Greenpoint seeds!!

klx said:

Yes same. Smaller ones fairly subtle on the nose actually. Not overly chemmy but not unpleasant. Faster finishing.

Bigger up and down phenos all chem but again not super strong. Will go 10 weeks +

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Yea my bigger pheno wouldn’t stop throwing new pistils I took it around 10 or 11 weeks, didn’t want it to start Fox tailing bad. Smoke was fire though so was the taste. This my first round with the smaller pheno hoping the smoke and taste is equally as good

Another Tennessee Kush #2 about to come down..She's a good stone ..very relaxing and lvtk about to start budding

Gu~ said:

We compete for the same market. There is no buddy buddy here.

Apple once said: "Buy our phones, they don't explode" in reference to Samsung having a major flaw in it's products.

I'm more than happy to point out these bearded children behind these brands that care little to none wether you have a good experience with their seeds.

Check those comments. Your fav breeders all showing you how little they care.

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I agree with the view on this. Posting a customer's message on IG to blast him/her???? While DVG has some fire gear at least from the humble Pie I grew (obtained from @Gu~ ) I think it is a bit odd that he comes off as an intended dick with his choice of words. I actually unfollowed him because for a little while he posted some things about some music artists at the time who he thought were fags/queers and all about tight jeans. Like what the hell? I unfollowed not because his gear isnt fire, but because behind all the stuff he kind of does have some shitty views/things he says. That part is quite immature. You have a successful business and seed game career, keep that stupid ass high school shit to yourself and off your business page. His response to the people saying that but in a very nice manner, was hey you don't like it then get the f off my page. It is mine and i can say whatever I want. This is the industry where stuff like that can hang and people will be ok with it because there is some market for it. Could you imagine if that was an airline company or even a small taco shop???? But honestly hes one of those people I follow still now because of the info. You still have to separate the bs from the gold nugget info to help yourself along. I think he sends mixed messages that hes helping people when he says things the way he does, and then his gear is very expensive. No doubt the dude does a bunch and has done a bunch for People, can't deny those actions of kindness and that is awesome of him. The humble is total fire, don't get me wrong. But breeders need to realize not everyone grows and sells. So i can get way more strains from Gu and do, and they really are just as good/the same. Then you add i got like 2-5 strains for the price of one DVG pack when factoring in nuggets/sales. Now who is helping more? In my opinion, its quite easy to charge a huge fee and then give out a bunch of your own product because it is not really costing you the sale price. I do like how he calls some festivals out for not being fair to him though, so this is the same thing Gu is doing. Then posting all about his shrooms is quite interesting as well lol. Those are things that already steer me away from that.

I like Gu he does way more to try and make people happy, and I think that says more because if the gear isnt good, well he will pay for it in customer service headaches and replacements. That says to the customer I think my product is that good i will stand behind it. DVG could say a similar thing like hey you wont always get a keeper, but not in the choice of words he does and posting the customer message and blasting on IG. That is bullshit saying he dont give a shit about you as a customer.

If you really come down to it, I got cookies n chem for a great price. Can I really justify paying like 8x or more money for one single strain from a breeder, for it to be basically the same quality but just different strains? Hell no. It is the same quality but way more expensive.

Kronickeeper said:

Yea my bigger pheno wouldn’t stop throwing new pistils I took it around 10 or 11 weeks, didn’t want it to start Fox tailing bad. Smoke was fire though so was the taste. This my first round with the smaller pheno hoping the smoke and taste is equally as good

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Ill let you know when I have a little tester in a week or so

klx said:

I'm not trying to start something here, but I see this sort of thing a lot from people in the US. What exactly do you mean by this statement? What is a "knock off genetic"? Why are seed sellers "shady" just because they are from overseas (from the US)?

I have grown plenty of seeds from Spanish, Dutch, US, Australian, Kiwi, Canadian breeders and I can honestly say this superiority complex that some people in the States have is laughable. There is fire everywhere. Many breeders in the US are so obsessed with being first to market, there is zero testing, herms and nanners all over the shop. The bitching and crying on IG from US breeders borders on pitiful. So whats the deal?

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100% this^

The elites in the US have been very successful at convincing the population to dumb down. The US is slowly becoming a version of Mike Judge's movie Idiocracy. "USA, USA, USA" lol. It's a very shameful time to be an intelligent person in the States these days.

klx said:

Ill let you know when I have a little tester in a week or so

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Ok thanks

Oh, the whiney asses that complain about USA.

thenotsoesoteric said:

100% this^

The elites in the US have been very successful at convincing the population to dumb down. The US is slowly becoming a version of Mike Judge's movie Idiocracy. "USA, USA, USA" lol. It's a very shameful time to be an intelligent person in the States these days.

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Dude...have you tried feeding your plants electrolytes? Plants crave 'em.


Kinda reminds me of some of the stupid shit on these forums actually...are we sure Idiocracy isn't a documentary?

Spondylo Grow said:

Can't believe you would stoop to throwing shade at DVG publicly like this. How about the hundreds of free seeds he has been giving away (just on instagram) in the free pack a day seed give away? I bet those are some happy customers. Along with 99% of the people growing his gear. DVG is killing it doing his own thing.

