Grape Ice 2x4 ebb and flow 600 watt 1st hydroponic grow

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No prob on the vibes my man, those are the only kind I try ta give!:-P If I were you Id go grab some hygrozyme and start runnin that alge or not foreal! Its really good shit, keeps your plants/roots nice and healthy and really helps w/nutrient uptake. Helps ta break down the nutes into more useable form. Supposedly SensiZyme from Advanced is even better and I think its actually cheaper if you can believe that!
kali love said:
ok Question so the lower bud sites are startig to form and i was wondering if now was the time to start removeing the lower 1/3 of branches to help in flowing not to sure some input would be good on this
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Yea you wanna go ahead and start pruning, if you wait much longer youll stress the girls out and affect your yield. Taking off the bottom 3rd is usually good cuz they dont get enough light and just end up taking away weight away from the tops.
How many plants are you growin per sq ft? If your doin a bunch of small plants like me, like 2-4 per sq ft, you should go ahead and prune any side branches. That way youll end up with nothing but colas. But if your plants have a little more room ta branch out then you can leave some nice side branches. You jus wanna use your best judgement when pruning, the strongest looking branches will give you the best buds. But dont leave too many side branches or theyll be too crowded, you kinda gotta piece em together like a puzzle if that makes sense! Ive also been doing some experimenting to see if removing the smaller buds that grow near the stem on the inside of the plant will end up increasing the size of the top buds on the stem.
 
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cool thanks for the responses i was ot sure what to really do since i am not really doing a sea of green at this time and normally i dont wait so long to trim a lil either thats why i wasnt sure if i shoul trim but when the lights go on this morning im going to star to remove the lower third of the plants all post some pics later of the end results
 
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SO Kali whats up with that good update my man??? I hope all is goin well and the trimmin went good for ya, no alge showin up at all I assume? Thats kinda strange about your boys source not wantin ta tell him the genetic background of the strains he gives him... really wierd man! I was talkin to a buddy of mine that hooks me up with clones and we couldnt think of any good reason why someone wouldnt wanna tell you what strain your gettin. Well we couldnt think of any positive reason to keep the genetics a secret! I guess it could be a really rare cut and he thinks that if people know how valuble what they have is theyll be a lot more likely to sell it to a dispensery or commercial operation. But on the other hand it could be shotty genetics or just an unknown strain... who knows man secrecy always makes me wonder ya know! But I guess youll be findin out in a few months huh! Im eager ta see how they turn out, you thinkin about doin a SOG next time around since your on a short time limit or you gonna veg em out for a little while again???
 
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Ok so today is the 14th day of flowering as per yester day i did trim the plants i think i kind of over did it but we shall see you live and you learn im glad to trim some it helped allow more airmovement as well as helped to lower the humidity i also order a dehumidifer today to help with my humidity especially in flower i noticed as well that the last few days the humidity has been really high alot due to he excessive rain we have seen in the area i hope i get the dehumidifer soon cause its supposed to rain on thursday and friday and i would like to not get powdery mildew that pleagued my last crop but neways grabed some hydrozyeme this saturday and have some h202 on the way ( bummer the hydro they were out but should have some by wed at the latest ) as well as stated prior per my deal with the hydro shop the hydrozyme did not cost me any currancy (only time and gas) which is nice i love the shop i go to every one is cool and back up every word that comes out there mouth which is nice for a change
ok so here are the pics after the trim i hope i am doing this right gypse please keep it coming with the input you help so much i am looking to improve and learn from my mistakes and as well you all be honest in your response its not necessary to keep things sugar coated
 

