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F_Dupp

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You're right though its weird gps would take such a different route out of no where but as Dylan famously said "times are a changing"

I think that was Dylan anyway.
Yeah. It seems weird to spend years building a solid customer base, just to pull the rug out from under it all.

It would be one thing to add autos to the menu, but to eliminate the product that you built your success upon makes no sense. But Im sure there is some board room full of marketing executives steering this industry into the toilet in order to reach the highest profit margins possible.

As a wise man named Bill Hicks once put it-
 

Cptn

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Hi @Gu~
Noticed on the Greenpoint site that you are starting to promote the first new Fem hybrids.
The new reversed pollen donor will be an Animal Cookies cut!
Sounds promising.

One benefit of making Fem seeds with a reversed cut like this is that you can see what the pollen donor brings to the game in a female expression.
Can you share some info on this new donor and maybe some pics of her in full flower (both as a female, and beasting out male flowers when reversed?)

Also, please provide a bit of background on the cut itself:
Was she selected from original Seed Junky F1's by you? A well known cut held by others and shared with greenpoint for this work? Or maybe some other path to greatness?
Love to get any info you feel comfortable sharing.
You used to share quite a bit on some of the female cuts you would get to work with in Colorado. Hoping that transparency continues in the new model.

Thanks brother.
 

Amos Otis

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Yeah. It seems weird to spend years building a solid customer base, just to pull the rug out from under it all.

It would be one thing to add autos to the menu, but to eliminate the product that you built your success upon makes no sense.
The good news for you is that are still packs of f2 Stardawg for sale. Snatch 'em up and make your own crosses. Fill the void. That might be a good business move.

But Im sure there is some board room full of marketing executives steering this industry into the toilet in order to reach the highest profit margins possible.
Oh, ok ... sorry about the previous 'good business move' remark then.

As a wise man named Bill Hicks once put it-
I could argue the wisdom, but he was right about the one thing he kept repeating - there was no joke coming. Those are the worst kind of comics imo. The ones with no jokes.

Take my Topanga s1s ....please. ba da boom
 

bobrown14

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Fems are good even if you can have 1000s of plants. I dont understand why people think they're inferior to regs. I could post several pics to prove that point but seeing this is the greenpoint thread and these fem pics are not greenpoint I won't. But if people could prove regs out perform fems I'd love to see evidence.

Just look at many of the long lasting elite cuts. Girl scout cookies, a fem seed from a hermie. Gg4 a herm seed fem. The theory that many og cuts are hermie/s1 of the chem family or possibly the tk cut. Im sure there are others im forgetting.

Again its subjective but not definitive by any stretch of the imagination that regs out perform fems.

But photos do out perform autos in many respects.
Its not about issues with quality. A lot of folks have issues with hermies with FEM seeds. Its more common than regs but its not a show stopper for me.

Folks that run big grows cant afford to have a herm in the middle of a large number of plants.

Whatever....

I grow a lot of FEMs and I grow a lot of REGs too. I got a male right now that is a complete STUD. Hadda cut him in half to fit in a 4x4 tent 90 days of flowering. He's a Transkei Landrace.

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Snowback

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Dupp might be a little cynical but he does have a point. Big Canna, once established in the US, will race quality to the bottom in order to maximize profit. It happened in Canada after legalization. All of the LPs grew half a dozen strains of Kush or Haze, did a horrible job of it, and soured the public's perception of their products, all while selling hundreds of millions of dollars worth of stock and trading around CEOs like sportsball athletes. After the stock profits were realized, the top investors took their profits and left the companies holding the bag. Many of them have since failed and huge greenhouse facilities across Canada have been closed down. Now, Big Tobacco is buying up the leftovers so who knows where that is going to go?

Those Stardawg F2s are looking extremely tempting. Thanks for the reminder that they were still there.
 

thenotsoesoteric

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Its not about issues with quality. A lot of folks have issues with hermies with FEM seeds. Its more common than regs but its not a show stopper for me.

Folks that run big grows cant afford to have a herm in the middle of a large number of plants.

Whatever....

I grow a lot of FEMs and I grow a lot of REGs too. I got a male right now that is a complete STUD. Hadda cut him in half to fit in a 4x4 tent 90 days of flowering. He's a Transkei Landrace.

