Grand Rapids michigan attorney William Forcyth no friend of mine!

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Grand Rapids city attorney William Forcyth is suing the city for following the will of the voters. G.R. Voted and passed decriminalizing marijuana in any amount. Will is the city prosecutor and he's saying that because it doesn't match the law of the state or the Feds it can't be allowed to pass. A judge has agreed and has put the law on hold until at least January. It was supposed to take effect on Thursday. The home of the chained and the land of the slave
 
canndo

canndo

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It all depends upon your constitution then. There were several cities in California that mounted such a thing - our - "liberal" supreme court found each one of them to be flawed arguments. According to California law, an alignment with Federal law is not a requirement unless it violates civil rights protected by the U.S. constitution. Just bide your time, you will likely have your legal marijuana.



I just looked into this - it is decrim and it is a local and not a state issue - so.... never mind.
 
ProfessorPotSnob

ProfessorPotSnob

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I wonder if the Devos , Amway and other Elites put his ass up to this , naa he has a personal vendetta and is out to keep the streets of GR safer for all hahhahaha
 
canndo

canndo

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I read a quick rundown of his complaints and they are not that far fetched. There is no weight limit and no punishment for vending to minors - he will be in lots of hot water with the feds if he goes ahead and implements this law - and according to the feds he could be personaly liable.
 
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It's not his place to implement this, and the people were very clear that there would be no weight limits introduced, when the bill was written. Grand Rapids is polluted with crack; Marijuana, not so much. Last year there was a killer who drove through our streets on a crack fueled high speed chase, shooting and killing 7 people along the way. That's the kind of criminal, the police need to be trying to stop, and even then, people with "real" drug problems, need help, not jail.

G.R. is a college town, and the main reason the citizens want decriminalization, is because of kids getting their records marred for doing things that all kids do, during college. Sales of marijuana are still prohibited, so I don't see why a special exception should be made for children, I'm close to thirty, I can't remember the last time I met someone under 21, I'm sick of everyone using the safety of kids, as a shield, to work against the will of the people. If anything marijuana is much safer than adderal, vicoden, percocet, ritalin etc... When was the last time a pharmacist got put in jail, for pedaling dope?
 
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Also, this bill has full support from the mayor, and the city council members, the only people I've heard hating on it, are the police chief, William Forcyth, and most likely Bill Schutte.
 
canndo

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slipstar059 said:
It's not his place to implement this, and the people were very clear that there would be no weight limits introduced, when the bill was written. Grand Rapids is polluted with crack; Marijuana, not so much. Last year there was a killer who drove through our streets on a crack fueled high speed chase, shooting and killing 7 people along the way. That's the kind of criminal, the police need to be trying to stop, and even then, people with "real" drug problems, need help, not jail.

G.R. is a college town, and the main reason the citizens want decriminalization, is because of kids getting their records marred for doing things that all kids do, during college. Sales of marijuana are still prohibited, so I don't see why a special exception should be made for children, I'm close to thirty, I can't remember the last time I met someone under 21, I'm sick of everyone using the safety of kids, as a shield, to work against the will of the people. If anything marijuana is much safer than adderal, vicoden, percocet, ritalin etc... When was the last time a pharmacist got put in jail, for pedaling dope?
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It is his place to support it and this is not about the actual safety of children but about the appearance of such. Just because you don't fraternize with children doesn't mean that someone doesn't think it may be profitable to do so. Weight as well is a question of appearance. These things should have been thought of when the law was first proposed. There is no end of trouble in California becuase of their badly written and nebulous laws over medical marijuana.

Mind you I am not saying that the DA is right and I am not saying that decrim is a bad idea, I am just pointing out reasons this guy might be a little hesitant to comply. California's elected officials are being threatend by the DEA for doing what, in their state, is their sworn duty - to uphold the laws of their STATE. This guy may be seeing this and worrying about his situation.

But then you get to the comparative safety of different drugs - a bad place to go. Safety is a relative thing when combined with the good it does. Morhine may not be as safe as pot but it is a pretty effective and useful drug, it could easily be argued that it is far more useful than pot.
 
