Grow by Dutch method???

bud4less$

bud4less$

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I was just reading somewhere about the "Grow by Dutch" method. Has any one heard of it or better yet, done it. I guess what it is, is you immediately start the 12/12 phase. What that does is give you 2' plants that are suppose to be roughly all bud with very little leaf. Anyways, any input you have as to the pros or cons would be great. Thanks :leaf: :leaf: :leaf:
 
bud4less$

bud4less$

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Thanks for the response. I know you would get a lesser yield. However you could grow more plants in a smaller area and I would think it would be better bud because you would have better light saturation. Anyone else have an opinion, or have you done it?
 
SpruceZeus

SpruceZeus

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I have grown a few plants 12\12 from seed. You've pretty much got your facts straight, they're gonna stay small and produce bud over pretty much the whole plants. BUT..... some strains wont agree with this sort of thing and just veg anyways under 12\12 until they are ready.
having said that, I prefer to give my plants a couple weeks of vegging, you'll produce more bud per plant and therefore reduce the number of plants you have. in my opinion more plants=more chances for fuckups, i'd rather take really great care of 12 big plants then 30 small ones. also depending on the laws where you live, sometimes they prosecute based only on the number of plants like 1 plant = 1 kilo
anyhow, whatever you decide on good luck and happy growing.
 
bud4less$

bud4less$

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So, with that being said if I wanted small plants because of size limitations I could veg for 1 week that go over to 12/12 and still get good bud. I know I will be cutting back total yield per plant. But if I could grow say, 6 at a time as appose to 2 I still might wind up with more bud at the end. Is this correct? Thanks
 
d3k

d3k

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Dude, read...please. and, what your talking about is SoG. large amount of plants packed into a smaller area and forced to flower nearly immediately giving a lower yield per plant, but in turn increasing overall yield if done right.

Very popular technique. Just read read read, and experiment.
 
bud4less$

bud4less$

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OK, I don't mind admitting that I am new at this. I have read a little about SoG but didn't entirely understand it. Thanks for letting me know. I guess now I will go read about SoG.
 
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lonewolf2112

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bud4less$ said:
So, with that being said if I wanted small plants because of size limitations I could veg for 1 week that go over to 12/12 and still get good bud. I know I will be cutting back total yield per plant. But if I could grow say, 6 at a time as appose to 2 I still might wind up with more bud at the end. Is this correct? Thanks
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first time here so i hope i did this right!
i read something about flowering from seeds after two weeks.the problem with that is the plants have to be out of the seedling stage (roughly 1 month depending on the strain) or the thc level could be adversely affected.the best way is to take clones from a female plant and flower after the root system has developed and you notice new growth.also if you use flourescent light(minimum of 2000 lumens) and keep bulbs within at least 2 inches of the tips of plant the clones will have much shorter internodes and much sturdier stalks.spritz them with some flowering hormone spray (which is available at any walmart) before the branches start to develope.when you notice flowers starting to develope move them under a hps growlux.the result should be a two foot or so giant bud with it's own root system.then wait to harvest it until you notice the single bladed leaves start to swell up.that will last about 3 days and the yield could be .25 qp or better.theoreticly you could repeat this process every 2 wks or so and have a harvest that often.
 
laserbrn

laserbrn

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lonewolf2112 said:
first time here so i hope i did this right!
i read something about flowering from seeds after two weeks.the problem with that is the plants have to be out of the seedling stage (roughly 1 month depending on the strain) or the thc level could be adversely affected.the best way is to take clones from a female plant and flower after the root system has developed and you notice new growth.also if you use flourescent light(minimum of 2000 lumens) and keep bulbs within at least 2 inches of the tips of plant the clones will have much shorter internodes and much sturdier stalks.spritz them with some flowering hormone spray (which is available at any walmart) before the branches start to develope.when you notice flowers starting to develope move them under a hps growlux.the result should be a two foot or so giant bud with it's own root system.then wait to harvest it until you notice the single bladed leaves start to swell up.that will last about 3 days and the yield could be .25 qp or better.theoreticly you could repeat this process every 2 wks or so and have a harvest that often.
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Check out this grow log, it continues in a seperate log, but gives you an idea of what happens if you veg for a very short period off of clones.

