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conor c

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crownroyal said:
Has anyone popped their genetics and if so how were they ?
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Some are ok some suck there genetics isnt there issue as much as there morals thats why everyone gives em a hard time some of there strains are ok its the fact they leave there seeds wherever they go collecting that puts me off tbh
 
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aBowlOfWhat?

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I popped a Franco’s lemon cheese. Smelled very faintly like cheese cake. Didn’t have flavor. Didn’t really enjoy the smoke either.
 
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TheWholeTruth

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toomp said:
The super lemon haze was amazing
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It seems to have changed to what it was originally. Seems like its amnesia lemon or something else now, defo not the same as it used to be.

Some of ghs strains are good, but you can never be sure they are exactly the same as other times and also some of their strains arnt what they are labelled to be. Eg nevils haze isnt nevils haze, ssh isnt ssh . Just have to look out for reviews of current batches of the strain your after and see how good it is, probably better not to concentrate on the names so much.
 
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crownroyal

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I got Persian pie off of seedsman and it’s a 26% thc producer and a really high terpene profile it says so hopefully it’s as good as it says
 
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toomp

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TheWholeTruth said:
It seems to have changed to what it was originally. Seems like its amnesia lemon or something else now, defo not the same as it used to be.

Some of ghs strains are good, but you can never be sure they are exactly the same as other times and also some of their strains arnt what they are labelled to be. Eg nevils haze isnt nevils haze, ssh isnt ssh . Just have to look out for reviews of current batches of the strain your after and see how good it is, probably better not to concentrate on the names so much.
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From what I seen throughout the years of side by sides is that breeders select diffrent phenos.
Like I said to Sunni on another forum many years ago on another forum a guy did a side by side of serious and thseeds bubble gum they came out different because both have a different selection. The mr nice vs gh ssh have the same result.
As far as mislabeling I dont see the point he made lemon haze he can just make lemon amnesia
 
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TheWholeTruth

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toomp said:
From what I seen throughout the years of side by sides is that breeders select diffrent phenos.
Like I said to Sunni on another forum many years ago on another forum a guy did a side by side of serious and thseeds bubble gum they came out different because both have a different selection. The mr nice vs gh ssh have the same result.
As far as mislabeling I dont see the point he made lemon haze he can just make lemon amnesia
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Bit different than different phenotypes. The slh is definitely not got the exact same genetics as before. It wasn't a s1 originally but technically a r1 with one parent reversed onto the other. Definitely one parent has changed, most likely their old school ssh clone they hunted down wich they clearly dont have any more. As for nevils haze I know since they started doing all fems they have sold s1 of old g13haze C and g13haze C x their thai in those packs. Thats not difrent phenos thats complety different strains to what the original strain with that name label was. I know they have done this with other strains too. The current alskan ice is not the exact same thing as before, its totaly different. The current Hawaiian snow has had something added to it as its complety different to before. If your saying phenotype well the plants dont come out uniform so even if they used a sister pheno of the original release then sooner or later some similar phenotypes to before should pop up as the genetics are technically supposed to be the same. Not the case though.
As for comparison eg like the ssh, people should be doing direct comparison with the 1998 ssh as those were the last original ones nevil himself made (the same ghs first sold)so we know those are proper ssh. No ones since have been the same.
 
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conor c

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Well ive had good luck with there white widow exo s1s the doctor Himalayan gold and a few others mind you id be suprised if there widow is anything like it used to be i might need to grab a pack just to see and the worst one they do is kalashnikova that and barneys tangerine dream are tied for worst strain ever in my experience i agree the slh haze has changed the franco cut is the pheno we all knew and loved used to be in every pack last batches i tried were not the same
 
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conor c

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toomp said:
From what I seen throughout the years of side by sides is that breeders select diffrent phenos.
Like I said to Sunni on another forum many years ago on another forum a guy did a side by side of serious and thseeds bubble gum they came out different because both have a different selection. The mr nice vs gh ssh have the same result.
As far as mislabeling I dont see the point he made lemon haze he can just make lemon amnesia
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Serious selected it to be more sativa style be why and th seeds old one was more towards the indica original and thing is with ghs u cant be sure they would lie no problem
 
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Psyphish

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I used to like their Super Lemon Haze, had a purple pheno that smelled like lemon candy. I ordered some of their strains on Black Friday, just to see what their current gear is like, if it's all bunk I won't bother with them again.
 
