okay these r about a week after they started to change they r getting worse by the day i am running just water temp is 72 the room temp is 74 humidity is 48 i am using t5 lights these new pics r from today please let me know and i have a couple of these systems going and just the tall ones and a couple on the small ones have been hit but not all of them look like this
growing hydro and havein problem please help
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elzorrothefox
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that is a pretty sharp decline, its gotta be a root uptake issue most likely an infection since youre seeing it across all your plants. sorry man
Uncle Ben
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You're dancing around the issue. Cough it up. You changed the nutes to what and at what ppm or frequency? Straight water is not the answer either. Plants can not live without the required essential elements.
No one can "let you know" until you first divulge what YOU did to cause this decline.
UB
No one can "let you know" until you first divulge what YOU did to cause this decline.
UB
UB ~ He said "i am growing in a hydro system everthing was good till i switch them over to flowering"
He's using Botanicare Pro Blend Bloom and started @ 2000ppm.
So he flushed the plants with plain H20 just lower the nute strength & then started to add back to around 800 to 1000ppm.
Earl's probably right about root rot or some pathogen got into his system.
I thought with your 40+ yrs of experience, you would of immediately known what the problem is, but apparently you don't.
He's using Botanicare Pro Blend Bloom and started @ 2000ppm.
So he flushed the plants with plain H20 just lower the nute strength & then started to add back to around 800 to 1000ppm.
Earl's probably right about root rot or some pathogen got into his system.
I thought with your 40+ yrs of experience, you would of immediately known what the problem is, but apparently you don't.
Uncle Ben
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Maybe, maybe not.
BTW, who asked you anyway? Some of us aren't watching his day to day activities first hand, happy you are.
Look ya smart ass clueless kid, you're not privy to a PM he sent me which partially revealed the problem, the changes, so quit acting like you're some God sent spokesman.
2,000 ppm of any kind of food quickly dehydrates the plant as reflected in the droopy leafsets. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but the damage has been done and no amount of flushing is gonna fix it, that's a feel-good thing. I think it will be very soon that he has to shit-can these plants and write it up to experience. It's also quite possible that he has damaged his roots with high salinity.
As an aside, everyone of these statements in their Botanicare sales pitch is a bunch of concocted marketing baloney targeted at the dreaming noob who will believe such this stuff as gospel:
- Benefits of Using Pure Blend Pro: Only a few benefits are described herein. The user will undoubtedly discover many more benefits in addition to the following:
- Essential elements are not derived from harmful chemicals such as urea and high concentrates of ammonia nitrate.
- Eliminates the danger of exposing plants (and ultimately the consumer) to toxic, heavy elements such as arsenic, mercury, selenium, etc. which often occur as contaminants in conventional chemical fertilizers.
- The organic components of Pure Blend Pro® enhance uptake and utilization of plant nutrients.
- Plants acquire increased pathogen resistance and hardiness.
- Metabolic rate and capacity is greatly amplified enabling the grower to produce fruits and vegetables that contain greater amounts of minerals and vitamins that are crucial for human nutrition.
- The budding, flowering, fruiting capacity of plants is greatly increased.
Shorty, read my sig link about Plant Moisture Stress.
Good luck,
UB
Uncle Ben
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Right
1. Mg has nothing to do with it. It is required, but it is not as important as N during flowering for leaf retention. Mg and iron are needed to keep chlorophyll levels up. Point in time is irrevelant.
2. His food contains Mg in the form of a carbonate.
Depends on the quality of the water. If you got a TDS like my well water of 690, yeah, you're toast. If he lives in a rainy area and his TDS is low with low Cl and Na, he's fine. You can't honestly make such a blanket statement without first having the facts.
More than likely it's due to a lack of N. One of the most prevalent problems when folks go into flowering.
That's about as accurate as the forum mantra "they need epsom salts." Like I said, one "aw shit" is usually enough to either destroy your plants or stunt them for life. When his leaves stop functioning, it's downhill after that. Since you're determined to remove the very lifeblood of the plant, the branches, I'm sure you will find that concept hard to understand.
UB
"2,000 ppm of any kind of food quickly dehydrates the plant as reflected in the droopy leafsets. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but the damage has been done and no amount of flushing is gonna fix it, that's a feel-good thing. I think it will be very soon that he has to shit-can these plants and write it up to experience. It's also quite possible that he has damaged his roots with high salinity"
Now there's some good info. Thanks for sharing.
Now there's some good info. Thanks for sharing.