Growing In The Loft In The UK

hi ghd.
hope your right, and i hope we dont have a winter like last year, god it was so cold, did a lot of damage to the car, burst pipes, cracked radiator, even a cracked windscreen. (didnt help the fact the wife poured a kettle full of boiling water on it to defrost it) doh....
but i got my own back when i knocked paint on to her shoe rack when i was painting.£400 worth of shoes knackerd, good job we are insured. lol

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ghb said:

the joys of marriage.......

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tell me about it.....
anyway decided to get some black and white plastic and put this over the insulation (somehow) it will tidy it up abit and its cheap..
me thinks about march i will do 20 plants but not in the tents so i can stop for the summer and restart in september and i am thinking of doing 20 differnt strains then i have all summer to try them out. plus because its all for me i dont have to buy any contaminated weed off the streets, thus fueling the criminals......
just had a thought????
if i get done for growing for my own personal use i am classed as a criminal, and if i get caught for growing for profit i am still a criminal..........
hmm interesting thought lol

rollingrock said:

tell me about it.....
anyway decided to get some black and white plastic and put this over the insulation (somehow) it will tidy it up abit and its cheap..
me thinks about march i will do 20 plants but not in the tents so i can stop for the summer and restart in september and i am thinking of doing 20 differnt strains then i have all summer to try them out. plus because its all for me i dont have to buy any contaminated weed off the streets, thus fueling the criminals......
just had a thought????
if i get done for growing for my own personal use i am classed as a criminal, and if i get caught for growing for profit i am still a criminal..........
hmm interesting thought lol

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i know mate it is bollocks, they need to hurry up and sort it out so we can grow for our own pleasure.

as for growing 20 different strains i wouldn't really recommend it, you can have loads of problems doing multi strain grows and it is a full time job looking after them.
i'm currently doing 7 different ones and will have my hands full trying to keep the canopy even so that one plant doesn't over take all the others and steal their light. you also have to take into account that different strains need different levels of care and nutrients, some respond better to different growing methods etc, it can take you several crops of the same strain to dial in the perfect method, for example how much nutes, how long to flower, what training method to use, how long to veg, feeding cycles and so on. i have been feeding my plant every 3 days in the coco, i left it 4 days and yesterday when i checked on them the lemon skunk was all droopy and starving and the other 3 varieties were all happy and healthy, this tells me that the lemon skunk requires more nutes and has thirsty roots.

ghb said:

i know mate it is bollocks, they need to hurry up and sort it out so we can grow for our own pleasure.

as for growing 20 different strains i wouldn't really recommend it, you can have loads of problems doing multi strain grows and it is a full time job looking after them.
i'm currently doing 7 different ones and will have my hands full trying to keep the canopy even so that one plant doesn't over take all the others and steal their light. you also have to take into account that different strains need different levels of care and nutrients, some respond better to different growing methods etc, it can take you several crops of the same strain to dial in the perfect method, for example how much nutes, how long to flower, what training method to use, how long to veg, feeding cycles and so on. i have been feeding my plant every 3 days in the coco, i left it 4 days and yesterday when i checked on them the lemon skunk was all droopy and starving and the other 3 varieties were all happy and healthy, this tells me that the lemon skunk requires more nutes and has thirsty roots.

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i have thought about all the problems like you said and gunna think some more, maybe a few strains and double up on each strain i.e...
bigbud x2
white widow x2
lemon haze x2
or even x3 or 4 of a few strains.

loft is sitting at a nice 68 degrese at the moment lights off without heater on.
i hate frosts but in a way would like a good sharp frost to test the loft (and kill the cold and flu bugs), dont want to be the only one without frost on the roof do i

rollingrock said:

i have thought about all the problems like you said and gunna think some more, maybe a few strains and double up on each strain i.e...
bigbud x2
white widow x2
lemon haze x2
or even x3 or 4 of a few strains.

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that sounds like an idea, everyone loves a bit of variety myself included, just keep an even canopy and you'll be on to a winner

rollingrock said:

loft is sitting at a nice 68 degrese at the moment lights off without heater on.
i hate frosts but in a way would like a good sharp frost to test the loft (and kill the cold and flu bugs), dont want to be the only one without frost on the roof do i

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nice temps, as i said earlier you will be fine until the temps are below 0 for extended periods, then you will need to be running the heater for an hour before and after lights come on. as for the frost it is a dead give away when both next door houses have frosty roofs and yours is clear. cross that bridge when you come to it

what i have done is put the flowering tent to the back of the loft against the end wall and sealed the out take duct into the chimney (which in turn throws any unwanted heat into there) plus the boiler and gas fire heat goes there as well, (thats why i sealed it in the brick work) to stop fumes entering the loft space, as its against this wall any heat lost through the roof SHOULD be near the chimny stack, and thats the first place frost melts on roofs (in my own observasions any how).
not to worried about the veg tent as there only cfl's and heat from them is not much.

rollingrock said:

what i have done is put the flowering tent to the back of the loft against the end wall and sealed the out take duct into the chimney (which in turn throws any unwanted heat into there) plus the boiler and gas fire heat goes there as well, (thats why i sealed it in the brick work) to stop fumes entering the loft space, as its against this wall any heat lost through the roof SHOULD be near the chimny stack, and thats the first place frost melts on roofs (in my own observasions any how).
not to worried about the veg tent as there only cfl's and heat from them is not much.