I 'vegged' these for 6 days then switched to 12/12. I basically just waited until roots were at the bottom of my rockwool cubes just to ensure they all had healthy root systems...

https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/16572-out-old-new-grow.html

It was fun and it was exciting and I grew 6 plants in 8 weeks TOTAL start to finish and yeilded 4.5 ounces with a 250w HPS in my closet completely stealth. There is definitely a place for this style of growing and it doesn't have to be a SOG.
 
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lonewolf2112

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laserbrn said:
Check out this grow log, it continues in a seperate log, but gives you an idea of what happens if you veg for a very short period off of clones.

I 'vegged' these for 6 days then switched to 12/12. I basically just waited until roots were at the bottom of my rockwool cubes just to ensure they all had healthy root systems...

https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/16572-out-old-new-grow.html

It was fun and it was exciting and I grew 6 plants in 8 weeks TOTAL start to finish and yeilded 4.5 ounces with a 250w HPS in my closet completely stealth. There is definitely a place for this style of growing and it doesn't have to be a SOG.
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my first light was a 250 watt hps.i agree that there is a place for your method as that was the way i started out although as a matter of personal preference i use soil with blood meal for nitrogen and bone meal for phospherous but now i advocate SOG as a way of not having to work for somebody else.your method is great though if your goal is to not have to go chasing after distributors and giving your hard earned cash to somebody else.bongsmilie
 
laserbrn

laserbrn

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lonewolf2112 said:
my first light was a 250 watt hps.i agree that there is a place for your method as that was the way i started out although as a matter of personal preference i use soil with blood meal for nitrogen and bone meal for phospherous but now i advocate SOG as a way of not having to work for somebody else.your method is great though if your goal is to not have to go chasing after distributors and giving your hard earned cash to somebody else.bongsmilie
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Agreed, if you wanna make a living at it I would recommend SOG. I was just pointing out that it can also be done just as a single run just for personal enjoyment and you likely won't be disappointed. That is if you find a nice strain that is conducive to that style. Some strains just don't do it. You end up wasting the time trying to grow a quarter per plant and that's kind of annoying.
 
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lonewolf2112

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laserbrn said:
Agreed, if you wanna make a living at it I would recommend SOG. I was just pointing out that it can also be done just as a single run just for personal enjoyment and you likely won't be disappointed. That is if you find a nice strain that is conducive to that style. Some strains just don't do it. You end up wasting the time trying to grow a quarter per plant and that's kind of annoying.
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if you rooted your clones under a flourescent light with the bulb no higher than 2 inches above the top of the plant you would get different results on clones than you do with hps.under flourescent the internode is much shorter and the stock much fatter.the bigger the stock the bigger everything else will be including the flowers.i'm getting ready to start up my current project after moving to another state and this time i'm going to root them under flourescent and then switch them over to a hps hortilux right before any lateral branches start to form.i'm planning to have a quarter pound per clone.:bigjoint:
 
laserbrn

laserbrn

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lonewolf2112 said:
if you rooted your clones under a flourescent light with the bulb no higher than 2 inches above the top of the plant you would get different results on clones than you do with hps.under flourescent the internode is much shorter and the stock much fatter.the bigger the stock the bigger everything else will be including the flowers.i'm getting ready to start up my current project after moving to another state and this time i'm going to root them under flourescent and then switch them over to a hps hortilux right before any lateral branches start to form.i'm planning to have a quarter pound per clone.:bigjoint:
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I have a 6 lamp T5 Floro that I always use to get my clones rooted and to get them underway for veg. Couldn't agree more that the results are better.
 
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