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SO Kali whats up with that good update my man??? I hope all is goin well and the trimmin went good for ya, no alge showin up at all I assume? Thats kinda strange about your boys source not wantin ta tell him the genetic background of the strains he gives him... really wierd man! I was talkin to a buddy of mine that hooks me up with clones and we couldnt think of any good reason why someone wouldnt wanna tell you what strain your gettin. Well we couldnt think of any positive reason to keep the genetics a secret! I guess it could be a really rare cut and he thinks that if people know how valuble what they have is theyll be a lot more likely to sell it to a dispensery or commercial operation. But on the other hand it could be shotty genetics or just an unknown strain... who knows man secrecy always makes me wonder ya know! But I guess youll be findin out in a few months huh! Im eager ta see how they turn out, you thinkin about doin a SOG next time around since your on a short time limit or you gonna veg em out for a little while again???
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hyea chief how be you well thinks are going ok i was a lil bummed the at the end of the week its the end of the month and its kind of crunch time are work end of the month and gotta get you nums straight so i can make incentive it was not really looking good prior but we shall see no algae is showing up but i got some hydrzyme with some h202 on the way too keep it all in check if there is anyl. idk i knew one other guy who was like that he grows hands down the best weed i have ever smoked i mean i just snap like .1 tops and it gets me high like its the first time i smoked the strain is called crondo hypno or something but it smells exactly like hypnotic ( prbly not spelled right ) and the nugs look liked they are rolled in hash or some thing the only kicker its 80 and 8th but the guy says just cuase the way the plant is its a very low yeilder but the high is unreal and i have never seen any other nug like it ever couple months i get an 8th or two of it im going on but neways back to the mother so you should all know this caregiver who assist me does not smoke at all himself ( so its all profit for him {kinda high thinking of the good ole days more stories} and kinda stupid cause her rolls with kilos in the back of his care and will be glad to show it to you in the p lot but neways ) so he is alway giving me samples of stuff he is deciding on picking up and he supposedly only deals with growers majority being in the emerald triangle but one guy give him these two seeds and says this is some stuff i have been working with its personal stuff no one else has out here and hes like i want you to have them you bring me lots of busniess and you a cool guy kinda of thing but he tells him no genetics and wont i have asked him to ask but all he says is 50/50 grow em out and see what you get (50/50 refers to the sex of te plant as they are not femenized seeds and have a chance to be male or female) but they seem very dom indica healty eater ( esp comared to the grape ice as they have had a stronger dose of nutes and have not expericnce any nuter burn at this time) it also has a very fruity smelly to it so we shall see what happpens if its good i could have somethin nice if not it o tay got a bagseed i found in this chemdawg i have been smokin this last month i dont think that person is t worried about the clinics getting some of this right now her already produce some very good trainwreck bluedream and a few oththers as well there are several clinic have lots ofnice cuts ( i know several clone only clinics with good genetics now) but as for my next grow i am not to sure i know prior i mentioned doing a dwc but cannot due to time constransts i am going to be moving out ofthis location for many reasons but i am looking at a condo maybe a cheap house or atleast a two bedroom apt but i would like to have atleast 2 2x4 tents one with the ebb and flow and the other i would like to have a perpetual grow going maybe like a dwc i was thinking 8-10 dwc 5 or 3 gal bucets and plan on veging the plants for 3 to 4 weeks prior under the t5s i got from homedepot ok im finally outta breath lol
 
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"so no comments or anything come on riu"

What up son, I feeeeel ya everything seem kinda slow on rollitup lately! My thread was poppin for a few days but for the last week or so aint nobody popped in and said nothin... The girls lookin damn good tho my man, I can not fuckin wait ta get my grow/journal started! I got em in veg now so but I dont even consider it a grow until I put em in flower ya know! I always got somethin in veg, mothers/clones whatever. But I went out and got almost all the rest off my shoppin done today, got most of the rest of the AN Connoiseur line up, my coco mat, and some tubing so we'll be switchin it up ta 12/12 soon yall! Still gotta pick up my Phirana, Voodoo Juice, and Bud Factor X which I am not lookin forward too man... damn near 100 bucks a bottle! This Advanced shit better blow my Technaflora/Fox Farm recipe out of the water for as much more as it costs!
But as far as your trimmin goes I think they look jus about perfect man, you def didnt over do it. You might wanna get rid of a couple more of the really low bottom branches, look at it like if the top of a branch doesnt at least come up to the halfway point on the plant get rid of it. Since your not usin a 1000 watter the canopy penetration isnt deep enough ta get to bud sites that are further than halfway down plants that size. Anyting below that point is gonna be real popcorny and take away size from the top buds. They say to remove the bottom third but you got some good size branches that are pretty tall so Id leave those but the smaller branches that dont go past the halfway pont can go. I think I saw a couple in pic 2 that can go but its up ta you dog, jus my 2 cents!
If youre plannin on gettin a 2 bedroom Id go with rentin a house and blowin up a whole bedroom, fuck a couple tents! Shit man if I was in Cali my crib would look like a damn jungle. If I were you Id be takin my 2 dual 600s and rockin out an 8x8, thats the grow journal I wanna see buddy!
 
