Gravity Flower Hardener

Plant growth regulator

Bagelthief said:

sweet. you have good info man. what does PGR stand for? i think im definitely going to pick up the purple max, but ill wait to see whats up with the bushmaster. i have a grow where exactly half of my crop is grown strait organic (BMO), and the other half is getting a mixture of some chem nutes(FF) and some organic nutes. if i did get the bushM i would need to use it on all the plants, so it definitly needs to be Organic.

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I hear ya---I love the 100% organic grows but I also love to test everything out---I'm trying to get on with a farm right now in Cali---They are doing some exciting new things with vertical wall hydroponics, and they are trying to bridge 100% organics with updated hydro technic---pretty cool stuff.

It really is amazing, the new research and products within the last ten years has dramatically changed. There are all kinds of cannabis specific nutes available, compared to the old school fertilizers that were available.

I can't wait for lighting technology to catch up to the fertilizer industry. Obviously there is research being done, but nothing better than a dated HPS system has come out yet. The hype when LEDs came out was ridiculous, especially for such a crappy product. When the sun's spectrum and power can be replicated, I'm going to be estatic

good advise. I have been learning by experience slowly that keeping it simple is better and than.using a myrid of nutes. It really does not make that much difference. I did use the Bush Master and also got burned. I will never use it again. I did use Gravity at it's recommended doseand it seem to really fatten up the buds. Thanks to everyone who has been contributing to this thread. It has been very interesting. Aloha, Meloyelo

I think with the bushmaster you really need to start very low like 1ml/gal with zero nutes the day before the 12/12 switch and a tip that they suggest and seems to work is water with the 1ml/gal-no nutes then 6 hours later flush with plain water at the rate of 2 times the size of your container---then let the medium dry up just till your plants just start to dry-sag then hit them with 1/4 nutes and work your way up over the next couple of weeks. If you have zero signs of burn then increase the amount by 1/2ml on your next cycle. ****You will only need to add bushmaster once at the flip****.

I think with the bushmaster you really need to start very low like 1ml/gal with zero nutes the day before the 12/12 switch and a tip that they suggest and seems to work is water with the 1ml/gal-no nutes then 6 hours later flush with plain water at the rate of 2 times the size of your container

? Are you saying that with a 5 gallon pot, you should flush with 10 gallons?

Yes that is correct sir.

has anyone heard if bushmaster is organic or not?

Bagelthief said:

has anyone heard if bushmaster is organic or not?

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i herd its not bro, just a grip of metals...? i dont really know tho ima newbi.

Bagelthief said:

has anyone heard if bushmaster is organic or not?

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No its not organic but it is a supplement kind of like steriods for humans. It WILL burn the shit out of your plants but if you know how to use it, it will produce. I have tried it, along with purple max and gravity. I had to grow in a small box and Bushmasters shorten my plants and fatten the buds. The first time I tried it I burned ALL my girls..Learned a good one there.. Next time I buned em again but not as bad... Now I got it down..
The shit works good but you gatta pratice... Thats the best I can say how to use the Humlbolt products.

? Are you saying that with a 5 gallon pot, you should flush with 10 gallons?
Yes that is correct sir.

Wow dr, I don't think I can do that....That would be alot of water for a guy like me. Would you suggest any other method besides the extreme use of water? I know this question sounds a bit off, but there is no way I am going to beable to flush every plant with 10 gallons of water.

so far from what ive read, 1ml/per gallon is what you should water with. i dont think you need to flush if you use only that much, but im not talking from experience, just from what ive heard, so im not 100% positive.

daddychrisg said:

? Are you saying that with a 5 gallon pot, you should flush with 10 gallons?
Yes that is correct sir.

Wow dr, I don't think I can do that....That would be alot of water for a guy like me. Would you suggest any other method besides the extreme use of water? I know this question sounds a bit off, but there is no way I am going to beable to flush every plant with 10 gallons of water.

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I would start @ 1/2ml/gal on a few plants without the flush and see how they respond--You may not even have a problem with the 1ml/gal w/out flush but I don't want to suggest to someone something that could hurt there grows. Best of luck to you----most growers that I know and talk to use the purple max and gravity like religion but gave up on the bush master---I used it at the amounts I stated earlier with flush and had zero problems and it did shorten the height and flowering nodes on my Island Sweet Skunk---If you get the three products down and working for you correctly you can do some killer lollipop buds with Sat's that turn out covered in resin and dense as hell.-------side note----------I used the purple-max and gravity on a strain we call Godzilla----I kid you not--the bud looked like a Christmas tree that had just been white flocked!!!

how can you say that its not organic when the npk is 0-.01-0 anything under a 5 is strictly organic. no questions asked.

npk has nothing to do with being organic or not. where the hell did you hear that^?

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I started this thread and used the gravity after reading replys. It worked good. I did reduce the basic nutrients by 2/3. It worked. If I were you, I would reduce by 2/3rds not 1/3. It might even be best to use no other nutes when hardening the buds.