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conor c

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Psyphish said:
I used to like their Super Lemon Haze, had a purple pheno that smelled like lemon candy. I ordered some of their strains on Black Friday, just to see what their current gear is like, if it's all bunk I won't bother with them again.
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The best pheno was a mix of lemonade candy mixed with a tad of hazy ness pretty fast hitter good smoke pretty stinky too last time i tried super lemon haze it tasted more like the lemon herby type of thing more akin to the old school lemon haze vs the super so i think its changed a bit when it was first out none were like that ime
 
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toomp

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conor c said:
Serious selected it to be more sativa style be why and th seeds old one was more towards the indica original and thing is with ghs u cant be sure they would lie no problem
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That pretty much was the result.
Serious yielded less THseeds had a heavier yield
Both looked great, He liked serious seeds Bubblegum better
 
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TheWholeTruth

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conor c said:
Well ive had good luck with there white widow exo s1s the doctor Himalayan gold and a few others mind you id be suprised if there widow is anything like it used to be i might need to grab a pack just to see and the worst one they do is kalashnikova that and barneys tangerine dream are tied for worst strain ever in my experience i agree the slh haze has changed the franco cut is the pheno we all knew and loved used to be in every pack last batches i tried were not the same
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@conor c, what was your ghs exodus cheese like ? I found a proper good one. I give it a guy who had the original clone he couldn't tell it apart in smoke. When I first had it it wasnt as strong in scentand potency and grew different, but it went through some problems and changed. Went all side ways growing and had lots of three bladed leaves by the time I got it back on track and it started reaking bad and got strong. I got raided and lost all mine cuts, but I had it backed up somewere as a mother but the idiot who was looking after some cuts killed it and decided to tell me two months later when it was a completely dead dried out brown gold straw thing sitting in the pot. The guy killed my exodus cheese x male regular big buddha cheese cut too which took me 3 years to search for, I liked it better as it had a more sativa and brighter side to the high for some reason then the original clone.
So good things can be found in ghs seed stock, but just risks of batches being different.
 
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toomp

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TheWholeTruth said:
Bit different than different phenotypes. The slh is definitely not got the exact same genetics as before. It wasn't a s1 originally but technically a r1 with one parent reversed onto the other. Definitely one parent has changed, most likely their old school ssh clone they hunted down wich they clearly dont have any more. As for nevils haze I know since they started doing all fems they have sold s1 of old g13haze C and g13haze C x their thai in those packs. Thats not difrent phenos thats complety different strains to what the original strain with that name label was. I know they have done this with other strains too. The current alskan ice is not the exact same thing as before, its totaly different. The current Hawaiian snow has had something added to it as its complety different to before. If your saying phenotype well the plants dont come out uniform so even if they used a sister pheno of the original release then sooner or later some similar phenotypes to before should pop up as the genetics are technically supposed to be the same. Not the case though.
As for comparison eg like the ssh, people should be doing direct comparison with the 1998 ssh as those were the last original ones nevil himself made (the same ghs first sold)so we know those are proper ssh. No ones since have been the same.
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Its been a very long time since I grew slh but How difficult do you believe it to be to find a great ssh clone? One could skip a seed run and hunt through the shear number of ssh clones available and find something better. In the end sometimes I believe our tolerance is whats not the same.
 
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GreenestBasterd

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The arjans(Neville’s) haze 1 or 2 was decent, then went permanently out of stock, reinforcing the idea that they lost the original parents.
 
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conor c

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TheWholeTruth said:
@conor c, what was your ghs exodus cheese like ? I found a proper good one. I give it a guy who had the original clone he couldn't tell it apart in smoke. When I first had it it wasnt as strong in scentand potency and grew different, but it went through some problems and changed. Went all side ways growing and had lots of three bladed leaves by the time I got it back on track and it started reaking bad and got strong. I got raided and lost all mine cuts, but I had it backed up somewere as a mother but the idiot who was looking after some cuts killed it and decided to tell me two months later when it was a completely dead dried out brown gold straw thing sitting in the pot. The guy killed my exodus cheese x male regular big buddha cheese cut too which took me 3 years to search for, I liked it better as it had a more sativa and brighter side to the high for some reason then the original clone.
So good things can be found in ghs seed stock, but just risks of batches being different.
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It varies some closer than others theres some intresting phenos in there some not so cheesey others more so theres some funky hard to describe ones in there too and greenhouses isnt actually from the exodus cut btw even tho they call it that it was actually given to them by brightside himself so its the brightside cut in reality they used that cut and it being pre exodus collective is just ironic brightside goes on uk420 as cheesefarmer for those who didnt know i remember him telling someone on there or maybe icmag even years ago
 
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conor c

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toomp said:
Its been a very long time since I grew slh but How difficult do you believe it to be to find a great ssh clone? One could skip a seed run and hunt through the shear number of ssh clones available and find something better. In the end sometimes I believe our tolerance is whats not the same.
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The franco cut still exists so that clones out there yeah be a better bet if u can get it
 
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