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sounds kosher

i will post a pick up later, it looks like batmans cave, and i'm not jokeing.
thats why i need to fix some b/w plastic on there but god knows how as its so bulky now.
any ideas

pics are the answer to my question about your question.

ghb said:

pics are the answer to my question about your question.

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lol, i will post the pic later and hopefully you can give me the answear to my question which is awaiting your answear to my question??

rollingrock said:

never heard of useing lead before??? that would cost a furtune and would weigh a ton on the roof.
i dont think 2x 250w cfl's and one 250w hps light would give off enough heat for them to detect??? but tips is what i am after
thought tinfoil was a good reflecter of uv heat

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shit the insulation in the area i stay in is all really bad,shit i even had a "goverment grant" leaflet shit thriugh my door, this whole neighbour hood just leaks heat from the roof,as for lead,are you mental?sounds perfect what you have.unless your outside a build up area ,and we get snow like last year ,get a ladder and clear the snow off your roof and your neighbours if you have any,to get the snow off the roof to stop rones,gutters,down pipes etc from getting damaged.doing your bit for the community and all that,your on it rolling one,keep at it.paying for shit weed blows.the dutch should have a tv show.

rollingrock said:

i have thought about all the problems like you said and gunna think some more, maybe a few strains and double up on each strain i.e...
bigbud x2
white widow x2
lemon haze x2
or even x3 or 4 of a few strains.

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get white russian.i swear its the shit.my first grow,its the best shit i ever smoked.

heres a look at the white russian,and it will give you an idea of the tent size for 3 plants at 32 inch,unless you get clones it breaks your heart i found a few went hemaf after a bit of hard work,but shit,it aint science just gives ud=s something to look forward too!it getting well cold ,do you guys think a small 450 w oil filled would cost that mush to run to keep it warm as said before just a nise blanket i think would work,and were am from were not far o 0c give it 3 weks am needing 7 to be able to have a green xmas........

am no expert but run with 6 they all sound tast,if they all make it they should see you thrugh to spring were it warms up,again with advice from people its not that hard,i was taught how to clone recently and thought there would be a lot more to it, will stick some pics of my friends project tomo,again,good chat,if only i syaed some where warm and legal........

ginga said:

shit the insulation in the area i stay in is all really bad,shit i even had a "goverment grant" leaflet shit thriugh my door, this whole neighbour hood just leaks heat from the roof,as for lead,are you mental?sounds perfect what you have.unless your outside a build up area ,and we get snow like last year ,get a ladder and clear the snow off your roof and your neighbours if you have any,to get the snow off the roof to stop rones,gutters,down pipes etc from getting damaged.doing your bit for the community and all that,your on it rolling one,keep at it.paying for shit weed blows.the dutch should have a tv show.

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ginga
if you need to insulate your loft take a look at the B&Q website there doing offers on at the minute 5meters long by 1 meter wide 170mm thick insulation for less than £4. it's only a top up sort of insulation though but for what i needed its done the job, looks a mess though but i am happy with it, i will post a pic up soon, as i need advice on how to attach some b/w plastic over the insulation.

ginga said:

View attachment 1246634View attachment 1246633View attachment 1246632heres a look at the white russian,View attachment 1246631and it will give you an idea of the tent size for 3 plants at 32 inch,unless you get clones it breaks your heart i found a few went hemaf after a bit of hard work,but shit,it aint science just gives ud=s something to look forward too!it getting well cold ,do you guys think a small 450 w oil filled would cost that mush to run to keep it warm as said before just a nise blanket i think would work,and were am from were not far o 0c give it 3 weks am needing 7 to be able to have a green xmas........

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ginga, what was the dry weight in the 3rd pic

anyone no how i can attach black and white plastic to this lot
i know its not the best job in the world but it will do, (i think lol)
thats the best pics i can do, as i dont have much more room, i will try and get a couple more up tonight, i am thinking of setting a third tent up for seeds and clones so i can give the veg tent some room i have just got the space for a dr80,.

ginga said:

View attachment 1246634View attachment 1246633View attachment 1246632heres a look at the white russian,View attachment 1246631and it will give you an idea of the tent size for 3 plants at 32 inch,unless you get clones it breaks your heart i found a few went hemaf after a bit of hard work,but shit,it aint science just gives ud=s something to look forward too!it getting well cold ,do you guys think a small 450 w oil filled would cost that mush to run to keep it warm as said before just a nise blanket i think would work,and were am from were not far o 0c give it 3 weks am needing 7 to be able to have a green xmas........

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carn't you get a small tube heater? i think a 1foot one would do it and there only like 80watts.
nice buds by the way