Grand Old Party's grand old contributions to freedom

Brick Top said:

You cannot run and hide from your own words. You said; "i would say liberals freed the slaves, not republicans." That is revisionist history, that was you attempting to credit voters for doing what the GOP actually did.

You really are a pitiful pathetic human being, Uncle Buck. You are ignorant of the facts and your are willfully intellectually dishonest.

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once again you reduce what could be a believable argument into personal attacks and partisan bickering. i am tempted to edit that post.

the GOP rose to popularity in the anti-slave north. that much is correct, but if you argue that the views of that republican party was in line with modern-day conservatives, you are insane.

part of their platform included high pensions for union workers as a way to gain support of unions, high salaries for employees as a form of boosting aggregate demand and maximizing profits, high protective 'tariffs' or TAXES around every corner....

they were against ultra-rich gathering all the wealth while the rest were left to pick up the scraps... and enforced that view through tax policy....

conservative enough for ya??

Brick Top said:

You forgot to mention this stuff ... which I am sure was a totally unintentional error ...... caused by your sheer ignorance of historical facts.

HistoryTest

BLACK POLITICAL HISTORY: THE UNTOLD STORY
NOTE: All answers are "b."​

1. What Party was founded as the anti-slavery Party and fought to free blacks from slavery?
[ ] a. Democratic Party
[X] b. Republican Party

2. What was the Party of Abraham Lincoln who signed the emancipation proclamation that resulted in the Juneteenth celebrations that occur in black communities today?
[ ] a. Democratic Party
[X] b. Republican Party

3. What Party passed the Thirteenth, Fourteenth, and Fifteenth Amendments to the U. S. Constitution granting blacks freedom, citizenship, and the right to vote?
[ ] a. Democratic Party
[X] b. Republican Party

4. What Party passed the Civil Rights Acts of 1866 and 1875 granting blacks protection from the Black Codes and prohibiting racial discrimination in public accommodations, and was the Party of most blacks prior to the 1960’s, including Frederick Douglass, Harriet Tubman, Sojourner Truth, Booker T. Washington, and Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.?
[ ] a. Democratic Party
[X] b. Republican Party

5. What was the Party of the founding fathers of the NAACP?
[ ] a. Democratic Party
[X] b. Republican Party

6. What was the Party of President Dwight Eisenhower who sent U.S. troops to Arkansas to desegregate schools, established the Civil Rights Commission in 1958, and appointed Chief Justice Earl Warren to the U.S. Supreme Court which resulted in the 1954 Brown v. Board of Education decision ending school segregation?
[ ] a. Democratic Party
[X] b. Republican Party

7. What Party, by the greatest percentage, passed the Civil Rights Acts of the 1950’s and 1960’s?
[ ] a. Democratic Party
[X] b. Republican Party

8. What was the Party of President Richard Nixon who instituted the first Affirmative Action program in 1969 with the Philadelphia Plan that established goals and timetables?
[ ] a. Democratic Party
[X] b. Republican Party

9. What is the Party of President George W. Bush who appointed more blacks to high-level positions than any president in history and who spent record money education, job training and health care to help black Americans prosper?
[ ] a. Democratic Party
[X] b. Republican Party

BLACK POLITICAL HISTORY: THE UNTOLD STORY​

NOTE: All answers are "b."​

10. What Party fought to keep blacks in slavery and was the Party of the Ku Klux Klan?
[ ] a. Republican Party
[X] b. Democratic Party

11. What Party from 1870 to 1930 used fraud, whippings, lynching, murder, intimidation, and mutilation to get the black vote, and passed the Black Codes and Jim Crow laws which legalized racial discrimination and denied blacks their rights as citizens?
[ ] a. Republican Party
[X] b. Democratic Party

12. What was the Party of President Franklin D. Roosevelt and President Harry Truman who rejected anti-lynching laws and efforts to establish a permanent Civil Rights Commission?
[ ] a. Republican Party
[X] b. Democratic Party

13. What was the Party of President Lyndon Johnson, who called Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. “that [N-word] preacher” because he opposed the Viet Nam War; and President John F. Kennedy who voted against the 1957 Civil Rights law as a Senator, then as president opposed the 1963 March on Washington by Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. after becoming president and the FBI investigate Dr. King on suspicion of being a communist?
[ ] a. Republican Party
[X] b. Democratic Party

14. What is the Party of the late Senators Robert Byrd who was a member of the Ku Klux Klan, Ernest “Fritz” Hollings who hoisted the Confederate flag over the state capitol in South Carolina while governor, and Ted Kennedy who called black judicial nominees “Neanderthals” while blocking their appointments?
[ ] a. Republican Party
[X] b. Democratic Party

15. What was the Party of President Bill Clinton who failed to fight the terrorists after the first bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993, sent troops to war in Bosnia and Kosovo without Congressional approval, vetoed the Welfare Reform law twice before signing it, and refused to comply with a court order to have shipping companies develop an Affirmative Action Plan?
[ ] a. Republican Party
[X] b. Democratic Party

16. What is the Party of Vice President Al Gore whose father voted against the Civil Rights Acts of the 1960’s, and who lost the 2000 election as confirmed by a second recount of Florida votes by the “Miami Herald” and a consortium of major news organizations and the ruling by the U.S. Civil Rights Commission that blacks were not denied the right to vote?
[ ] a. Republican Party
[X] b. Democratic Party

17. What Party is against school vouchers, against school prayers, and takes the black vote for granted without ever acknowledging their racist past or apologizing for trying to expand slavery, lynching blacks and passing the Black Codes and Jim Crow laws that caused great harm to blacks?
[ ] a. Republican Party
[X] b. Democratic Party


http://www.nbra.info/DYK-HistoryTest

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I guess social democracy is conservative and right wing when only white men can vote. Ever since that changed, the democrat party became the liberal one. So if you love the first incarnation of the Grand Old Party, you are a liberal. Brick Top, you're a Liberal.

