Greenpoint seeds!!

Chunky Stool

Chunky Stool

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Yodaweed said:
What strains? I personally found some really tasty phenos of bogglegum and sour boggle. Not the frostiest but very flavorful the sour boggle was decent frost levels i'd put them in the 15-20% THC range, there's lots of genetics that got great flavor that arent' super frosty and there is plenty of very frosty strains that have no flavor or taste like shit.

Could be growing technique tho, i know i get a lot different flavors when i grow organically compared to my salt grows, the hydro definitely comes out frosty but for flavor organic is the way to go.
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Semi-organic is the way to go.
Then you don't need huge pots to grow trees. 8)

@quiescent I gave my outdoor girls a little pruvian seabird guano tea yesterday. (+K2SO4)
If they puff up I'm gonna be pissed... :P
 
Tangerine_

Tangerine_

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Bubby'sndalab said:
Go ahead- nobody gives a fuck what u do-you might wanna read the thread again-guy has 1 male & throws it at females-it is what it is-call it what u want-its pretty transparent
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Not just this thread...its laid out ON the site in great detail.
Actually, if I thought the mother was picked from some seeds I'd pass. I want to know the real deal Holyfield cut was used...regardless of the breeder/seller/seed maker.

This thread can get so comically bi-polar.
 
Bakersfield

Bakersfield

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Amos Otis said:
So you're geographically blessed and all the best clones are in your neighborhood. I probably wouldn't buy seeds either in that circumstance. But there's no elite clone sellers near the Ponderosa, so...

I spent $42 for copper chem on auction, and have 10 other GPS packs that didn't cost over $30. No reason to complain over here.
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Location location!
Anyone anywhere can have elite clones shipped to them.
One outfit in Southern California has a very good reputation doing this.
However, I would rather buy seeds and grow out plants than risk my freedom with the federales, shipping live plants.
If I lived in an area with great access to clones
I would still grow a few beans for fun, for the hobby of it.
I can buy lbs of grade A grown from elite clone weed in Seattle from my people for $900 a lb. Wholesale.
If I lived there, I wouldn't even grow weed, I'd just buy it, especially with their cost of real estate for a setup
 
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jayblaze710

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Yodaweed said:
I'm becoming less and less impressed with GPS, just realized they just went to a local dispensary(kind love its like an hour from me[noticed when i looked at their weedmaps menu to pickup some sunset sherbet clones]) picked up a bunch of their clones and pollen chucked them now are cashing in. To me that's not even breeding, i bet most of these seeds are untested pollen chucks. Worst part is they didn't even say they were from a dispo i legit have the same access to these cuts as the pollen chucker does i really feel like i wasted my time. I already know this is a B quality plant, i'm pretty sure this whole pack is a bust. I hate wasting my time on grows.

I honestly don't know what's worse, the pollen chucking to a dispensaries clones or the fact you copy and pasted the dispensaries clone description as your grow description.....

Next time when your doing some backyard breeding at least give the source credit if you aren't sourcing your own plants.
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Before I start, you’re annoying as shit, and so often pick an idiotic hill to die on. But, ugh, in this case you’re right.

You’re just now figuring this out?! This is Gu’s whole business plan. Get every single popular clone he can get his hands on, make as many seeds as possible as cheaply as possible, and then push them out the door as quickly as possible. That means no testing. No popping seeds at all. No pheno hunting for future breedings. His breeding plans amount to “what other popular clones can I get my hands on?” and no additional thought beyond that. It’s been that way since he got the Stardawg male, and I see no signs it’s going to change any time soon.

GPS is the Walmart of cannabis seeds. Cheap, knock-off seeds for people that can’t afford or don’t have access to the real thing.

whytewidow said:
You dont have access to the stardawg male pollen he has. Which is what breeds so well. It's not the mothers. And why does it matter if the clones came from dispensary or a person?
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Gu was also given his male. He didn’t select it himself.

What exactly is the Stardawg male adding to these crosses that is making them so desirable? I mean, seriously, everyone is popping these seeds hoping for a mom leaner. Whenever someone asks how a cross is doing, it’s essentially code for “is the mom coming through at all?”. It’s crazy that there’s a thread full of people with dozens of Stardawg crosses, hoping to find plants that don’t resemble Stardawg.

Seriously, nobody is buying these packs because of the Stardawg male. They’re buying them because of the Cookies and Cream, or Wedding Cake, or Gelato 33, or Sundae Driver, or FPOG. Ask anyone if they’d prefer the GPS cross or a clone of the mom, every single person would want the mom.

