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Gquebed

Gquebed

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GroErr said:
@Gquebed, here are some closer shots of those veggers...

Waldo's Harley F1/P1:

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Blue Ripper BX1/P2:

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Cheers :bigjoint:
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Thanks @GroErr

Those look like shit to you? You're setting the bar high...lol

But your pics are giving me some confidence. I'm outta the woods now... LOL

It's been a bitch dialing in. I have two strains going that I know well, Black Ice and Northern Lights 5. Both a very hardy strains and can take a good bit of abuse. However, the NL is from fem seed and a little sensitive... but still a tough bitch.
Anyway, finding the right ratio between phosphorous and cal mag was a real c#@t with only a couple plants going. But I'm close now. Some fine tuning left to do...

I'm also out of time. Gotta get the show on the road and pick a mom and cut some clones... like right after I have coffee.
 
GroErr

GroErr

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Gquebed said:
Thanks @GroErr

Those look like shit to you? You're setting the bar high...lol

But your pics are giving me some confidence. I'm outta the woods now... LOL

It's been a bitch dialing in. I have two strains going that I know well, Black Ice and Northern Lights 5. Both a very hardy strains and can take a good bit of abuse. However, the NL is from fem seed and a little sensitive... but still a tough bitch.
Anyway, finding the right ratio between phosphorous and cal mag was a real c#@t with only a couple plants going. But I'm close now. Some fine tuning left to do...

I'm also out of time. Gotta get the show on the road and pick a mom and cut some clones... like right after I have coffee.
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Cheers hope that helps, sounds like you're getting things dialled in. Reason I say they look like crap is I've been doing the same thing since switching veg lights from the blurples to the white Citi 1212 COBs. I don't like chasing defs but had to adjust my feeding in veg. Typically I'd feed them every 3rd or 4th watering at this stage to keep them green and healthy. These I've had to feed lightly (300 ppm) every other watering to keep them looking decent.

You hear that they "need more cal-mag" under white LED's. I don't think it's just cal-mag, they just respond and require different feeding under these lights. Balanced feeds at low ppm's took care of any defs which were starting to show early.
 
Gquebed

Gquebed

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GroErr said:
Cheers hope that helps, sounds like you're getting things dialled in. Reason I say they look like crap is I've been doing the same thing since switching veg lights from the blurples to the white Citi 1212 COBs. I don't like chasing defs but had to adjust my feeding in veg. Typically I'd feed them every 3rd or 4th watering at this stage to keep them green and healthy. These I've had to feed lightly (300 ppm) every other watering to keep them looking decent.

You hear that they "need more cal-mag" under white LED's. I don't think it's just cal-mag, they just respond and require different feeding under these lights. Balanced feeds at low ppm's took care of any defs which were starting to show early.
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I agree... its not just cal mag. Its about finding the right proportions of it all.

In promix i have had to feed every watering. My water starts at 240 ppm and i bump it to 350 ish with cal mag and bump it again to 500ish with P. Because the cal mag has some N with it i dont mess with that. Thats the light feed. The next watering is the heavy feed. Bump the 240 water with cal mag to 350ish and then use my usual veg mix of N P K, except with lower N which comes to about 750ish ppm. So i go back and forth like that. The nute usage astounds me.

Its not ideal yet. Thinking maybe i could come down a bit in K.

One thing is for certain in my enviro... i need to keep on the cal mag & P in the right ratio.

Anyway... i was thinking... even with the cobs 24" above canopy and dimmed to 75% the plants were drooping after 10 hous just from over work. It seems. So... when my clones are ready for veg i am going to try an experiment... just going to shut off a rotating 2 of the 4 lights for a 1/2 hour at a time to give them a "cloud shade" break. And dial back the nutes a bit....
 
GroErr

GroErr

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Gquebed said:
I agree... its not just cal mag. Its about finding the right proportions of it all.

In promix i have had to feed every watering. My water starts at 240 ppm and i bump it to 350 ish with cal mag and bump it again to 500ish with P. Because the cal mag has some N with it i dont mess with that. Thats the light feed. The next watering is the heavy feed. Bump the 240 water with cal mag to 350ish and then use my usual veg mix of N P K, except with lower N which comes to about 750ish ppm. So i go back and forth like that. The nute usage astounds me.

Its not ideal yet. Thinking maybe i could come down a bit in K.

One thing is for certain in my enviro... i need to keep on the cal mag & P in the right ratio.

