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natureboygrower

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I dont have the experience to disagree/agree with the theory myself,just relaying where I thought the source came from.i was not able to load your link.

Talking about Mel Frank's book , I had that book and remember reading about hermaphrodites and Fems , he had interesting theory's and that was back before fems got big too.

Yeah thats sounds like it could be it, I remember it wasn't a short read(more than a sentence or two) and it was pretty detailed. I would like to find it and prove this theory. I know most people dont believe it but from what I've seen environment has to play a role. I wish I had my experiences on video or documented, im sure it would change a lot of people's minds. Im the only one that witnessed the skunks but last yr my buddy seen it with the cheese hybrids. I guess its just one of them things your not gonna believe till you see it with your own eyes.
I'm 95% sure I read that in Cervantes' book.i'll dig it out later today.
 

quiescent

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I dont have the experience to disagree/agree with the theory myself,just relaying where I thought the source came from.i was not able to load your link.
Sex is determined at fertilization. With how slippery marijuana is sexually I wouldn't be surprised if there were some males that expressed female traits based on environmental conditions.

The link should be fixed now. Basically once your seedling is on its first real leaves you can snip some off and get the sex chromosomes checked. I've only done 10 plants and it was accurate. I'll probably use that for regular seeds from now on.
 

boybelue

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Sex is determined at fertilization. With how slippery marijuana is sexually I wouldn't be surprised if there were some males that expressed female traits based on environmental conditions.

The link should be fixed now. Basically once your seedling is on its first real leaves you can snip some off and get the sex chromosomes checked. I've only done 10 plants and it was accurate. I'll probably use that for regular seeds from now on.
Wish they wasn't so expensive though. I would like to mess around with em.
 

hillbill

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Sex is determined at fertilization. With how slippery marijuana is sexually I wouldn't be surprised if there were some males that expressed female traits based on environmental conditions.

The link should be fixed now. Basically once your seedling is on its first real leaves you can snip some off and get the sex chromosomes checked. I've only done 10 plants and it was accurate. I'll probably use that for regular seeds from now on.
We all owe a lot in life to First Adopters.
 

quiescent

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Wish they wasn't so expensive though. I would like to mess around with em.
I think it's comparable to the cost of growing a plant for 5-8 more weeks to figure it out on your own. I have so many moms going at any given time it'd be nice to keep my young veg under control and well cared for in the future. That's always been the area that gets fucked up shit happening in my garden because of overcrowding one way or another.
 
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quiescent

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We all owe a lot in life to First Adopters.
I'm sure once a few capable people see the demand and ease of operation is realized there will be competition to lower the prices. I'm not planning on paying as much per plant as the 50 pack. I'm gonna try to get it below $10/plant. If I keep popping regular seeds like I have been they'd see 3-400 a year from me.
 

boybelue

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You know a lot of people have a high percentage of success with the seed sexing thing. And I have a theory about it, it's laughable and goes against my belief of environment influenced sexing but here it goes. They say the females have a big almost perfectly round volcano shaped depression. Males are distorted smaller odd shaped. If this works I believe it's because the larger volcano shaped seeds/embryo are attached to the plant better or has a larger diameter connection or bridge between the seed and actual plant , might call it the umbilical cord. And the distorted smaller seeds would have a smaller umbilical cord. Ok so the female chromosomes come from the plant itself and the male chromosomes come from pollen attached to the pistols on the embryos side of the umbilical cord. I mean idk how it works , I'm just a dumb redneck but if the bridge to the embryo or cord was larger it would let more of the female chromosomes pass through to the embryo and if it was smaller it might not let them pass at all and it would get all its chromosomes from the pollen donor via the pistols. Idk if that makes sense to anybody , just my theory. Then again the female chromosomes could be present in the embryo from tha get go.
 

GrowRijt

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Haters gon hate ainters gon aint.
Money talks bullshit runs the marathon homie.what u got besides some gu fromunda cheese on them lips.
Aside from the taste of my Jelly Pie wake n bake, I have a lifetime of relevant experience on these lips. I've been writing code and growing cannabis since Jeff Bezos had hair. I'm sure it is hard to see the world as it really is while wearing Logic's Arabian Goggles.

When I told you to open your own shop I was kidding, you just come off as a complete know it all who proclaims to be an expert at everything. Good luck brotato chip! Remember there is an entire legion of keyboard warriors ( Just like you ) ready to tear you a new one when you drop of bunch of garbage seeds. Of course your boss Logic will still sell them for you probably.

Tick tock, 2 weeks is coming up fast. Here is an example of some light reading you should be doing to get your endeavor off the ground.


 

boybelue

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Aside from the taste of my Jelly Pie wake n bake, I have a lifetime of relevant experience on these lips. I've been writing code and growing cannabis since Jeff Bezos had hair. I'm sure it is hard to see the world as it really is while wearing Logic's Arabian Goggles.

When I told you to open your own shop I was kidding, you just come off as a complete know it all who proclaims to be an expert at everything. Good luck brotato chip! Remember there is an entire legion of keyboard warriors ( Just like you ) ready to tear you a new one when you drop of bunch of garbage seeds. Of course your boss Logic will still sell them for you probably.

Tick tock, 2 weeks is coming up fast. Here is an example of some light reading you should be doing to get your endeavor off the ground.


Man that books probably over my head! Lol
 

growslut

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Aside from the taste of my Jelly Pie wake n bake, I have a lifetime of relevant experience on these lips. I've been writing code and growing cannabis since Jeff Bezos had hair. I'm sure it is hard to see the world as it really is while wearing Logic's Arabian Goggles.