I know I hate on Gu a lot, but my problem isn’t even with Gu. I get the feeling Gu understands the niche he’s built in the cannabis industry. He sells cheap pollen chucks. He makes good money off of it and he’s found a way to maximize profits. I have zero problem with that. (Side note - I do have some issues with his business practices - like the CC processor, and everything about the S1 fiasco).

My problem is with people worshipping Gu on this forum acting like he’s an amazing breeder doing a service to the community. How can someone be a breeder if he hasn’t selected a single plant that he’s bred with in the past ~2 years?! We know for a fact he doesn’t test his crosses. His packs are cheap because that’s what they’re worth, and cheap packs means he can maximize his profits. He’s not selling them cheap out of the kindness of his heart.
 
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boybelue

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jayblaze710 said:
Before I start, you’re annoying as shit, and so often pick an idiotic hill to die on. But, ugh, in this case you’re right.

You’re just now figuring this out?! This is Gu’s whole business plan. Get every single popular clone he can get his hands on, make as many seeds as possible as cheaply as possible, and then push them out the door as quickly as possible. That means no testing. No popping seeds at all. No pheno hunting for future breedings. His breeding plans amount to “what other popular clones can I get my hands on?” and no additional thought beyond that. It’s been that way since he got the Stardawg male, and I see no signs it’s going to change any time soon.

GPS is the Walmart of cannabis seeds. Cheap, knock-off seeds for people that can’t afford or don’t have access to the real thing.



Gu was also given his male. He didn’t select it himself.

What exactly is the Stardawg male adding to these crosses that is making them so desirable? I mean, seriously, everyone is popping these seeds hoping for a mom leaner. Whenever someone asks how a cross is doing, it’s essentially code for “is the mom coming through at all?”. It’s crazy that there’s a thread full of people with dozens of Stardawg crosses, hoping to find plants that don’t resemble Stardawg.

Seriously, nobody is buying these packs because of the Stardawg male. They’re buying them because of the Cookies and Cream, or Wedding Cake, or Gelato 33, or Sundae Driver, or FPOG. Ask anyone if they’d prefer the GPS cross or a clone of the mom, every single person would want the mom.

I know I hate on Gu a lot, but my problem isn’t even with Gu. I get the feeling Gu understands the niche he’s built in the cannabis industry. He sells cheap pollen chucks. He makes good money off of it and he’s found a way to maximize profits. I have zero problem with that. (Side note - I do have some issues with his business practices - like the CC processor, and everything about the S1 fiasco).

My problem is with people worshipping Gu on this forum acting like he’s an amazing breeder doing a service to the community. How can someone be a breeder if he hasn’t selected a single plant that he’s bred with in the past ~2 years?! We know for a fact he doesn’t test his crosses. His packs are cheap because that’s what they’re worth, and cheap packs means he can maximize his profits. He’s not selling them cheap out of the kindness of his heart.
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If he starts out with a elite female and a proven male , what need is there to do a selection? Testing maybe
 
Chunky Stool

Chunky Stool

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Bakersfield said:
Location location!
Anyone anywhere can have elite clones shipped to them.
One outfit in Southern California has a very good reputation doing this.
However, I would rather buy seeds and grow out plants than risk my freedom with the federales, shipping live plants.
If I lived in an area with great access to clones
I would still grow a few beans for fun, for the hobby of it.
I can buy lbs of grade A grown from elite clone weed in Seattle from my people for $900 a lb. Wholesale.
If I lived there, I wouldn't even grow weed, I'd just buy it, especially with their cost of real estate for a setup
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You've gotta know growers to get deals like that in the Seattle area!
Last time I went to a dispensary, top shelf herb was still around $250/oz -- but it's been a few years.
 
Tangerine_

Tangerine_

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jayblaze710 said:
Before I start, you’re annoying as shit, and so often pick an idiotic hill to die on. But, ugh, in this case you’re right.

You’re just now figuring this out?! This is Gu’s whole business plan. Get every single popular clone he can get his hands on, make as many seeds as possible as cheaply as possible, and then push them out the door as quickly as possible. That means no testing. No popping seeds at all. No pheno hunting for future breedings. His breeding plans amount to “what other popular clones can I get my hands on?” and no additional thought beyond that. It’s been that way since he got the Stardawg male, and I see no signs it’s going to change any time soon.

GPS is the Walmart of cannabis seeds. Cheap, knock-off seeds for people that can’t afford or don’t have access to the real thing.



