Greenpoint seeds!!

Little Dog said:

Hey guys! I hope I'm not out of line with this. But this is my most favorite thread. And I certainly trust and value each one of you guys opinion. (Some a little more than others. Lol) So please help an old, "old school" guy out if you will. So here goes. I use two Blockbuster 600 watt (Hortilux bulbs) hoods over an Aeroflow 60 site, with two light movers going from side to side. My total footprint is about 41/2 X 61/2. I'm satisfied with my grow, as it is. But I would like to get away from the heat being produced, and hopefully up the quality of my grow somewhat. (Who doesn't, right!) And cut back on the AC usage. Which of these would you suggest? And how many would I need to replace my HPS bulbs. I only flower, no veg time in my setup. The

(1) Specification:
LEDs: CREE XLAMP CXB3590
Cooling: Passive Heatsink (No fan)
3500K Warm White
CRI: 80
umol/ watt 2.1
Forward Foltage: 36V
Max Current Drive: 3600ma
Actual Power Draw: 54 watts
COB Max Power: 132 Watts
Net weight: 1.5KG.

(2) Or the HLG- 600H with new V2 Quantum Boards.

(2) Or the Fluence SpydrX or SpyderX plus.

This may not be the place to ask. But I feel as if I somewhat know all you guys here. This is a big step for me. I've only used HID's forever, nothing else. But I don't want to stay behind, if getting up to date is the thing. Thanks for any help.

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Little Dog said:

Hey guys! I hope I'm not out of line with this. But this is my most favorite thread. And I certainly trust and value each one of you guys opinion. (Some a little more than others. Lol) So please help an old, "old school" guy out if you will. So here goes. I use two Blockbuster 600 watt (Hortilux bulbs) hoods over an Aeroflow 60 site, with two light movers going from side to side. My total footprint is about 41/2 X 61/2. I'm satisfied with my grow, as it is. But I would like to get away from the heat being produced, and hopefully up the quality of my grow somewhat. (Who doesn't, right!) And cut back on the AC usage. Which of these would you suggest? And how many would I need to replace my HPS bulbs. I only flower, no real veg time in my setup. The

(1) Specification:
LEDs: CREE XLAMP CXB3590
Cooling: Passive Heatsink (No fan)
3500K Warm White
CRI: 80
umol/ watt 2.1
Forward Foltage: 36V
Max Current Drive: 3600ma
Actual Power Draw: 54 watts
COB Max Power: 132 Watts
Net weight: 1.5KG.

(2) Or the HLG- 600H with new V2 Quantum Boards.

(3) Or the Fluence SpydrX or SpyderX plus.

This may not be the place to ask. But I feel as if I somewhat know all you guys here. This is a big step for me. I've only used HID's forever, nothing else. But I don't want to stay behind, if getting up to date is the thing. Thanks for any help.

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vertnugs said:

I have a 600h.With the 288's.

If i run it wide open it is just as hot as the 600 bare bulb i ran for years.Only way i see ya cuttin down heat is cuttin down on the wattage.

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Lurrabq said:

I like your first idea, but if you only flower with it, I'd suggest 3000K, 90cct.

I hung one HLG 288 diode unit in a 2x2.5' tent, and the ambient temperature has gone up 7-9 degrees Fahrenheit.

You're still getting more lm/watt out of the LEDs though.

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Little Dog said:

Thanks my friend. I have a fan connected to both hoods with a 6'' vent line. Outside air in thru hoods and right back out. I may just purge all room air with an exhaust fan set in the ceiling with a temperature sensor attached. Set it at eighty degrees, and go from there. Purge, and then let my AC start over again fresh! Lol. Summers are tough, gotta do something. Thanks.

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Little Dog said:

Hey guys! I hope I'm not out of line with this. But this is my most favorite thread. And I certainly trust and value each one of you guys opinion. (Some a little more than others. Lol) So please help an old, "old school" guy out if you will. So here goes. I use two Blockbuster 600 watt (Hortilux bulbs) hoods over an Aeroflow 60 site, with two light movers going from side to side. My total footprint is about 41/2 X 61/2. I'm satisfied with my grow, as it is. But I would like to get away from the heat being produced, and hopefully up the quality of my grow somewhat. (Who doesn't, right!) And cut back on the AC usage. Which of these would you suggest? And how many would I need to replace my HPS bulbs. I only flower, no real veg time in my setup. The

(1) Specification:
LEDs: CREE XLAMP CXB3590
Cooling: Passive Heatsink (No fan)
3500K Warm White
CRI: 80
umol/ watt 2.1
Forward Foltage: 36V
Max Current Drive: 3600ma
Actual Power Draw: 54 watts
COB Max Power: 132 Watts
Net weight: 1.5KG.

(2) Or the HLG- 600H with new V2 Quantum Boards.

(3) Or the Fluence SpydrX or SpyderX plus.

This may not be the place to ask. But I feel as if I somewhat know all you guys here. This is a big step for me. I've only used HID's forever, nothing else. But I don't want to stay behind, if getting up to date is the thing. Thanks for any help.

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Thegermling said:

BRO, your pic reminds me of the creation of adam painting. ROFL!! Photo of the month!

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vertnugs said:

Oh i feel ya on the summers bud.

DIY is where it's at if you're willing.