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I've never heard (nor read) someone that grows cannabis, put up such a well articulated argument for why he would like to be prosecuted, and put in jail. Bottom line is this, GRPD Police Chief said he wasn't going to let the new law stop him from directing his officers to arrest cannabis users, he said the only way it would stop is if the county prosecutor gave him the O.K. 3 days before the law would be enacted, we get a lawsuit. If those people are to afraid to stand up for the rights of the voting public, or if they have personal issues with cannabis, they shouldn't be in public office. The weight limits were taken into consideration, it could possibly be that some people were thinking of having our very own Oaksterdam (I can't see anything wrong with that), right here in G.R. but as I said before, selling is still illegal. The cities police department has been looked into by the FBI, for racial profiling, and what's happening to black urban youth, is the same thing that Nixon, was doing to the protesters, and hippies.

Your way of thinking is the opposite of the lifestyle your living, maybe you should take a look at the line in the sand, and decide what side of it you want to be on.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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slipstar059 said:
I've never heard (nor read) someone that grows cannabis, put up such a well articulated argument for why he would like to be prosecuted, and put in jail. Bottom line is this, GRPD Police Chief said he wasn't going to let the new law stop him from directing his officers to arrest cannabis users, he said the only way it would stop is if the county prosecutor gave him the O.K. 3 days before the law would be enacted, we get a lawsuit. If those people are to afraid to stand up for the rights of the voting public, or if they have personal issues with cannabis, they shouldn't be in public office. The weight limits were taken into consideration, it could possibly be that some people were thinking of having our very own Oaksterdam (I can't see anything wrong with that), right here in G.R. but as I said before, selling is still illegal. The cities police department has been looked into by the FBI, for racial profiling, and what's happening to black urban youth, is the same thing that Nixon, was doing to the protesters, and hippies.

Your way of thinking is the opposite of the lifestyle your living, maybe you should take a look at the line in the sand, and decide what side of it you want to be on.
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Usually those who raise loyalty tests don't have a reasoned position on which to fall back. cn
 
Canna Sylvan

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Dear Obama,
My god, my god, why have you forsaken us. We voted for your ass. Can you please stop playing golf long enough to allow us to do our roof hits the way you do? Amen.

PS, I'm still waiting for my free gas and you to pay my mortgage payments.
 
theexpress

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ProfessorPotSnob said:
Ride down Burton and Division and Wealthy St areas and tell me Cannabis is an issue in GR hahahah again
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lol i take it thats were they sell the crack rocks? so wait a min... grand rapids has a city or county ordinence has decriminalized marijuana in any amount? like even a pound or lbs?
 
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Says the farmer from Redneckistan... Let me tell you, if I ever start asking for loyalties on an internet message board, We're already dead, the zombies will be out in full force, and we'll be running from a guy who calls himself the governor, and wears an eye patch. P.S. I'll be the guy asking the black girl with dreads, and a samurai sword, out to dinner.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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slipstar059 said:
Says the farmer from Redneckistan... Let me tell you, if I ever start asking for loyalties on an internet message board, We're already dead, the zombies will be out in full force, and we'll be running from a guy who calls himself the governor, and wears an eye patch. P.S. I'll be the guy asking the black girl with dreads, and a samurai sword, out to dinner.
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Perhaps the following word does not extend far enough to capture the true profundity of my raptness:
Whatever. cn
 
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Obvious Racist is Obvious. This guy is white, therefore a racist and we all know racists are no good for nuthin!!!

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A few months ago, at the behest of Bill Schuette, (our hated, state attorney general) Forsyth swept a case under the rug, I guess most people don't know this unless they're local, but 2 republicans Chase Boldger, and Roy Schmidt, ran against each other in the same district, now the man who ran as a republican is the head of Michigans GOP, and they openly admitted to election fraud, but they also said they committed no crimes. This all happened in Kent County (Grand Rapids) Forsyth told the state police to stop investigating, and Bill Schuette refused to prosecute the case.

So in their minds election fraud, "Ehhh, no big deal", Cannabis "The devils seed" Michigan has really gone down hill.
 
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