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Trulife69

Trulife69

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Yo phillip! I just got done reading some of the haters of a.n. and some of the post you were in. Those guys are a bunch of douches,all they do is bash when a guy needs a little advice. Funny part was you have been helping me with the portable a/c and barrel idea and then I was reading other post about a.n. and just realized it was you. ha your all over RIU. I had a couple questions about a.n. that might help me out a little in my grow room. But I dont want 80 people chimming in to bash me. Also..what is the recommended inline fan cfms for 2 1000W HPS and ducting 12-15' to chimney?? I have a 6" inline but I think it is either 400 or 440 cfms.
 
Trulife69

Trulife69

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dont know why that posted twice,the site crashed right after trying to post that..weird. Anyways...so my room is 12'x12'x7'..so if I multiply all that I get 1008 and then I divide by 4? That gives me 252. so after adding some for lights and ducting I could get away with around 400 cfms?
 
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vertigo me

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That sounds about right for me. I am totally new and have not started a grow myself only know from what i have read not experience, but from your math it sounds right and i have read its better to go a little more than a little less when getting the fan to match your needs. Im sure someone with alot more knowledge and experience can confirm this otherwise just spend a little time on the net and im sure it will clarify things alot more for u ...
 
phillipchristian

phillipchristian

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Trulife69 said:
Yo phillip! I just got done reading some of the haters of a.n. and some of the post you were in. Those guys are a bunch of douches,all they do is bash when a guy needs a little advice. Funny part was you have been helping me with the portable a/c and barrel idea and then I was reading other post about a.n. and just realized it was you. ha your all over RIU. I had a couple questions about a.n. that might help me out a little in my grow room. But I dont want 80 people chimming in to bash me. Also..what is the recommended inline fan cfms for 2 1000W HPS and ducting 12-15' to chimney?? I have a 6" inline but I think it is either 400 or 440 cfms.
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Hey bud. Just ignore those haters. They are everywhere on this forum an the majority of them have no clue what they are talking about and have never used AN. They just repeat the same bullshit they've heard from the other haters. Feel free to post any questions in here.

Here is the deal with fans. About 80% of them sick. LOL. Seriously, the majority of them do not pull anywhere near the CFM they are rated for. Try and stick with CAN,Max, and Vortex if you can.

That chart that Vertigo provided seems like it would be for air turnover in your room. If you need to figure out how much air you need to pull through your lights to keep them cool then I don't think I have ever seen a formula for that. With 2 1000w lights they need to be in a straight line with no curves before the ducting and I think 400cfm would be ok. Any curves before the fan and you will need a stronger fan.
 
phillipchristian

phillipchristian

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Bwpz said:
Hey phillip, do you have any input on my setup I posted?
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Hey bud, sorry about that. I missed you there. You were the last post on that page and I guess a few posts were put up after you so I missed yours.

I really don't think you'll need a carbon filter in your veg room. You won't have any smell to deal with. Could save a little money there. I know the theory about using MH the first weeks of flower but I don't buy it. I would use that MH light in your veg room or switch it to HPS and put a 400w MH on your vegging plants. Doing a perpetual cycle like that you'll need your plants to grow as quick as possible and a MH will speed up your veg time. My only other suggestion would be the medium. I would use 4" rockwool block. Transfer from your 1" starter blocks and when the plants are rooted then transfer them to 4" blocks. I used to use the 6" blocks but I felt like they stunted the growth too much when transplanting the 1" cubes into them. Also, they hold too much liquid for the plants that are in 1" blocks. Also, fill your trays with hydroton. This will help the roots grow out more. Or you can get a tray cover from Hydrofarm and just cut out squares for your blocks. Anything to give the roots a place to grow without lights hitting them. Lastly, make sure you keep your reservoirs clean. Easiest way is with Hygrozyme and keeping the reservoir temps between 62-68. You can also use h2o2 or beneficial teas. I use hygrozyme and a chiller to kep my reservoirs clean. A frozen bottle of water will do the same as a chiller though for a 20 gallon reservoir. Just have to play with the bottle size to see what works for that reservoir. Keep an airstone in each reservoir as well. Oxyginated water is a huge bonus for your plants.

Hope all that helps. Let me know if you have any other questions.
 
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vertigo me

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Thanks for clarifying that for me, im wondering what brand would you suggest for my lighting setup from your experience. Also concerning the electrics your right the MCB for the sockets controlls all the sockets in the house and are B32 and you say are rated at 20Amps? but i have been reading a electrical threads on a UK forum and they say that means its actually 32 Amp.. im confused :s I also noted in the thread i read that each socket will allow 13A so thats 26A out of my double socket, can you clarify this and then i was looking at using a blackbox contactor to plug in all the neccesery equipment. Can you shed some expertise if im going along the right track with that?


As for the Veg room i have been told that a good way is to take 2 cuttings from each one of my plants hopefully 20 and then veg them. Then pick a mother from the best plants out of the cuttings i have taken. Then flower the rest and keep the superior plant back to take future cuttings (how far back would you go with cuttings). I would be looking at having 20 plants in flower at all times and however many to keep this cycle going in the veg room. Can you give me a lighting setup for the veg room so i can also start pricing up some equipment needed and approx how much space i will be looking at using of if not all of the 7x10 room.

