Greenpoint seeds!!

TerrapinBlazin said:

That isn’t very helpful dude. Everyone here has seen it all and made up their minds. Nobody should be this invested in either defending or bashing them. Posts like this aren’t gonna get me to stop buying their gear. The only thing that will is shitty plants, and I’m confident that’s not gonna happen.

For the most part I keep my own counsel, unless I’ve specifically asked for something, and every time I see a post like this it just distracts me.

No offense meant, or anything. I mean if someone’s been a dick to you personally then you have every right to be upset, but unless you’re just doing this to vent it isn’t accomplishing anything or changing any minds. You’ll always make way more of a statement with your wallet. Believe me they want that repeat business.

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Couch_buzz said:

All other seeds I have germinate, all but Purple Crunch. If you look through this thread, you will find after it happened to me it's happened to others. Maybe read more, talk less. Never had germination troubles prior, till that dos si dos x purple punch (Purp crunch).

Cool you're a master grower, I never professed to be.

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TerrapinBlazin said:

That isn’t very helpful dude. Everyone here has seen it all and made up their minds. Nobody should be this invested in either defending or bashing them. Posts like this aren’t gonna get me to stop buying their gear. The only thing that will is shitty plants, and I’m confident that’s not gonna happen.

For the most part I keep my own counsel, unless I’ve specifically asked for something, and every time I see a post like this it just distracts me.

No offense meant, or anything. I mean if someone’s been a dick to you personally then you have every right to be upset, but unless you’re just doing this to vent it isn’t accomplishing anything or changing any minds. You’ll always make way more of a statement with your wallet. Believe me they want that repeat business.

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Tom2m said:

Maybe they refuse to leave this thread because they feel they have to expose all that shit!
If everything was so green why is Heisen deleting videos if they were so great?
Why the only answer to his own questions are insults?
Why is he banning half of his own forum?
Why is he deleting half of the thread of his own forum?

What about you? Are you the new PR? Because bit seems that more than a content guy, they should hire a PR guy!
It doesn't sound your are one too, what are you in for?

I would be very careful before ordering, especially leaving my data in the hands of such unstable people!
If you are in a legal place, better go with clones, if still in the prohibition dark ages, better go with someone a bit more stable!

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Tom2m said:

No offense taken, please don't take any either!
I understand you are aware of the whole history, but maybe some new people are not going a few hundred pages back.
Today most of the "breeders" are crossing the same clone together, IG is full of pics of "fire"!
Now on my side I choose to reward people with integrity, I does not appear that Heisen is one of them so of course I won't buy any seeds from him, but I thought I should voice my concerns , just like he did a few month ago.

I will not keep repeating it, I posted my opinion in his own site but the censor came... So I post it here.

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Greenthumbskunk said:

Maybe post less and learn to sprout?


Im 5 for 5 in sprouting some of GU gear last week. Not a single problem.

If you have problems sprouting then learn to clone. I use 3- 36 site aero cloners where i take cuts of plants i like stick em in that and they shoot roots in no less than 2 weeks.
Take those ones you got up and when you move them to flower take some cuts off the bottom of the plant since your gonna be pruning those anyways. Those will be your next plants your gonna stick in your veg room/ tent/ closet whatever you are using.

I usually like to get my plants in veg around 3 foot across before i move them to my flower rooms. So i veg a good while even in rdwc. So i have a lot of cuttings i can take.

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Greenthumbskunk said:

Oh and if anyone wants to see a real messy dirty floor i can post pics of my greenhouse of where ive been growing in for years. Or in my gorilla grows. Their is nothing but dirt, weeds, and debris everywhere.
And if anyone wants to come over and demonstrate how to keep that clean with a mop and some wipes they are more than welcome to try..

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Chunky Stool said:

Everything sticks to sticky buds.

That's why outdoor bud is worth less than indoor.

You aren't very smart.

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Greenthumbskunk said:

The only solution i see that can come from this and your concerns is to simply start breeding and offering your elite cuts S1 beans for sale.



I will bet you 1000 bucks when you do this your gonna have haters bashing you and saying your product is junk, unprofessional etc. Ive read it all from every breeder ive purchased from over the years. You wont be any different haters gonna hate.

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Vato_504 said:

Alright here’s the bottom line of it all. We seen his growing conditions. His daddy Gu made him delete the videos because that’ll hurt sales. Now after watching those 2 videos multiple things are evident.
1. He’s one trifling ass breeder.
2. Cross contamination is happening.
3. He’s not the breeder he pretended to be.
4. He’s gonna be the downfall of GPS.
5. Reports will start coming in of people having problems out the ass.
6. These bandwagon jumpers will still run their asses over here to defend someone that’s a low down dirty filthy dog...
7. Chuckers Paradise will never be better then RIU on it’s worst day!!!

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Chunky Stool said:

Unprofessional people are sloppy.
It's in their DNA.

I've seen it countless times in the workplace.
They don't change -- no matter how much you coach them.

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Greenthumbskunk said:

If you go in any thread on this site you have the thread bullies who try and turn a good thread into a piss on them gangbang. Its tiring. Surprised its not cleaned up. Thats what drives away posters to other forums where all they wanna do is talk plants.

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Greenthumbskunk said:

No telling how much good plants over the years that are a staple now came from stray pollen from a hermie, male plant not culled or just some pollen in the air. C99 comes to mind.

