Greenpoint seeds!!

Little Dog

Little Dog

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LrnLvGrw said:
Use your hoods. Take the bulb out. Get 1/8 inch sheet of aluminum cut to the dimensions of the glass(this will go in place of the glass) Put 3 qb288 on each plate. Driver goes on top of the plate (in the hood). Use a meanwell b type driver so you can run a potentiometer to the outside of the hood so you can dim. Air cool as your doing. Higher up front cost using 3 qb's but you can run them softer and have a more equal light distribution.
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Great info my friend! Now I'm beginning to see the picture. Pretty simple, I'm thinking I can do this. I know I can. Thank you #LrnLvGrw. First time I'm feeling this is definitely doable. Thank you for taking the time to share.
 
whytewidow

whytewidow

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LrnLvGrw said:
Use your hoods. Take the bulb out. Get 1/8 inch sheet of aluminum cut to the dimensions of the glass(this will go in place of the glass) Put 3 qb288 on each plate. Driver goes on top of the plate (in the hood). Use a meanwell b type driver so you can run a potentiometer to the outside of the hood so you can dim. Air cool as your doing. Higher up front cost using 3 qb's but you can run them softer and have a more equal light distribution.
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That's a great idea. I bet it runs pretty cool too by cooling the driver inside the light plus cools the back side of the aluminum at the same time.
 
whytewidow

whytewidow

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Little Dog said:
Great info my friend! Now I'm beginning to see the picture. Pretty simple, I'm thinking I can do this. I know I can. Thank you #LrnLvGrw. First time I'm feeling this is definitely doable. Thank you for taking the time to share.
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I would get some thermal tape to put on the back if the qb. That way if you want to upgrade or drive them harder it will help cool them. It may not be needed. But it's cheap, you can get from Amazon for less than 20 bucks. It will at the very least make your leds last longer by helping with cooling.
 
whytewidow

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Well out of 5 pebble pushers and 5 sundae stallion only have 1 pebble pusher and 2 sundae stallions left. These are probably the most manliest, sickly lookn seedlings I have ever run. And no it's not my soil, temp, environment, or any if the above. Bc all the soil was mixed together. And the other 9 seedlings are fine. Growing great. I mean atleast the bunk S1's grew with some.tyoe of vigor.
 
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vertnugs

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Little Dog said:
I'm beginning to lean that way. I'm no electrician, but I can wire a house. Have done it, I just followed the Home Depot beginner manual. #Vertnugs, does the 600H kit come with assembly directions. Would you know? Or is it best to assemble piece by piece. I'm willing to try, but it has to be obtainable. I can follow directions pretty good, if the directions are there. Is there a website dedicated to DIY? I appreciate your input and interest. Thanks again.
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I got mine put together with the pot installed for dimming.I'm no led guru,but i think piece by piece is where it's at as it gives you much more options than going with a prebuilt out the gate like i did.I'd rather have 6 or 8 boards being drivin by the same wattage.

Honestly i think there are much better ways to go than the 600h for your space.

Every thing and any thing ya want to learn is right here at RIU.
 
NugHeuser

NugHeuser

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whytewidow said:
Well out of 5 pebble pushers and 5 sundae stallion only have 1 pebble pusher and 2 sundae stallions left. These are probably the most manliest, sickly lookn seedlings I have ever run. And no it's not my soil, temp, environment, or any if the above. Bc all the soil was mixed together. And the other 9 seedlings are fine. Growing great. I mean atleast the bunk S1's grew with some.tyoe of vigor.
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How far along are they?
 
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vertnugs

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Goats22 said:
my qb600h run FAR cooler than my air-cooled 600w hps did.
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At 600 watts,your rig runs cooler than an air cooled 6er hps?Mmm.I ran bare bulb,and at full power my rig puts out just as much heat.Have you cranked that thing up and let it run for a bit?Driver and sink are up there in temps for sure.

Will say it dosen't seem to take much to lower temps.500ish and there's quite a difference.
 
LrnLvGrw

LrnLvGrw

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whytewidow said:
Well out of 5 pebble pushers and 5 sundae stallion only have 1 pebble pusher and 2 sundae stallions left. These are probably the most manliest, sickly lookn seedlings I have ever run. And no it's not my soil, temp, environment, or any if the above. Bc all the soil was mixed together. And the other 9 seedlings are fine. Growing great. I mean atleast the bunk S1's grew with some.tyoe of vigor.
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Hmm well that might answer me. Popped whole pack of sundae stallion and they def dont have the same vigor associated with other gp seeds ive done. Only 2 weeks after germination so hopefully tgey pick up. Have 25 other seedlings going including cackelberry anf they are all blowing the doors off ss.
 