Anyway... i was thinking... even with the cobs 24" above canopy and dimmed to 75% the plants were drooping after 10 hous just from over work. It seems. So... when my clones are ready for veg i am going to try an experiment... just going to shut off a rotating 2 of the 4 lights for a 1/2 hour at a time to give them a "cloud shade" break. And dial back the nutes a bit....
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Yeah, any changes indoor can have huge impact. Forces you to read the plants a little closer, not a bad thing. That's interesting, the last paragraph got me thinking maybe GLR is a good option under these white LED's. Key is to make as few changes as possible, ideally one at a time to validate results. Otherwise you're chasing variables and it's difficult to nail down one factor.
 
Gquebed

Gquebed

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GroErr said:
Yeah, any changes indoor can have huge impact. Forces you to read the plants a little closer, not a bad thing. That's interesting, the last paragraph got me thinking maybe GLR is a good option under these white LED's. Key is to make as few changes as possible, ideally one at a time to validate results. Otherwise you're chasing variables and it's difficult to nail down one factor.
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I see your point. Changing the light sched just when im diallimg in the nutes... bad idea...lol

Anyway almost there. Looking forward to much better run than the last two. I know the strain im running and so i know it should do the 1 gpw no problem if all goes well. Should even exceed it...so it will be a good measure of where im at...

Thanks for your help!
 
GroErr

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Positive thoughts for those living in Florida right now and hoping those on the islands that have already been hit make it though this storm, incredible power in that storm if anyone's seen the damage. My brother and his wife are 20 miles inland but this thing is fierce and location probably won't mater much if it hits land. There is no such thing as evacuation for them, he's a firefighter and his wife works in the emergency department at the local hospital. They'll be dispatched to wherever help is needed, whether it hits their area hard or not, they're in for a rough ride over the next week.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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GroErr said:
Positive thoughts for those living in Florida right now and hoping those on the islands that have already been hit make it though this storm, incredible power in that storm if anyone's seen the damage. My brother and his wife are 20 miles inland but this thing is fierce and location probably won't mater much if it hits land. There is no such thing as evacuation for them, he's a firefighter and his wife works in the emergency department at the local hospital. They'll be dispatched to wherever help is needed, whether it hits their area hard or not, they're in for a rough ride over the next week.
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I hear your concern and I have faith they'll be okay. They're clearly highly trained and very capable people. The worst that's likely to befall them is that they probably won't be getting a lot of sleep next week...
 
GroErr

GroErr

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ttystikk said:
I hear your concern and I have faith they'll be okay. They're clearly highly trained and very capable people. The worst that's likely to befall them is that they probably won't be getting a lot of sleep next week...
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Cheers, I'm sure they'll be fine, they've been through some rough systems in the past. Like you said though, neither will get a lot of sleep and hopefully no dumb-asses to deal with. My brother says the worst part of some of these events are the scumbag looters. He says the most dangerous part of his job has been regular calls to some of his "customers" that weigh 600+ lbs, only place he's ever been injured on the job, lifting them - lol
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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GroErr said:
Cheers, I'm sure they'll be fine, they've been through some rough systems in the past. Like you said though, neither will get a lot of sleep and hopefully no dumb-asses to deal with. My brother says the worst part of some of these events are the scumbag looters. He says the most dangerous part of his job has been regular calls to some of his "customers" that weigh 600+ lbs, only place he's ever been injured on the job, lifting them - lol
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Maybe we could get a fund started and solicit donations for an engine hoist?

What a uniquely American disorder, that he has regular "customers"- plural!- who weigh that much and aren't undergoing intensive treatment for it.
 
GroErr

GroErr

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ttystikk said:
Maybe we could get a fund started and solicit donations for an engine hoist?

What a uniquely American disorder, that he has regular "customers"- plural!- who weigh that much and aren't undergoing intensive treatment for it.
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That's what I said when he first told me, wtf are you guys doing lifting them? You'd think they'd have exactly some form of hoist for that kind of weight. Apparently they have a few of these "regulars", they can't move or even get out of their house on their own so they call them when they need a lift(?). Wouldn't it be cheaper to get them in a program to lose weight, medical care, proper eating, exercise and the like? Shit it would be cheaper to have doctors make house calls than send a troop of firefighters with all that equipment to move them ffs.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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GroErr said:
lmao, f*n spell checker on here sucks, always does that, unless I'm paying attention and change it before posting it changes camshot into camshaft, try it ;)
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I feel you!

I'm on a smartphone and Swype's autocorrect is the name of my existence, lol

I've got a soft spot in my heart for lumpy cams, too- I've built a few hot rod motors in my day.
 
GroErr

GroErr

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Group and bud shots at day 44 & 37. Buds on the 2x Blue Rippers at the back and the Columbian Gold P1 (purple) are all getting dense. A few grams in those 3 :)

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Blue Harley BX1, day 37:

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Columbian Gold P2, day 42:

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Columbian Gold P1, day 44:

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Blue Ripper P1, day 44:

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Blue Ripper P2, day 44:

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Cheers :bigjoint:
 
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