When I told you to open your own shop I was kidding, you just come off as a complete know it all who proclaims to be an expert at everything. Good luck brotato chip! Remember there is an entire legion of keyboard warriors ( Just like you ) ready to tear you a new one when you drop of bunch of garbage seeds. Of course your boss Logic will still sell them for you probably.

Tick tock, 2 weeks is coming up fast. Here is an example of some light reading you should be doing to get your endeavor off the ground.


Its going to be funny when Heisen has to start dealing with customer service :lol:
 

nobighurry

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I think it was in Ed Rosenthals book. Could be wrong, a buddy had it in the early 90’s. ‘‘Twas our only source of info back then.*edit Looking back I think we had Mel Franks book. Marijuana Growers Guide.
I still have my copy of Eds growers guide, there were not many out there in the 80s-90s, bought mine at a head shop, it learned me a couple things, it wasn't all stoner lore...
 

Heisenbubble

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Its going to be funny when Heisen has to start dealing with customer service :lol:
Yeah well the difference will be A ill have pictures of all the moms,B there wont be any males in fems period end of story,And C every strain will be tested thoroughly before anything is released besides S1s.S1s are just what they are S1s.How these breeders are just making chucks and selling them as testers is unbelievable to me.I think every breeder needs a list of qualified growers willing to test there genetics as well as the breeder themself putting a few dozen of them on a flood table or similar hydro setup and doing a run to at least test for stabilitly and lack of banana ass plants.
 

SoHappy101

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Yeah well the difference will be A ill have pictures of all the moms,B there wont be any males in fems period end of story,And C every strain will be tested thoroughly before anything is released besides S1s.S1s are just what they are S1s.How these breeders are just making chucks and selling them as testers is unbelievable to me.I think every breeder needs a list of qualified growers willing to test there genetics as well as the breeder themself putting a few dozen of them on a flood table or similar hydro setup and doing a run to at least test for stabilitly and lack of banana ass plants.

Your logo looks a little Humboldt ish.

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Just sayin
 

CAPT CHESAPEAKE

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no baggies with banana peels?[/
I still have my copy of Eds growers guide, there were not many out there in the 80s-90s, bought mine at a head shop, it learned me a couple things, it wasn't all stoner lore...
I am trying to think of the name of that book(pamphlet) that was published in the 70's i think. Sure did make growing very complected. I be leave they even had a chapter on grafting Hops to cannabis plants. Maybe yours is the one i am thinking about.
 

boybelue

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I still have my copy of Eds growers guide, there were not many out there in the 80s-90s, bought mine at a head shop, it learned me a couple things, it wasn't all stoner lore...
The one I had was the Deluxe Marijuana Growers Guide by Mel Frank and Oliver Williams. It was a white paperback.
 

jayblaze710

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Aside from the taste of my Jelly Pie wake n bake, I have a lifetime of relevant experience on these lips. I've been writing code and growing cannabis since Jeff Bezos had hair. I'm sure it is hard to see the world as it really is while wearing Logic's Arabian Goggles.

When I told you to open your own shop I was kidding, you just come off as a complete know it all who proclaims to be an expert at everything. Good luck brotato chip! Remember there is an entire legion of keyboard warriors ( Just like you ) ready to tear you a new one when you drop of bunch of garbage seeds. Of course your boss Logic will still sell them for you probably.

Tick tock, 2 weeks is coming up fast. Here is an example of some light reading you should be doing to get your endeavor off the ground.


Is it 1998 again and websites are being made just with just HTML and CSS?

Anyone should be able to get the basics of HTML and CSS in a weekend. CSS is a giant pain in the ass and is often incredibly cointerintuitive, but the basics are very simple.

The hard part of building a website comes with adding more complex functionality which would require JavaScript or PHP or Python. That’s just the front end stuff. The backend, from building the server, managing the database, and deploying it is no joke either.

Or you could just make a wordpress site and use their themes and plugins. Way, way, way simpler than building a whole website from scratch. Problem is, as soon as you want to add some unique functionality, nobody has the real programming skills to do it. It’s why GPS nuggets kept fucking up, despite it being something that should’ve been super simple to implement. Their tech guys know Wordpress and that’s it. It’s why they couldn’t remove an item from their navigation bar for the longest time.
 

jayblaze710

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You know a lot of people have a high percentage of success with the seed sexing thing. And I have a theory about it, it's laughable and goes against my belief of environment influenced sexing but here it goes. They say the females have a big almost perfectly round volcano shaped depression. Males are distorted smaller odd shaped. If this works I believe it's because the larger volcano shaped seeds/embryo are attached to the plant better or has a larger diameter connection or bridge between the seed and actual plant , might call it the umbilical cord. And the distorted smaller seeds would have a smaller umbilical cord. Ok so the female chromosomes come from the plant itself and the male chromosomes come from pollen attached to the pistols on the embryos side of the umbilical cord. I mean idk how it works , I'm just a dumb redneck but if the bridge to the embryo or cord was larger it would let more of the female chromosomes pass through to the embryo and if it was smaller it might not let them pass at all and it would get all its chromosomes from the pollen donor via the pistols. Idk if that makes sense to anybody , just my theory. Then again the female chromosomes could be present in the embryo from tha get go.
Every single female seed gets one X chromosome from the mom and one X from the dad. Every single seed gets equal numbers of one chromosome from each parent. If it didn’t, it leads to severe issues. Finally, pollination occurs well, well before the seed shell even begins to develop and the female chromosomes are already present within the ovules in the flower. There is no corollary to an umbilical cord in plants.

Also in humans it’s not like sperm travels through the umbilical cord to fertilize an egg either.
 
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