GrowLab 80 - G13 Pineapple Express ... [200w T5 veg / 400w HPS flower]

Sr. Verde

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Yeah some people just have decent water, some have shitty.. Maybe your water isn't as bad as you think? The water in my area is notoriously terrible, the public water at least. Full of dust and dirt and grime.. Though I am using a brita filter on the tap.. It doesn't do a whole lot but it does remove the flouride, and chlorene.. The water still comes off the tap at 7.8, which is like a full pH above optimal level, and I think it throws the soil out of wack, and the nutes in the water just don't do well... So I find pHing the water, and flushing every month and a half or so keeps the roots and soil really healthy and the foliage responds to that..


You might have hard water but you might have a decent pH? Ever measure your water off the tap?
 

Matchbox

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Yeah some people just have decent water, some have shitty.. Maybe your water isn't as bad as you think? The water in my area is notoriously terrible, the public water at least. Full of dust and dirt and grime.. Though I am using a brita filter on the tap.. It doesn't do a whole lot but it does remove the flouride, and chlorene.. The water still comes off the tap at 7.8, which is like a full pH above optimal level, and I think it throws the soil out of wack, and the nutes in the water just don't do well... So I find pHing the water, and flushing every month and a half or so keeps the roots and soil really healthy and the foliage responds to that..


You might have hard water but you might have a decent pH? Ever measure your water off the tap?
Can't say I have actually, I don't have any meters... going into hydro with no meters... sounds like a plan lol XD

Keep up the good work anyways, your other grows looked damn ridiculous so I'm sure the PE will treat you nice, she's a beast for nutes!
 

Sr. Verde

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Day 10 today... The soil was pretty dry... Watered with ___ /gal @ pH 6.6

8mL bioweed (kelp)
3.5mL Fox Farms Grow Big
4mL CalMag

Also added an additional 100w t5... So we are up to 200w now, 100w over each plant.

#1


#2


Now lets watch them blow up :). I love adding kelp to the rootzone of a cannabis plant thats about to take off.. It just grows so dang fast. & I'm really excited as you folks tout this as an agressive vegger :weed:..



I will be topping these ladies at the first node. Unless someone recommends to not do so with the Pineapple Express? I'm pretty sure I heard it responds well to topping..
 

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Someguy15

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Day 10 today... The soil was pretty dry... Watered with ___ /gal @ pH 6.6

8mL bioweed (kelp)
3.5mL Fox Farms Grow Big
4mL CalMag

Also added an additional 100w t5... So we are up to 200w now, 100w over each plant.

#1


#2


Now lets watch them blow up :). I love adding kelp to the rootzone of a cannabis plant thats about to take off.. It just grows so dang fast. & I'm really excited as you folks tout this as an agressive vegger :weed:..



I will be topping these ladies at the first node. Unless someone recommends to not do so with the Pineapple Express? I'm pretty sure I heard it responds well to topping..
It does respond well to topping, but I'd wait for the third node, maybe fourth. She's naturally pretty bushy so there's no need to rush it and stunt growth. On my clones I usually don't even top them that's how much they bush. Others like blue mistic require double topping and LST to accomplish the same shape.
 

Matchbox

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I will be topping these ladies at the first node. Unless someone recommends to not do so with the Pineapple Express? I'm pretty sure I heard it responds well to topping..
Do the uncle ben's top for 4 main colas makes her ridonkulous XD but yes responds well (had a mutant one that I topped for 4 main colas and got 7!)
 

Sr. Verde

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Hmm, I've always had good results for two main tops, with training letting the middle tops come up through.

I have another 9 pineapple express seeds... I can try a few of those with four nodes... but these three we will do two :) Also, I'm trying to rush these girls - try not to take too much time.... and get onto some NEW genetics... I'm trying to get these girls chopped within the next 70-80 days.


& Yes I was not topping today, I'm waiting for the new growth on that branch to start moving along before I remove the upper growth... Me and uncle ben top the same :)
 

Sr. Verde

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IDK

I forgot. :lol:

I need to buy fresh nutes too, the big bloom is solidifying on me, and I'm mostly out of all of them... Will just use the old lumpy nutes on my peppers and blueberries..
 

Sr. Verde

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Day 12


Topped them early in the AM


The kelp did them well so far, the new nodes will likely be pretty fat by like day 16.. Yes they are small as most of you will say :mrgreen: but they'll be fine just watch. They should have a decent root structure now.... They will grow faster too. this is how i top :lol:




200w fluorescent..
 

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C.Indica

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I know I took a lot of heat on my pruning thread,
but you could have just cut the branches out, and left the fan leaves behind for the photosynthesis.
 

Sr. Verde

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i just remove it all... I don't worry too much about so few leaves.. I'm more worried about the growth auxin being redistributed.. Leaves grow back fast :)
 

Someguy15

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i just remove it all... I don't worry too much about so few leaves.. I'm more worried about the growth auxin being redistributed.. Leaves grow back fast :)
Auxin is produced by the growth tip. Removing only the tip will accomplish what you want without cutting all sugar production to the roots. Yes they will recover, but removing a shitload of growth isn't helpful in any way.
 

Sr. Verde

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Auxin is produced by the growth tip. Removing only the tip will accomplish what you want without cutting all sugar production to the roots. Yes they will recover, but removing a shitload of growth isn't helpful in any way.

But if the leaves are attached to the stalk, which is above the first true node... how would I remove it without affecting fan leaves..

Unless you are talking about pinching, instead of completely removing the growth? Which would be FIMMING, instead of topping.. Which I don't practice..

I don't know I just took 6 dabs.. :lol:
 

Sr. Verde

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Day 16...



Ladies are starting to come out of the stress and thrive again.. Should be growing some really nice foliage this week..

Will be watering with some minor nutes and a good dose of kelp. Going to let them veg out for a bit then transfer to their final pots.
 

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C.Indica

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Double that, rediculous recovery.
My plants stall for days when I do that shit.

You take a very small pair of scissors,or a razor blade,
and remove the "branches" that you don't want, while leaving behind it'scorresponding leaf.

If you remove all growth points above what you want, it won't create new ones out of nowhere.

With the exception of very large tree like plants, and I have no idea why or how they create new branches out of nowhere.
 

Someguy15

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But if the leaves are attached to the stalk, which is above the first true node... how would I remove it without affecting fan leaves..

Unless you are talking about pinching, instead of completely removing the growth? Which would be FIMMING, instead of topping.. Which I don't practice..

I don't know I just took 6 dabs.. :lol:
This method @ 5mins. You remove the tip and leave the leaves. lol kinda a tongue twister.

[video=youtube;KgosxsvGpeE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgosxsvGpeE[/video]
 

Sr. Verde

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Double that, rediculous recovery.
My plants stall for days when I do that shit.

You take a very small pair of scissors,or a razor blade,
and remove the "branches" that you don't want, while leaving behind it'scorresponding leaf.

If you remove all growth points above what you want, it won't create new ones out of nowhere.

With the exception of very large tree like plants, and I have no idea why or how they create new branches out of nowhere.

Ridiculous recovery? I felt it was a little slow.. Especially #2. But worth it none the less.. but that's topping for you.. high stress training..


As far as the recovery, it's all in the kelp! I'm waking up a little early tomorrow to hit em with the kelp 8). They will love it!
 
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