. It's hard to see your foot prints, let alone get an actual "size". But that depends on what's in the area. Lots of sharp dangerous things and moccasins don't go very well together.

Be careful not to pile up trees, limbs, brush in a noticeable pile. If I was walking through the woods and saw a downed tree I would keep walking. If I saw a pile of twigs, I would say WTF and come closer to see who would put that there, and why. But I'm an inquisitive person. Maybe everyone else isn't like me.

cheers guys! there's some good info there

i spent a few hours today by motorbike and on foot visiting various places that i thought would be good.

Will altitude have much effect? i found some areas on top of hills that will have sun from the second the sun rises to the second it sets, the only thing is that it's quite high.

could that be troublesome?

Oh yeah, it's the common sense application people. Dudes, I found a fucking gully to plant in. It's about 4' Ft. deep, 6' ft. across, & 20 ft. long. Full sun from 11 AM to 7 PM, then dappled. Last recorded rain was a big ordeal, something about an Ark & Animals.... So, flash flood is no prob, unless it's the end of the world. Going to fill the truck up with mushroom compost & dump it in the gully, add lots of molasses, seaweed, Epsom salt, cornmeal, greensand & microbes. With Moccasins, if I can catch some, a rain dance may be in order. Yeah, that'll look really interesting, some Nut dancing in the woods. Too much weed. This "soil" will cook for about 3 months prior to planting. Transporting the Babies for Summer Camp isn't too hard for me. LOL.

Nice truck, I thought the reflection of the tree was actually a sticker on your back windshield. Haha.

Do you plant straight in the ground, or do you stick with containers the whole way?

How do you prep the soil, other than what you said in the last post?

Simple, good questions, complicated answer. In the spirit of Readers Digest, Never plant in pots if not needed. If so, if you can carry them, they are too small, for big dogs. I done a 3 part post in the outdoor sect, called something about "Any Southern Growers out there" It's all about making up soil, the way I do it. Check it out.

WhatWouldBobDo? said:

Nice truck, I thought the reflection of the tree was actually a sticker on your back windshield. Haha.

Do you plant straight in the ground, or do you stick with containers the whole way?

How do you prep the soil, other than what you said in the last post?

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Is it a south facing slope you are supposed to plant on? Can anyone explain the reasoning behind that?

South Texas said:

Simple, good questions, complicated answer. In the spirit of Readers Digest, Never plant in pots if not needed. If so, if you can carry them, they are too small, for big dogs. I done a 3 part post in the outdoor sect, called something about "Any Southern Growers out there" It's all about making up soil, the way I do it. Check it out.

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Will do.

Kick ass plant, how'd you get that?

In the northern hemisphere, a southern facing slope is ideal for maximum light during the day. Not a north facing slope.

deeyeff said:

Is it a south facing slope you are supposed to plant on? Can anyone explain the reasoning behind that?

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A south facing slope in the northern hemisphere will attract the maximum light throughout the summer. Sun rises in the east, goes overhead, then sets in the west. When the fall starts to come, the sun will not go as high in the sky. It will be in a more southern location, even at noon.

If he was in the southern hemisphere it would be too late to start growing outdoors, right?

Yeah, I'm in the North, Location: Washington as it says on my profile. Thanks for the explanation. So I don't think I will be able to find a suitable south-facing hill, is the second best a West facing hill? Because afternoon sun is supposed to be best, right?

If south facing isn't an option, try to find a spot that has the MOST south facing. If it's facing like south west, that's fine, or south east is good too. I would avoid a spot that only has access to WEST sky only. I would say the same thing about any land only being exposed to east sky.

Each day, the sun slips from the south, to the north. The sun will not be directly overhead- (east & west), until the mid-summer. Until then, the sun will be coming from the southeast, south & southwest. If you have NO sunlight from the south, you are at a serious handicap until mid summer. But don't underestimate the benefit of indirect sunlight. Check again for south exposure.