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ShyGuru said:

I run 8 cxb3590 for a total 300w passively cooled in a 38x21 enclosed cabinet with only 2 axial fans to remove heat and no ac and the temp stays at 83° all year long. WeWe' talking a very tight space. 200w of compact fluorescent in the same space ran over 90° and there's no way in hell I could run any hid in there since the 600w heats up my entire bathroom. Remember with led less energy is converted to heat thru its efficiency and there is significantly less ir heat as well. Just fyi in my setup the hestsink temp is about 112°, which is less than the operating temps of most compact fluorescent bulbs. I don't have the quantum boards yet so I can't speak on those but I hear they also run cool

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Goats22 said:

my qb600h run FAR cooler than my air-cooled 600w hps did. starting this run in late winter i actually had issues with the room being way too cold, which i didn't ever experience using the hps. i had to run the heater longer than usual as a result. that being said, this panel is flowering out my 4x4 very nicely @~475w (i got it with a potentiometer)

i am really happy with the purchase. my buds are rock hard and frosted and my temps are way down. my room has yet to even hit 80 degrees this calendar year, even during the hot days.

here is where we're at as of a few days ago. some deficiencies in this shot, but those have to do with neglect from my partner, not anything to do with the lights...

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ShyGuru said:

I run 8 cxb3590 for a total 300w passively cooled in a 38x21 enclosed cabinet with only 2 axial fans to remove heat and no ac and the temp stays at 83° all year long. We're talking a very tight space. 200w of compact fluorescent in the same space ran over 90° and there's no way in hell I could run any hid in there since the 600w heats up my entire bathroom. Remember with led less energy is converted to heat thru its efficiency and there is significantly less ir heat as well. Just fyi in my setup the hestsink temp is about 112°, which is less than the operating temps of most compact fluorescent bulbs. I don't have the quantum boards yet so I can't speak on those but I hear they also run cool

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Little Dog said:

#Goats22, thanks. Could I ask one question? I run two 600's from side to side with light movers. They don't move far. But that's 1200 watts total over my 41/2 X 61/2 Aeroflow grow area. Would you think I'd need (2) 600H's to replace the (2) 600 HPS bulbs. Or could I run my light mover the long way instead of side to side. And only use the one 600H? I'm not wanting to lose production by being underpowered. But I don't need overkill either. Either way is fine. I'm just a little lost in all the information I've read over the last few days. They say ignorance is bliss. But I'm not so sure of that. I'm feeling pretty ignorant, but pretty anxious too. Any and all advice or help much appreciated.

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slow drawl said:

I'm sure there is more to come from her. But just seems there should be a bit more frost showing for 3 weeks?
Hardly any stretch from this little Deputy..View attachment 4148259

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Goats22 said:

running at the full 620w, the 600h would be 21.2w/sq ft for that footprint which isn't great, but you have the light mover so i want to think it would be fine. 2 is undoubtedly overkill. remember that at full power it will need to be 24-30 inches above the plants for optimal coverage. that being said, i am by no means the best person for questions on qbs. there is a thread on RIU all about them with a lot of people much smarter than me who will answer all your questions.

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suthrngrwr said:

How much light is that plant getting at the canopy level? If its less than ~800 PPFD, there's your problem.

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Little Dog said:

Hey guys! I hope I'm not out of line with this. But this is my most favorite thread. And I certainly trust and value each one of you guys opinion. (Some a little more than others. Lol) So please help an old, "old school" guy out if you will. So here goes. I use two Blockbuster 600 watt (Hortilux bulbs) hoods over an Aeroflow 60 site, with two light movers going from side to side. My total footprint is about 41/2 X 61/2. I'm satisfied with my grow, as it is. But I would like to get away from the heat being produced, and hopefully up the quality of my grow somewhat. (Who doesn't, right!) And cut back on the AC usage. Which of these would you suggest? And how many would I need to replace my HPS bulbs. I only flower, no real veg time in my setup. The

(1) Specification:
LEDs: CREE XLAMP CXB3590
Cooling: Passive Heatsink (No fan)
3500K Warm White
CRI: 80
umol/ watt 2.1
Forward Foltage: 36V
Max Current Drive: 3600ma
Actual Power Draw: 54 watts
COB Max Power: 132 Watts
Net weight: 1.5KG.

(2) Or the HLG- 600H with new V2 Quantum Boards.

(3) Or the Fluence SpydrX or SpyderX plus.

This may not be the place to ask. But I feel as if I somewhat know all you guys here. This is a big step for me. I've only used HID's forever, nothing else. But I don't want to stay behind, if getting up to date is the thing. Thanks for any help.

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Little Dog said:

Hey guys! I hope I'm not out of line with this. But this is my most favorite thread. And I certainly trust and value each one of you guys opinion. (Some a little more than others. Lol) So please help an old, "old school" guy out if you will. So here goes. I use two Blockbuster 600 watt (Hortilux bulbs) hoods over an Aeroflow 60 site, with two light movers going from side to side. My total footprint is about 41/2 X 61/2. I'm satisfied with my grow, as it is. But I would like to get away from the heat being produced, and hopefully up the quality of my grow somewhat. (Who doesn't, right!) And cut back on the AC usage. Which of these would you suggest? And how many would I need to replace my HPS bulbs. I only flower, no real veg time in my setup. The

(1) Specification:
LEDs: CREE XLAMP CXB3590
Cooling: Passive Heatsink (No fan)
3500K Warm White
CRI: 80
umol/ watt 2.1
Forward Foltage: 36V
Max Current Drive: 3600ma
Actual Power Draw: 54 watts
COB Max Power: 132 Watts
Net weight: 1.5KG.

(2) Or the HLG- 600H with new V2 Quantum Boards.

(3) Or the Fluence SpydrX or SpyderX plus.

This may not be the place to ask. But I feel as if I somewhat know all you guys here. This is a big step for me. I've only used HID's forever, nothing else. But I don't want to stay behind, if getting up to date is the thing. Thanks for any help.

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Bakersfield said:

Funk is good for you but a bitter substance.

I've been thinking of making some Rick Simpson oil with Ethanol and I believe the Chlorophyll from the plant is one of the ingredients that help make the whole medicine.
It's like concentrated wheat grass juice, all of the cannabinoids and terpenes - essence of the plant.

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