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chief greenleaf said:
"so no comments or anything come on riu"

What up son, I feeeeel ya everything seem kinda slow on rollitup lately! My thread was poppin for a few days but for the last week or so aint nobody popped in and said nothin... The girls lookin damn good tho my man, I can not fuckin wait ta get my grow/journal started! I got em in veg now so but I dont even consider it a grow until I put em in flower ya know! I always got somethin in veg, mothers/clones whatever. But I went out and got almost all the rest off my shoppin done today, got most of the rest of the AN Connoiseur line up, my coco mat, and some tubing so we'll be switchin it up ta 12/12 soon yall! Still gotta pick up my Phirana, Voodoo Juice, and Bud Factor X which I am not lookin forward too man... damn near 100 bucks a bottle! This Advanced shit better blow my Technaflora/Fox Farm recipe out of the water for as much more as it costs!
But as far as your trimmin goes I think they look jus about perfect man, you def didnt over do it. You might wanna get rid of a couple more of the really low bottom branches, look at it like if the top of a branch doesnt at least come up to the halfway point on the plant get rid of it. Since your not usin a 1000 watter the canopy penetration isnt deep enough ta get to bud sites that are further than halfway down plants that size. Anyting below that point is gonna be real popcorny and take away size from the top buds. They say to remove the bottom third but you got some good size branches that are pretty tall so Id leave those but the smaller branches that dont go past the halfway pont can go. I think I saw a couple in pic 2 that can go but its up ta you dog, jus my 2 cents!
If youre plannin on gettin a 2 bedroom Id go with rentin a house and blowin up a whole bedroom, fuck a couple tents! Shit man if I was in Cali my crib would look like a damn jungle. If I were you Id be takin my 2 dual 600s and rockin out an 8x8, thats the grow journal I wanna see buddy!
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yea i know it seemed like a few months ago there usedto be lots of people on here but idk ok thanks cheif i wasnt sure if i did to much or what but yea i had i few i left and though they were kinda of low i just went back and n cleaend them up a lil more yea i feel u it seems like when nothing is in flower like ur really growing much so what strains r u going with r u going to start seed or already have some clones, thats cool u going to run with advance the seem to have alot of stuff on the market i have not really looked into them too much i was looking at for while the conissuer part a and b but when i was talking to a rep at a hydro store a few weeks back when i was picking up my cloning stuff and was asking abouyt an they guy couldnt answer my questions about the conissure a n b but he keep bring up the bud factor and how it suppo0sed to be good if he had more info beyaond that i probly wouldve bought some too that day but in the end i could not justify the cost at that time but ne ways what makes up the conissuer line of an nutes i just email gen hydro they gona send me some samples n stuff to checkk out should lst through my next grow but yeas i was thinking about what u said to be hones id love to go big and be harvesting a few punds a month i already sell to the clinics it would just make that much more profit for me but i am kind of holding off just yet working towards getting legal and all my paperwork finished so i can be a caregiver once i do that ill look twoards a bigger op i also want to get hydro dialed iin before i invest to go big i would like to do 4x8 trays but i have seen how bi they are and could not imagine driving down the friway with a few of those in the bed of my truck lol idk though a few months until i move so lots of time to think on it and improve but we shall see
 
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What up Kali the Connoisseur line consists of mother earth tea, b-52, bud candy, sensizyme, piranha, tarantula, voodoo juice, bud blood, big bud, overdrive, and final phase and of course the conny a and b. I actually found a guy on craigs list that aint growin any more for some reason and sold me a bunch of full bottles of AN shit for 100 bucks! It was easily 3-400 bucks worth of nutes so I had ta jump on it. I usually use the technaflora recipe w/ fox farms open sesame, beastie bloomz, and cha ching in place of the awesome blossom. Thats one of the best formulas Ive ever used and its really inexpensive compared to all the high priced shit out there these days! But since dude was sellin the AN stuff for so cheap I figured Id give it a try but I didnt realize that the few more things that I needed to complete the line up was the most expensive shit they sell! Im gonna have ta drop about 300 on the piranha, voodoo juice tarantula and bud factor x! I get damn good results with my technaflora line so its gonna have ta give me some amazing yeild/quality ta be worth all this extra cash, but we will see. But Ive heard some damn good things about the Bud Factor X too man so Im def gonna drop the 90 bucks for it but Im gonna do some substituting on a few other things. Im gonna run Open Sesame instead of the Bud Blood, Thrive Alive for B-52, and Im thinkin about running Humbolt Nutrients Beneficial Bacteria line instead AN's, itll save me $150+!
But Ill be runnin my special Chocolope pheno, I been workin on a name for her, maybe Shorty Lope... I already got my 32 clones veggin now, Im just hand watering at the moment since my ebb & flow isnt all the way set up yet. You should see the growth on the girls tho man, Ive never seen anything like it! I topped about half of em the day b4 yesterday just to even up the canopy and theyve already packed on between 2-3 inches and 3-5 nodes in less than 2 days! Its wild, Im gonna have ta trim the hell out of em too, the ones I topped have already started ta branch like crazy. Some of em have like 4-6 side good sized side branches already and I just topped em Tues night! Im runnin 32 in a 2x4 so i def aint gonna have much room for side branching ya know! Ill try ta get a few pics uploaded for ya to see.
 