Gu was also given his male. He didn’t select it himself.

What exactly is the Stardawg male adding to these crosses that is making them so desirable? I mean, seriously, everyone is popping these seeds hoping for a mom leaner. Whenever someone asks how a cross is doing, it’s essentially code for “is the mom coming through at all?”. It’s crazy that there’s a thread full of people with dozens of Stardawg crosses, hoping to find plants that don’t resemble Stardawg.

Seriously, nobody is buying these packs because of the Stardawg male. They’re buying them because of the Cookies and Cream, or Wedding Cake, or Gelato 33, or Sundae Driver, or FPOG. Ask anyone if they’d prefer the GPS cross or a clone of the mom, every single person would want the mom.

I know I hate on Gu a lot, but my problem isn’t even with Gu. I get the feeling Gu understands the niche he’s built in the cannabis industry. He sells cheap pollen chucks. He makes good money off of it and he’s found a way to maximize profits. I have zero problem with that. (Side note - I do have some issues with his business practices - like the CC processor, and everything about the S1 fiasco).

My problem is with people worshipping Gu on this forum acting like he’s an amazing breeder doing a service to the community. How can someone be a breeder if he hasn’t selected a single plant that he’s bred with in the past ~2 years?! We know for a fact he doesn’t test his crosses. His packs are cheap because that’s what they’re worth, and cheap packs means he can maximize his profits. He’s not selling them cheap out of the kindness of his heart.
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Its not some big secret though. You, yourself have posted this info countless times. Its been stated over and over to the point its become redundant.

So, if you purchase a pack of seeds at GP without knowing its just an elite clone hit with his Stardawg you're either a very new grower, willfully ignorant....or both.
 
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jayblaze710

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boybelue said:
If he starts out with a elite female and a proven male , what need is there to do a selection? Testing maybe
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That’s up to you. It’s a personal decision to determine if testing matters to you or not.

The bigger problem is that Gu doesn’t make it clear that his new crosses are not tested. When they are tested it just means his paying customers have grown them. He makes up stories saying he’s selling testers due to demand, except he’s been doing this for a long time now. Plus, while some new crosses are labeled testers on the site, others aren’t.

Finally, the MAC1 cross. Gu was planning on selling the MAC1 cross. I get the impression he’s decided not to because I made it abundantly clear that MAC1 crosses are garbage. They have very low germ rates, and they throw awful runty, mutant offspring. I saw someone on IG pop 50 seeds and only ended up with one viable plant in the end. Those would’ve been sold, completely untested.

Bodhi has proven males and females. He still tests every single cross he sells. Because, even with good genetics, not all crosses are good crosses.

As for selections, I prefer to support breeders that are actually advancing the field of cannabis breeding. Breeders that select their own male, and try to create something new. If that doesn’t matter to you, cool. Just stop pretending that GPS belongs in the same category as a breeder who actually is putting in the work to develop something new.
 
Amos Otis

Amos Otis

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Bakersfield said:
Location location!
Anyone anywhere can have elite clones shipped to them.
One outfit in Southern California has a very good reputation doing this.
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You know...I've heard about this. Even looked into it, but I decided not to do it...can't remember why....

Bakersfield said:
However, I would rather buy seeds and grow out plants than risk my freedom with the federales, shipping live plants.
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Oh yeah ! That's it ! o_O
 
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boybelue

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From what I've seen or read from these forums growers want the selection for themselves, the top 3 newer breeders just knock up proven clones so all they select for is a good male or males for structure, potency, trichs, disease resistance that let the female pass the taste mainly. And leave the f2 diversity to the buyer. People like different stuff/ phenos, so that might be why breeders dont stabilize so there's completely different phenos instead of one uniform type. But testing , I said maybe, should have said preferred. Anybody would rather know there not getting garbage.
 
Bodyne

Bodyne

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boybelue said:
From what I've seen or read from these forums growers want the selection for themselves, the top 3 newer breeders just knock up proven clones so all they select for is a good male or males for structure, potency, trichs, disease resistance that let the female pass the taste mainly. And leave the f2 diversity to the buyer. People like different stuff/ phenos, so that might be why breeders dont stabilize so there's completely different phenos instead of one uniform type. But testing , I said maybe, should have said preferred. Anybody would rather know there not getting garbage.
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check out the generous folks in the chuckers section. No garbage there and at a significant discount, I might add. And same genetics, just some pheno hunting involved, better for the consumer.
 
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