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"The Cinderella Story - as told by MrSoul (last updated for seedfinder.eu at the 15th of March 2017):

In 1996, I discovered a few seeds in a bud of Jack Herer I bought @ "Sensi Smile" coffeeshop in Amsterdam while there to buy seeds. I didn't expect much when I grew them, but one of those seeds from the JH bud produced a very special female that I call "Princess". She had devastatingly psychoactive resin and stayed short, compact and had a heavenly aroma of tropical fruit and rotten meat.

The scent given off by Princess, was unusual in the late 90's - not at all skunky - she's sweet and fruity. Someone passing by the flowering room MIGHT not recognize the scent as pot and mistake it for tropical flowers. When you rub the resin you can definitely smell it. The high of Princess is also more "psychedelic" or "trippy" compared to the strains like Skunk #1 that were popular. I always advised friends to smoke a LITTLE, wait 10 minutes, then think about whether or not you need any more... it’s easy to over-indulge and become paranoid.

We can assume Princess' mother was a Jack Herer not only because Sensi Smile printed it on the package, but also because I've smoked verified Jack Herer since then. So Princess' father is a totally unidentified mystery plant - his pollen somehow got in Sensi's growroom. Princess had two sisters join her from that same bud. I called them Genius & Café Girl. There were also 3 males from those seeds which regrettably, I didn’t preserve. Genius became the mother of the Brothers Grimm Apollo lines, while Café Girl gave us Rosetta Stone, and Princess of course, created Cinderella 99.

I wanted to create a strain that would allow me to share Princess with others, but I wanted this incredible "Holy Grail" of indoor clones available to the world in SEED form. I decided to use a technique called "cubing" (because there are 3 backcrosses involved) to create the seeds. Here’s how cubing works:

1. Pollinate a flowering clone of the chosen female with the pollen of a related male, preferably her father or a brother - to preserve any female traits that are linked to the male side of the family. An unrelated male won't have the Y-chromosome of the chosen female's family & therefore any Y-linked traits of the family will always be missing in the seed line. The resulting seeds contain 1/2 the original female's genes and 1/2 those of the male.

2. Grow the above seeds & flower them.

3. Pollinate a flowering clone of the chosen female with pollen from a male selected from the above group. These seeds contain 1/2 the chosen female's genes plus 1/4 more from the male being 1/2 her genetics too. I call this first back-cross generation .75 to capture the idea that it's 3/4 of the original female's genetics.

4. Grow the above seeds & flower them.

5. Pollinate a flowering clone of the chosen female, using a selected male from the above generation. These seeds contain 7/8 the original genes (1/2+3/, so this second back-cross is the .88 generation.

6. Grow the above seeds & flower them.

7. Pollinate a flowering clone of the original female with pollen from a selected male off the above generation. These seeds contain 15/16 the original genes (1/2+7/16), in other words, so we’ll call this third back-cross the ".94" generation.

Theoretically, this will be a stable, true-breeding seed line from which all females are replicas of the original. Cinderella 99 seeds are created from a male P94 crossed to Princess, which is technically P97.

In the process of "cubing" Princess I wanted to add a little strength to her branches because the buds were always so heavy at harvest that the branches flopped over. To do that, I crossed a male from a heavy-yielding, dense, resinous strain, Sensi’s Shiva Skunk. Crossing that male to Princess created the "P.50" generation (using the shorthand notation I developed to indicate the fraction of Princess genes in the cross).

Each generation is the result of crossing a male from the previous generation to Princess herself.

Here's a blow-by-blow description of the generations as they tested in my garden:

P.50 = Heavy, single-cola type plants with mellow high (too much influence from the Shiva Skunk) Sweet fruity scent/flavor. Unstable in most traits - for example, 10 days difference in fastest/slowest maturation period in a group of 20 seedlings.

P.75 = Princess floral cluster and bud structure, scent/flavor turned more "tropical" like pineapple. The stability was becoming better - two major phenotypes; short & dense (potent too) or tall/HUGE (less potent).

P.88 = Renamed Cinderella 88 when first released on the market. It grows fast and produces excellent yields of FROSTY buds in 7 weeks! Generally uniform seedlings with minor differences in floral formation and some height variance, but the smoke is quite consistent from all plants - Dense, heavy nuggets of fruity scented & flavored (like wild berries) and covered in resin glands, the dried buds have distinctly ORANGE pistils.

And finally, the male P.94 cross to the Princess clone creates Cinderella 99. The name "Cinderella" was chosen because of the parallels between this story and the well-known fairy tale in which Cinderella becomes a Princess despite her humble beginning.

Each generation exhibited a MAJOR jump in potency: P.50 was rather mellow, P.75 has a well-balanced body/mind high with a citrus flavor, Cinderella 88 is cerebral and paralyzing with a tropical fruit flavor, and Cinderella 99 is of course renowned for the fruity flavor and speedy, scary high inherited from Princess.

This project clearly became a huge success. The strain has been embraced by the cannabis growing community. The smokers gave rave reviews & the breeders elevated Cinderella 99 to cult status. It's extremely gratifying to me, MrSoul that so many hybrids were created by breeders who recognized C99 as a stable parental stock from which to build or tweak another variety. It's a big compliment to me as the breeder, and a huge testament to the enduring quality of Cinderella 99."

Greenthumbskunk said:

...piss on them...

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