Greenpoint seeds!!

nc208 · Aug 12, 2018

I fell for it too. Their checkout let me order it in to Canada not seeing that part about the certain states. If you can only get it in a few states then why let someone choose country and so on for shipping and payment.

nc208 · Aug 12, 2018

Is everything back to normal operations now?
Are the auctions gone for good?

NugHeuser · Aug 12, 2018

nc208 said:
I fell for it too. Their checkout let me order it in to Canada not seeing that part about the certain states. If you can only get it in a few states then why let someone choose country and so on for shipping and payment.

Exactly! Fucking shadyness. I mean come on, all the scams going on the seed game from breeders and that isn't enough? Gonna get some people over 5 bucks on bennies too? Lmao people are crazy.

Dave455 · Aug 12, 2018

natureboygrower said:
Well,I've finally discovered why I've been having problems in veg since winter...all promix is not the same.thought it strange that my raindance seedlings were so pale and the other seedlings not.i used up a bag of promix "all-purpose" rather than bx on the raindance.i didnt want a whole bale of bx kicking around in the middle of winter so I bought a small bag of 'all purpose' thinking it the same.it's not.the healthy looking plants are moondance and the raindance are the pale ones that have since been replanted in bx.you can see the bx has way more perlite.ive struggled for a few months now with that shitty soil,glad I used some bx right next to the all purpose .I thought it was probably my environment.
View attachment 4179679 here's a crappy pic of my gunslinger in my water only coots mix.looks like I have some clawing indicating a N tox,but it doesnt seem to be hurting it much?I'm happy so far.my cob is making it look much lighter green than it actually is.4 weeks from 12/12 flip.
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use megacrop nutrients !!

sourgummy · Aug 12, 2018

NugHeuser said:
Exactly! Fucking shadyness. I mean come on, all the scams going on the seed game from breeders and that isn't enough? Gonna get some people over 5 bucks on bennies too? Lmao people are crazy.

most likely they would have to change their whole website for one product to make it so you can't order from another state. Either way you got an email with a refund. That's far from a scam. Let's be realistic here people come on.

Chunky Stool · Aug 12, 2018

natureboygrower said:
Thank you for the advice.kelp,crab meal and gypsum all in the mix.after taking it out of my cab,I do see it's starting to lose some greenness.love the tip on more gypsum and the tea,I may just do that to up terp production. One thing I've noticed with my mix(grew out a goji in this mix a grow back) is the lack of 'frost' production.but that goji was one of the best tasting plants I've grown.ima look into all your advice ,appreciate it.do you think it's too late to topdress with crabmeal?
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I'd just go with a mild steeped tea.
Alfalfa, kelp, Indonesian bat guano, K2SO4 & epsom.

Peruvian seabird guano is awesome, but it's relatively high in N and could make your buds fluffy.

blowincherrypie · Aug 12, 2018

sourgummy said:
most likely they would have to change their whole website for one product to make it so you can't order from another state. Either way you got an email with a refund. That's far from a scam. Let's be realistic here people come on.

I dont think he did fam.. I had to re-read it but..

NugHeuser said:
... If I get an email saying sorry we cant ship to you, with a refund, I'll eat all this. ...

Cptn · Aug 12, 2018

what if the company sends it anyway, even though they say they won't?
Might be worth waiting a week to see what's going to happen.

blowincherrypie · Aug 12, 2018

Cptn said:
what if the company sends it anyway, even though they say they won't?
Might be worth waiting a week to see what's going to happen.

ya.. Ive delt with other companies/products where that's been the case. When the bean game started warming up in the US a few banks said they wanted you to send a copy of your "medical docs".. All it took was a link to a journal or two and the beans were in the mail.

quiescent · Aug 12, 2018

Chunky Stool said:
I'd just go with a mild steeped tea.
Alfalfa, kelp, Indonesian bat guano, K2SO4 & epsom.

Peruvian seabird guano is awesome, but it's relatively high in N and could make your buds fluffy.

I'd say the hormones and high availability of n in the alfalfa would make for more spindly, leafy buds. Alfalfa should stop being used around week 3. Same issue with kelp, don't want to use that too late either as it delays finishing after week 6ish on 9-10 week strains.

Been using psg until weeks 5-6 on 9-10 week strains and weeks 6-7 for 10-12 week strains for over a decade with dense, not any leafier than would be expected buds. Those pellets don't totally dissolve, especially if you use a teabag, no way it's getting everything listed on the box in the tea with a 36-48 hour brew.

NugHeuser · Aug 12, 2018

sourgummy said:
most likely they would have to change their whole website for one product to make it so you can't order from another state. Either way you got an email with a refund. That's far from a scam. Let's be realistic here people come on.

No you mis read. I did not get an email with a refund. That's what I'm saying, if they send me one I'll eat everything I said about it.

Goats22 · Aug 12, 2018

Heisengrow said:
Where did you find it and how do you like it?

i ordered from hydroponic research directly. however, being in canada they raped me at the border in import taxes ($52).
i am going to reach out to them on ig before i order again and see if they have a canadian distributor. i know the person who answers the phone when you call the number on facebook is in vancouver as well, so fingers crossed i can avoid that extra cost, because it makes it significantly more expensive.

in terms of how the +life works, so far it seems great. my 3g cloth pots had roots shooting out all sides and the bottom in under a week after transplanting from solo cups, so it is seemingly working really well, but it's only been a couple weeks of using it so i am not ready to say it's any kind of miracle product.