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I just won today haha. I'm happy

Kronickeeper said:

Ok thanks

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Here she is just chopped at day 64

Thegermling said:

I saw a video that had Scott, from Nectar For The Gods, and he said that molasses is too thick for the microbes to feed on that in fact it suffocates them. He recommends to buy their thin running molasses (Persephones palate or some shit). Anybody else hear something similar about molasses being too thick for the microbes to feed on?

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I've heard this and that their sugars are more complex. Not sure if that is true, but I do know molasses is a byproduct from the centrifugal process that separates the brown sugar sucrose Crystal's. So unless its amended then shouldn't it have less sucrose? I saw a recipe for making your own sweet and raw with brown sugar and boiled water.

Spondylo Grow said:

Can't believe you would stoop to throwing shade at DVG publicly like this. How about the hundreds of free seeds he has been giving away (just on instagram) in the free pack a day seed give away? I bet those are some happy customers. Along with 99% of the people growing his gear. DVG is killing it doing his own thing.

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99%?
Please share your statistics (source, sample size, margin of error, etc).

I

40AmpstoFreedom said:

Beautiful picture haven't seen a sunset or rise that pretty since my 200 mile out trips in the Atlantic for a week at a time. Been a very long time miss it.

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I got this and about 6 other cool pics out on the water when fishing this year
I can't remember quite burn in sure it was the last summer's day sunset so was a cool moment in the scheme of things

Gu~ said:

Saw an interesting post today by Dungeons Vault Genetics on IG.

It was a screenshot of customer communication. The customer's question was about dissatisfaction with DVG seeds and DVG's unwillingness to make the customer happy.

I would advise anyone with an IG account to read the comments and take stock of the ALL THE BREEDERS who don't give a flying fuck about wether you are happy with their seeds.

Take note and stay away.

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I saw this too and the guy said he is "very picky". I don't think the guy deserved a fuckin thing, but as a business it's pretty dumb to not give him something. By not doing so he now has someone who probably won't purchase again and instead of showing his genetics and talking about it he will be doing it with someone else and most likely talking bad about DVG on top of that. I think it was bad to put this guy on blast publicly.

I do also empathize with breeders when it comes to pack guarantees under prohibition though. Prohibition just makes it really fuckin hard to have good customer service if you care about safety.

Having said that Gu has some of the best if not the best customer service in the game.

Seems like the seed business is like the wild west -- lots of scammers.
And plenty of idiots too.

Most of the time we don't have all the info and end up making assumptions.
A good example of this is cult classics seeds.
Some growers have had good luck with CC beans.
I bought a couple packs of bad seeds (Jupiter & Beyond) but got 3 replacement packs (different strains).
Am I happy?
Meh, sort of.
Glad they replaced their defective product, but I have no idea if the replacements are any good.

Wild west, pew pew!

Lurpin said:

I've heard this and that their sugars are more complex. Not sure if that is true, but I do know molasses is a byproduct from the centrifugal process that separates the brown sugar sucrose Crystal's. So unless its amended then shouldn't it have less sucrose? I saw a recipe for making your own sweet and raw with brown sugar and boiled water.

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Im not sure I was just wondering if people ever heard of that statement.

40AmpstoFreedom said:

I saw this too and the guy said he is "very picky". I don't think the guy deserved a fuckin thing, but as a business it's pretty dumb to not give him something. By not doing so he now has someone who probably won't purchase again and instead of showing his genetics and talking about it he will be doing it with someone else and most likely talking bad about DVG on top of that. I think it was bad to put this guy on blast publicly.

I do also empathize with breeders when it comes to pack guarantees under prohibition though. Prohibition just makes it really fuckin hard to have good customer service if you care about safety.

Having said that Gu has some of the best if not the best customer service in the game.

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Posting the shit wasnt a great look for dvg... But I wouldnt have given dude a fukn thing, not even a response.. Gu has definitely done right by people, myself included, but I dont think any breeder should be on the hook for a "Mr. Picky".. If seeds dont germ, that's one thing.. but replacement packs because dude is a picky bitch?? nahhh

In life, people like Mr. Picky tend to ruin things for the rest of us decent motherfukers

i know the great clone debate of 2018 is now completed, but i wanted to add one note about cloning that i have found personally. i've cloned in a glass of water, rockwool, coco, peat and plugs. they all work if used properly. the thing i find that matters a lot more than medium or rooting agent is conditions for the cuts. if temp/humidity are fine and you keep your medium appropriately "wet" then they will all work. maybe some will shave a day or two off, but they will all work if you keep conditions happy for rooting.

Goats22 said:

i know the great clone debate of 2018 is now completed, but i wanted to add one note about cloning that i have found personally. i've cloned in a glass of water, rockwool, coco, peat and plugs. they all work if used properly. the thing i find that matters a lot more than medium or rooting agent is conditions for the cuts. if temp/humidity are fine and you keep your medium appropriately "wet" then they will all work. maybe some will shave a day or two off, but they will all work if you keep conditions happy for rooting.

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You are wrong.

Healthy mums is the key to good clones imo.