NugHeuser

NugHeuser

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@Little Dog

My suggestion is qb's or the strips like what @whytewidow mentioned, just because those are top of the line in efficiency right now.
As far as the cobs go, if it were me I'd go with some cheaper ones if you went that route. Don't quote me but I believe cob tech has advanced enough that you really don't lose much going from the the cxb's to something cheaper, considering how much more expensive the cxb's are.

I'm new to led but I recently built 3- 3 cob rails using luminus cobs, pairing them with 2 philips 315w cmh's, inside a 4x8 tent. The cobs are much brighter than I expected and were something like half the price of the cxb's I believe.

My .02 cents :peace:
 
Lurpin

Lurpin

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Little Dog said:
Hey guys! I hope I'm not out of line with this. But this is my most favorite thread. And I certainly trust and value each one of you guys opinion. (Some a little more than others. Lol) So please help an old, "old school" guy out if you will. So here goes. I use two Blockbuster 600 watt (Hortilux bulbs) hoods over an Aeroflow 60 site, with two light movers going from side to side. My total footprint is about 41/2 X 61/2. I'm satisfied with my grow, as it is. But I would like to get away from the heat being produced, and hopefully up the quality of my grow somewhat. (Who doesn't, right!) And cut back on the AC usage. Which of these would you suggest? And how many would I need to replace my HPS bulbs. I only flower, no real veg time in my setup. The

(1) Specification:
LEDs: CREE XLAMP CXB3590
Cooling: Passive Heatsink (No fan)
3500K Warm White
CRI: 80
umol/ watt 2.1
Forward Foltage: 36V
Max Current Drive: 3600ma
Actual Power Draw: 54 watts
COB Max Power: 132 Watts
Net weight: 1.5KG.

(2) Or the HLG- 600H with new V2 Quantum Boards.

(3) Or the Fluence SpydrX or SpyderX plus.

This may not be the place to ask. But I feel as if I somewhat know all you guys here. This is a big step for me. I've only used HID's forever, nothing else. But I don't want to stay behind, if getting up to date is the thing. Thanks for any help.
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What kind of ventilation you got going on in your room? Get rid of all the 90 degree angles in your ducting for better air flow. Maybe get a bigger duct fan. Do you have ventilation separate from your lights ventilation? Depending on the time of year and where you live you can suck cool fresh filtered air into without the use of Ac. There are lots we could come up with for you. Maybe someone has some others?

Also I always ran bigger then 6 inch ducts. 8 inch always worked best for me. Then your fans can move more volume.

Just wanted to add one more thing. You can up the size of your ducting without getting new hoods. They make ducting adaptors that you can get at home depot.
 
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Lurpin

Lurpin

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LrnLvGrw said:
Hmm well that might answer me. Popped whole pack of sundae stallion and they def dont have the same vigor associated with other gp seeds ive done. Only 2 weeks after germination so hopefully tgey pick up. Have 25 other seedlings going including cackelberry anf they are all blowing the doors off ss.
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What do yours look like? Mine are two weeks old as well.

Edit: I only ask cause this is my first GPS run and I have no other GPS experience to compare it to.
 
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whytewidow

whytewidow

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NugHeuser said:
How far along are they?
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They were 4 days old. And they died during night cycle. Everything was popped at the same time. All the soil is from the same bag, and everything. In the same tent, all done the same. They all popped good and quick and had good tails. Came up through the soil quick. But once they broke ground they shit out. Everything else is still truckn along nicely. But I won't be popping anymore of them. On to something else. I don't have time to grow em for a few days and replace them. Guess that's what I get for counting on testers.
 
NugHeuser

NugHeuser

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whytewidow said:
They were 4 days old. And they died during night cycle. Everything was popped at the same time. All the soil is from the same bag, and everything. In the same tent, all done the same. They all popped good and quick and had good tails. Came up through the soil quick. But once they broke ground they shit out. Everything else is still truckn along nicely. But I won't be popping anymore of them. On to something else. I don't have time to grow em for a few days and replace them. Guess that's what I get for counting on testers.
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Yeah possibly just some unlucky seeds, hard telling this early.
I don't have any other strains to compare to as far as speed of growth since these were popped alone, but they're growing. I want to say maybe 6 days now and starting on their first true set of leaves, got one stretching for the sky otherwise too early to tell with mine.
 
whytewidow

whytewidow

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Gu~ said:
Maybe you should try taking the bag off
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They don't have bags on them. And I've done the same thing for the last 10 years. Everything else is growing fine. Including other GPS strains. What's the difference, between a bag and a plastic clear container as in a dome.
 
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