Growing slow as shit. veg month 2 smalls as fck

Oogsi

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will do probably ,could my soil mix be too hot without it showing signs of burn resulting in it being stunted? i keep going back to check date bean popped and sure wnough march12th tap root popped, probably broke ground a day later
Have you checked your soil and water ph
 

Oogsi

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its as close to pure organic i as could so i dont ph at all, last grows i use to though
It doesn’t matter if it’s organic I have tested organic soil that looked good and smelled better and it came out purple on my pH test which means it’s too alkaline , once you rule out one possibility you can figure out what’s happened with your plant
 

Oogsi

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Get a real fucking light and you'll grow real fucking plants.

Next case.
He should build an LED with cree or cobs units , look up growmau5 on YouTube that bloke is getting like over 1.5g per watt with his home made LED lighting , definitely worth checking out
 

gjs4786

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There is definitely something going on with the plant/soil chemistry here that isn't normal. Years ago, when I was still a teenager, I ran into this. Plant didn't show any obvious signs of anything being wrong, foliage was green, no visual cues whatsoever. It was just flat out dormant. I never did get to the bottom of what the issue was, but I know it wasn't the genetics, as they were premium beans, jack herer crossed with something.

My gut tells me there's a nutrient lockout due to an unfavorable pH. My reasoning is...with the growth stunted to such an extent, there's no need for the plant to use what it already has available to it. Thing is, you might be tempted to kind of sweep her under the rug, but unless you diagnose that plant, you are putting it in the hands of chance and chance alone when it comes to future grows. You really want to figure out what's going on here, it's in your best interest.

If for some reason you just can't, or refuse to get a pH pen to probe the cause, add some dolomite lime (or some other amendment that has about a 7.0pH) to the topsoil and flush it with a bunch of distilled water to try and neutralize the pH of the soil. Then give her a week and see what she does. If you see positive results you know for sure the pH was either too high or too low. Keep in mind, it takes a lot of water to bring pH levels back to where they need to be, and it isn't something that should be adjusted too much at one time. If you had a pH pen, or even test strips, you would know if you needed to go up or down.

Another thing you might try, in combination with the above mentioned, is transplant to a pot of the same size, only add 20-30% perlite to the mix to provide for better aeration of the soil. The roots may be struggling to really thrive the way they need to if your soil is too compacted.
 

lungbutter

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looks like it doesnt like that compost for whatever reason. personally i would take a cut and try it in another medium, or maybe shake the compost off and replant if possible.
 

john wishmyer

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There is definitely something going on with the plant/soil chemistry here that isn't normal. Years ago, when I was still a teenager, I ran into this. Plant didn't show any obvious signs of anything being wrong, foliage was green, no visual cues whatsoever. It was just flat out dormant. I never did get to the bottom of what the issue was, but I know it wasn't the genetics, as they were premium beans, jack herer crossed with something.

My gut tells me there's a nutrient lockout due to an unfavorable pH. My reasoning is...with the growth stunted to such an extent, there's no need for the plant to use what it already has available to it. Thing is, you might be tempted to kind of sweep her under the rug, but unless you diagnose that plant, you are putting it in the hands of chance and chance alone when it comes to future grows. You really want to figure out what's going on here, it's in your best interest.

If for some reason you just can't, or refuse to get a pH pen to probe the cause, add some dolomite lime (or some other amendment that has about a 7.0pH) to the topsoil and flush it with a bunch of distilled water to try and neutralize the pH of the soil. Then give her a week and see what she does. If you see positive results you know for sure the pH was either too high or too low. Keep in mind, it takes a lot of water to bring pH levels back to where they need to be, and it isn't something that should be adjusted too much at one time. If you had a pH pen, or even test strips, you would know if you needed to go up or down.

Another thing you might try, in combination with the above mentioned, is transplant to a pot of the same size, only add 20-30% perlite to the mix to provide for better aeration of the soil. The roots may be struggling to really thrive the way they need to if your soil is too compacted.
i have a pen going to run some water through it n see how she does, im still leaning toward genetics or something though man the rest of my plants are in pretty decent shape with same variables, soil mix , no ph, water source and so on. also the mix is pretty heavily perlited just cant tell due to i under filled the pot when i transplanted her and worked more ffof into the top. the sites having a tweak or something but ill post some photos to the other plants i have for reference when i can
 

gjs4786

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i have a pen going to run some water through it n see how she does, im still leaning toward genetics or something though man the rest of my plants are in pretty decent shape with same variables, soil mix , no ph, water source and so on. also the mix is pretty heavily perlited just cant tell due to i under filled the pot when i transplanted her and worked more ffof into the top. the sites having a tweak or something but ill post some photos to the other plants i have for reference when i can
Cool. If that's genetics though at 2 months, you need to keep it as a mom and give some clones to some decent breeders lol. Keep us posted.
 

john wishmyer

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Cool. If that's genetics though at 2 months, you need to keep it as a mom and give some clones to some decent breeders lol. Keep us posted.
been looking a little into the strain and ive found other instances where veg time was extremely slow. not saying me n other people have the same genes, ect but could be a answer. any way went ahead n ran a gallon of phd water 6.3 wish i could post photos shes looking kinda perky also topped her two main nodes as well
 

gjs4786

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been looking a little into the strain and ive found other instances where veg time was extremely slow. not saying me n other people have the same genes, ect but could be a answer. any way went ahead n ran a gallon of phd water 6.3 wish i could post photos shes looking kinda perky also topped her two main nodes as well
Ahh, thought it was bag seed. What strain is it? At 2 months, the pictures you've shown, she/it is obviously stunted bro. That's not genetics. The word going around, is a proper flush is 2-3 gallons of water per gallon of container. So that'd be 4-6 gallons of water I think. It's in a 2 gallon container still, right? That's over the course of a couple hours.

Keep in mind, when you top a plant that small, it's going to slow down because it's going to put its energy into healing the topped sites. Still doesn't come close to accounting for a plant that size having 2 months, though.
 

john wishmyer

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Ahh, thought it was bag seed. What strain is it? At 2 months, the pictures you've shown, she/it is obviously stunted bro. That's not genetics. The word going around, is a proper flush is 2-3 gallons of water per gallon of container. So that'd be 4-6 gallons of water I think. It's in a 2 gallon container still, right? That's over the course of a couple hours.

Keep in mind, when you top a plant that small, it's going to slow down because it's going to put its energy into healing the topped sites. Still doesn't come close to accounting for a plant that size having 2 months, though.
its a dosi do bagseed and yeah i feel it brother going to do that and see what happeneds will post more photos when change occurs if not ill just let her do her thing
 
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