Lurpin · Aug 12, 2018

Goats22 said:
i ordered from hydroponic research directly. however, being in canada they raped me at the border in import taxes ($52).
i am going to reach out to them on ig before i order again and see if they have a canadian distributor. i know the person who answers the phone when you call the number on facebook is in vancouver as well, so fingers crossed i can avoid that extra cost, because it makes it significantly more expensive.

in terms of how the +life works, so far it seems great. my 3g cloth pots had roots shooting out all sides and the bottom in under a week after transplanting from solo cups, so it is seemingly working really well, but it's only been a couple weeks of using it so i am not ready to say it's any kind of miracle product.

I was gonna start using their two part and the shine booster. You ever tried that? Have you used recharge? Do life and recharge compare at all? Do you have an opinion on which one might be better? I've gone beneficials crazy. I use to be nuts about them until I switched to GH, I'm realizing I may be able to use them with synthetics. I'm trying to jump on that train.

Thanks for the info in advanced goats

Chunky Stool · Aug 12, 2018

quiescent said:
I'd say the hormones and high availability of n in the alfalfa would make for more spindly, leafy buds. Alfalfa should stop being used around week 3. Same issue with kelp, don't want to use that too late either as it delays finishing after week 6ish on 9-10 week strains.

Been using psg until weeks 5-6 on 9-10 week strains and weeks 6-7 for 10-12 week strains for over a decade with dense, not any leafier than would be expected buds. Those pellets don't totally dissolve, especially if you use a teabag, no way it's getting everything listed on the box in the tea with a 36-48 hour brew.

Gotta go easy on the alfalfa. It's all about the ratios and whether or not you use the solids in the bottom of the bucket.
I had not heard that about kelp. Why would it delay finish?
I've heard that too much calcium can delay finish, but it could be a PH thing...

PSG has way too much N for late flower (12-11-2).

blowincherrypie · Aug 12, 2018

ya I almost ordered the veg+bloom and then when I emailed them they recommended the shine and life so I was looking at $100 just to try them out for a round.. Shit I thought the reason to switch to "powder" was to save some $ lol.. They want you to drop $530 to get the "bulk" discount on the base :roll:

That pushed me to find megacrop..

Lurpin · Aug 12, 2018

blowincherrypie said:
ya I almost ordered the veg+bloom and then when I emailed them they recommended the shine and life so I was looking at $100 just to try them out for a round.. Shit I thought the reason to switch to "powder" was to save some $ lol.. They want you to drop $530 to get the "bulk" discount on the base That pushed me to find megacrop..

How do you like the megacrop powder? I'm trying to switch to powder as well.

quiescent · Aug 12, 2018

Chunky Stool said:
Gotta go easy on the alfalfa. It's all about the ratios and whether or not you use the solids in the bottom of the bucket.
I had not heard that about kelp. Why would it delay finish?
I've heard that too much calcium can delay finish, but it could be a PH thing...

PSG has way too much N for late flower (12-11-2).

You're reading the side of a box not speaking from experience. That is a very slow release nutrient source. As I said a 48 hour soak doesn't break them down so you're not getting everything that's on the box available to your plant to use within the rest of the life of the plants. Heck, I'd bet it's still not totally available through the completion of the next cycle. It's pellitized for a reason.

http://npk-industries.com/plant_nutrition_kelp.html

The plant growth hormones continue the new growth, and like the psg it isn't all used by the plant in that instant. You don't want to apply kelp in week 6 or 7 when they should be fattening up, not trying to stack more new calyx. Making a tea with sulpomag, aka langbeinite is a better, more time appropriate solution to late flower k. More sulphur is more better towards the end.

socaljoe · Aug 12, 2018

Lurpin said:
How do you like the megacrop powder? I'm trying to switch to powder as well.

I've been loving Mega Crop for my outdoor coco grow. You can get a free sample on their website, you should give it a go.

40AmpstoFreedom · Aug 12, 2018

quiescent said:
Can't suggest a real lab soil test every few cycles enough if you're going to continue down this road. Definitely get one done after a fresh mix has sat for 4-8 weeks, well worth the cost. https://algreatlakes.com/pages/soil-analysis you want s2 and s3 done. Tell em you're growing tomatoes. Or find someone local to you. Plenty of resources out there as to what good soil analysis for mj looks like and usually you get to see someone post the end results.

https://www.amazon.com/Soil-Savvy-Understand-Fertilizer-Recommendation/dp/B01GIMOG8A/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1534109857&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=soil+test&psc=1

It's really that easy now =) I like yours too. People should really do this.

quiescent said:
The thing that most "water only" mixes need more of is calcium, I think that's what is giving you grief right now. Can't tell 100% because of lighting. If you're having an issue in one of these mixes calcium is almost always the issue. Sure it's usually fixed by a tea but the more direct route is adding that calcium back to the equation to open everything else back up for the plant to get back on track.

Yup I still find my self with a bottle of cal mag around...

quiescent said:
I'd say the hormones and high availability of n in the alfalfa would make for more spindly, leafy buds. Alfalfa should stop being used around week 3. Same issue with kelp, don't want to use that too late either as it delays finishing after week 6ish on 9-10 week strains.

A lot of people do not realize how 'hot' alfalfa is. It is immediately available for uptake this is good advice.

ruby fruit · Aug 12, 2018

@quiescent I think.it was you and one or two others that have me advice on the seedlings..never had a problem when I got the T5 for seedlings first up
But after advice to buy new bulbs AND have sufficient airflow I have done both and within 48 Hrs they have started turning a darker green and look a lot healthier already.
Cheers for your help

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