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chief greenleaf said:
What up Kali the Connoisseur line consists of mother earth tea, b-52, bud candy, sensizyme, piranha, tarantula, voodoo juice, bud blood, big bud, overdrive, and final phase and of course the conny a and b. I actually found a guy on craigs list that aint growin any more for some reason and sold me a bunch of full bottles of AN shit for 100 bucks! It was easily 3-400 bucks worth of nutes so I had ta jump on it. I usually use the technaflora recipe w/ fox farms open sesame, beastie bloomz, and cha ching in place of the awesome blossom. Thats one of the best formulas Ive ever used and its really inexpensive compared to all the high priced shit out there these days! But since dude was sellin the AN stuff for so cheap I figured Id give it a try but I didnt realize that the few more things that I needed to complete the line up was the most expensive shit they sell! Im gonna have ta drop about 300 on the piranha, voodoo juice tarantula and bud factor x! I get damn good results with my technaflora line so its gonna have ta give me some amazing yeild/quality ta be worth all this extra cash, but we will see. But Ive heard some damn good things about the Bud Factor X too man so Im def gonna drop the 90 bucks for it but Im gonna do some substituting on a few other things. Im gonna run Open Sesame instead of the Bud Blood, Thrive Alive for B-52, and Im thinkin about running Humbolt Nutrients Beneficial Bacteria line instead AN's, itll save me $150+!
But Ill be runnin my special Chocolope pheno, I been workin on a name for her, maybe Shorty Lope... I already got my 32 clones veggin now, Im just hand watering at the moment since my ebb & flow isnt all the way set up yet. You should see the growth on the girls tho man, Ive never seen anything like it! I topped about half of em the day b4 yesterday just to even up the canopy and theyve already packed on between 2-3 inches and 3-5 nodes in less than 2 days! Its wild, Im gonna have ta trim the hell out of em too, the ones I topped have already started ta branch like crazy. Some of em have like 4-6 side good sized side branches already and I just topped em Tues night! Im runnin 32 in a 2x4 so i def aint gonna have much room for side branching ya know! Ill try ta get a few pics uploaded for ya to see.
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yea the conny line def sounds good lost of good prducts in there but i do agree with you they better produce some very good results to be worth all that money i agree with you on subm in diff nutes to help save on cost but wow 32 in a 2x4 thats gonna be a nice yeild once ur finished esp with that choc ur gonna have some grade aaa smoke on ur hands id love to get that cut from you one day either that im gonna have to grow out alotta choc seeds in the future to find that pheno you are more then welocme to post some pics id love to see how your doing and how a 2x4 looks with 32 plants im too am exicted for your jornal
 
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GypsyBush said:
what's a smart pot?:o:lol:
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Ok after i trimmed the plants i flushed them for one day with phd water the i changed the res i am curently usng the grow big n big bloom as well as the cha ching i did this on 020310 since then the plants are doing well the trichromes are starting to come out another week of this nute mix n i will then use some purple maxx n gravity no nutesfor about 3 or 4 days then continue with the fox farm schedule i should also be getting my dehumidifier soon i didnt place my order the first time ( it seems like that want u to click confirm to make the actual purchase lol ) but ne ways that was ordered yesterday but its raining today i hope it gets here soon
 
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kali love said:
No I am sorry gypse but this would be my first hydro grow ever but maybe redi jedi has
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Right on....:-o

I was just wondering, it seems like a good idea, but I can see a few issues...

Like price and algae to start...

But like I said i was just curious...:razz:

And BEST OF LUCK on your E/F grow...:clap::clap: holler if I can help...:weed:
 
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