Thanks and sorry for so many questions :L
 
phillipchristian

phillipchristian

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vertigo me said:
Thanks for clarifying that for me, im wondering what brand would you suggest for my lighting setup from your experience. Also concerning the electrics your right the MCB for the sockets controlls all the sockets in the house and are B32 and you say are rated at 20Amps? but i have been reading a electrical threads on a UK forum and they say that means its actually 32 Amp.. im confused :s I also noted in the thread i read that each socket will allow 13A so thats 26A out of my double socket, can you clarify this and then i was looking at using a blackbox contactor to plug in all the neccesery equipment. Can you shed some expertise if im going along the right track with that?


As for the Veg room i have been told that a good way is to take 2 cuttings from each one of my plants hopefully 20 and then veg them. Then pick a mother from the best plants out of the cuttings i have taken. Then flower the rest and keep the superior plant back to take future cuttings (how far back would you go with cuttings). I would be looking at having 20 plants in flower at all times and however many to keep this cycle going in the veg room. Can you give me a lighting setup for the veg room so i can also start pricing up some equipment needed and approx how much space i will be looking at using of if not all of the 7x10 room.

Thanks and sorry for so many questions :L
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I'll get you a plan and some answers tomorrow.
 
phillipchristian

phillipchristian

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kamie said:
Hey HR, whats a heat exchanger?
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Exactly what it sounds like. If you see in my signature there's a thread about water cooled grow rooms. Heat exchangers are basically any piece of equipment built for efficient heat transfer from one load to another. In this instance Hell and I are talking about heat exchangers which use chilled water to cool the air. Water is a more efficient way to remove heat from air then using air to remove heat from air. Your a/c unit passes the air from your room over a heat exchanger which transfers that heat from the air to the refrigerant in the coils. The coils then flow to another heat exchanger where air from outside is passed over them to remove the heat from the refrigerant before it goes back. Water can actually remove more heat and do it more efficiently. I use water cooled equipment and air handlers in my grow room so that none of the equipment in my room (lights, ballasts, Co2 generators, reservoir, etc..) produces heat. Hell just got a water cooled air handler (or heat exchanger).
 
Bwpz

Bwpz

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phillipchristian said:
Hey bud, sorry about that. I missed you there. You were the last post on that page and I guess a few posts were put up after you so I missed yours.

I really don't think you'll need a carbon filter in your veg room. You won't have any smell to deal with. Could save a little money there. I know the theory about using MH the first weeks of flower but I don't buy it. I would use that MH light in your veg room or switch it to HPS and put a 400w MH on your vegging plants. Doing a perpetual cycle like that you'll need your plants to grow as quick as possible and a MH will speed up your veg time. My only other suggestion would be the medium. I would use 4" rockwool block. Transfer from your 1" starter blocks and when the plants are rooted then transfer them to 4" blocks. I used to use the 6" blocks but I felt like they stunted the growth too much when transplanting the 1" cubes into them. Also, they hold too much liquid for the plants that are in 1" blocks. Also, fill your trays with hydroton. This will help the roots grow out more. Or you can get a tray cover from Hydrofarm and just cut out squares for your blocks. Anything to give the roots a place to grow without lights hitting them. Lastly, make sure you keep your reservoirs clean. Easiest way is with Hygrozyme and keeping the reservoir temps between 62-68. You can also use h2o2 or beneficial teas. I use hygrozyme and a chiller to kep my reservoirs clean. A frozen bottle of water will do the same as a chiller though for a 20 gallon reservoir. Just have to play with the bottle size to see what works for that reservoir. Keep an airstone in each reservoir as well. Oxyginated water is a huge bonus for your plants.

Hope all that helps. Let me know if you have any other questions.
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Thanks for your help :) I figured I'd use panda film as a cover to shield the roots from light, and thanks for the input on 4" rockwool cubes and the carbon filter, big money saver :) I planned on having 2 airstones in each, and a tea but if you say hygrozyme works well then I'll look into that. The main reason I was going to use the 600w MH in flowering was because I already have 1 MH and 2 HPS 600w bulbs :P I'll invest in another 600w bulb and replace the veg room with a 400w MH, but leave the mothers and clones under Fluorescent. Does that sound like a good idea?
 
phillipchristian

phillipchristian

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Bwpz said:
Thanks for your help :) I figured I'd use panda film as a cover to shield the roots from light, and thanks for the input on 4" rockwool cubes and the carbon filter, big money saver :) I planned on having 2 airstones in each, and a tea but if you say hygrozyme works well then I'll look into that. The main reason I was going to use the 600w MH in flowering was because I already have 1 MH and 2 HPS 600w bulbs :P I'll invest in another 600w bulb and replace the veg room with a 400w MH, but leave the mothers and clones under Fluorescent. Does that sound like a good idea?
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If you have a good recipe for a tea and don't mind brewing itevery couple weeks then go with that. It has a lot more benefits than Hygrozyme.

Now that I think about it I would stick with your fluorescents in veg. You are only vegging them for 3 weeks so you realy won't need any penetrating light and your fluorescents will actually give them a better spectrum. Stick with the lighting that you have.
 
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