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Folks that run big grows shouldn't be running seeds at all, at least I definitely wouldn't be.
 

F_Dupp

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Im not being cynical, Im making a promise. The cannabis industry, while bigger than ever, is a sinking ship. Our evil overlords arent allowing legalization because they have any respect for freedom. They are going to bleed it dry, and stick us with a tainted shitty product thats patented by them and their cronies. Soon you wont be able to create your own seeds. They will be patented. What we have seen happen in the farming industry, due to patented GMO seeds will eventually happen with cannabis. I predict that within 15-20 years, you will struggle to find non GMO seeds of the quality we saw even 10 years ago. And they will be once again a black market item. Start hoarding seeds like it was ammunition. And just remember, that y'alls lack of awareness and complicity made the corporate takeover of our industry possible.
 

evergreengardener

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Hi @Gu~
Noticed on the Greenpoint site that you are starting to promote the first new Fem hybrids.
The new reversed pollen donor will be an Animal Cookies cut!
Sounds promising.
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Can you share some info on this new donor and maybe some pics of her in full flower (both as a female, and beasting out male flowers when reversed?)
This is the 09 animal cookies cut being used in the newest gear getting released. Here she is in full flower 0E3F1D0F-6C9F-4A4E-924F-70F30D3B5184.png
And here it is reversed full nutsack mode
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pics provided by greenpoints breeder. They are not mine
 

BurtMaklin

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Seriously? Autos? Lol, surely this is an early April fools joke.

Fem beans are a shortcut, plain and simple. Instead of putting in the time finding a viable mother and a stable male that adds to said mother using pheno hunts and testing the progeny, you can mash two elites together, and voila... you can sell half the seeds for twice the price where instead of culling males you end up culling hermi prone females.

So my main gripe is with the idea that you should expect less seeds for more money because there will be no males. Finding hermi females is a much more daunting and, potentially, costly task than finding males.

With that said I have a nice Bridezilla that stopped throwing nutz on the lowers (not even really the lowers, more like 5th to 6th nodes down the mains) that looks and smells like a winner. There are good plants in fem seeds, but I find there is no less work involved, so the only savings are for the producer, not the customer.

I'll leave the autos to millennials. Maybe they can grow them in their fedoras or an old Blundstone or something.
 

Chunky Stool

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Chunky Chunky Chunky...............................you know uncle H don't mess with that pm shit. That's flour from the pollination process. Jeez man give it up already. You are making yourself look like a hater.............................then again you already are :rolleyes:
lol
Yeah I remember seeing a video about his “pollination process”.

It was hilarious!

Thanks bro. I needed a good chuckle this morning.
 

MyBallzItch

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Chunky Chunky Chunky...............................you know uncle H don't mess with that pm shit. That's flour from the pollination process. Jeez man give it up already. You are making yourself look like a hater.............................then again you already are :rolleyes:
Uncle H? Sounds like someone u should keep the kids away from hahaha jp. Looks like he has a nice cut tho regardless of what the jizz stain may be on the leaf
 
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V256.420

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Uncle H is an interesting fellow.
He certainly is! He even gives out his awesome genetics to thousands of underprivileged adults who want to grow top notch stuff . Poor people like me who can't afford a pack of beans. But there is more!!! You don't even have to lick his crack to get a pack. Isn't that amazing? I call him names all the time and he still sends me packs. What happened when you called him names uncle Chunky? tsk tsk tsk :rolleyes:

Why don't you offer me a pack of your beans uncle Chunky? Didn't work out too well did they? :eyesmoke:
 

Chunky Stool

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He certainly is! He even gives out his awesome genetics to thousands of underprivileged adults who want to grow top notch stuff . Poor people like me who can't afford a pack of beans. But there is more!!! You don't even have to lick his crack to get a pack. Isn't that amazing? I call him names all the time and he still sends me packs. What happened when you called him names uncle Chunky? tsk tsk tsk :rolleyes:

Why don't you offer me a pack of your beans uncle Chunky? Didn't work out too well did they? :eyesmoke:
Lol x 2
You really aren’t very smart. :dunce:

“H”has a narcissistic personality disorder.
The patterns are obvious.
 
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