It's a political shark pit.

I'm expatriating.

redivider said:

once again you reduce what could be a believable argument into personal attacks and partisan bickering. i am tempted to edit that post.

the GOP rose to popularity in the anti-slave north. that much is correct, but if you argue that the views of that republican party was in line with modern-day conservatives, you are insane.

part of their platform included high pensions for union workers as a way to gain support of unions, high salaries for employees as a form of boosting aggregate demand and maximizing profits, high protective 'tariffs' or TAXES around every corner....

they were against ultra-rich gathering all the wealth while the rest were left to pick up the scraps... and enforced that view through tax policy....

conservative enough for ya??

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Stop editing people's posts, it's seriously uncool. The politics section is supposed to get heated, and I don't think anyone here holds a true dislike for anyone else...it's just politics.

Stop being such a "censorship Nazi" and just let the section roll...there'll always be heated arguments and insults... otherwise it's not politics

For example, myself and Uncle Buck kill each other on a regular basis on here, doesn't mean Iv any sort of actual dislike for the guy, we just "disagree passionately" sometimes, lol.

Kony 2012....Another contribution to freedom by the GRAND OLD PARTY!

If either party were grand, then they would respect the peoples right to representation and end the war, bring back all the good jobs we lost to foriegn countries through incentives to have these jobs back instead of the opposite, quit the smokescreen bologny issues. Health care could be something people could afford if there were good paying jobs in abundance. Bickering back and forth that does not get the job done for whatever reason continues to be counterproductive and shows true lack of responsible leadership. All on our dime- the American taxpayer who constantly has the rug pulled out from under him/her by politicians of both parties. We should send a message and fire them all and start over.Maybe the next bunch would do better if they realized they would actually face consequences for their failures, instead of the little guy always facing the consequences while phony big shots get richer and richer decieving us all the time.

The Grand Old Party is the evil of two lessers.

Excellent thread abandonconflict! Your first post, as well as UncleBuck's second, gave me a much needed laugh!

If you watch videos of JFK you would swear he was a republican.

JJFOURTWENTY said:

Excellent thread abandonconflict! Your first post, as well as UncleBuck's second, gave me a much needed laugh!

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that is also, a fantastic contribution to freedom

No Child Left Behind Act of 2001, another shining GOP contribution to freedom by Dubya, gets praise from Romney in the form of mimicry as Romney supports No Billionaire Left Behind.

Brick Top said:

You forgot to mention this stuff ... which I am sure was a totally unintentional error ...... caused by your sheer ignorance of historical facts.

HistoryTest

BLACK POLITICAL HISTORY: THE UNTOLD STORY
NOTE: All answers are "b."​

1. What Party was founded as the anti-slavery Party and fought to free blacks from slavery?
[ ] a. Democratic Party
[X] b. Republican Party

2. What was the Party of Abraham Lincoln who signed the emancipation proclamation that resulted in the Juneteenth celebrations that occur in black communities today?
[ ] a. Democratic Party
[X] b. Republican Party

3. What Party passed the Thirteenth, Fourteenth, and Fifteenth Amendments to the U. S. Constitution granting blacks freedom, citizenship, and the right to vote?
[ ] a. Democratic Party
[X] b. Republican Party

4. What Party passed the Civil Rights Acts of 1866 and 1875 granting blacks protection from the Black Codes and prohibiting racial discrimination in public accommodations, and was the Party of most blacks prior to the 1960’s, including Frederick Douglass, Harriet Tubman, Sojourner Truth, Booker T. Washington, and Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.?
[ ] a. Democratic Party
[X] b. Republican Party

5. What was the Party of the founding fathers of the NAACP?
[ ] a. Democratic Party
[X] b. Republican Party

6. What was the Party of President Dwight Eisenhower who sent U.S. troops to Arkansas to desegregate schools, established the Civil Rights Commission in 1958, and appointed Chief Justice Earl Warren to the U.S. Supreme Court which resulted in the 1954 Brown v. Board of Education decision ending school segregation?
[ ] a. Democratic Party
[X] b. Republican Party

7. What Party, by the greatest percentage, passed the Civil Rights Acts of the 1950’s and 1960’s?
[ ] a. Democratic Party
[X] b. Republican Party

8. What was the Party of President Richard Nixon who instituted the first Affirmative Action program in 1969 with the Philadelphia Plan that established goals and timetables?
[ ] a. Democratic Party
[X] b. Republican Party

9. What is the Party of President George W. Bush who appointed more blacks to high-level positions than any president in history and who spent record money education, job training and health care to help black Americans prosper?
[ ] a. Democratic Party
[X] b. Republican Party

BLACK POLITICAL HISTORY: THE UNTOLD STORY​

NOTE: All answers are "b."​

10. What Party fought to keep blacks in slavery and was the Party of the Ku Klux Klan?
[ ] a. Republican Party
[X] b. Democratic Party

11. What Party from 1870 to 1930 used fraud, whippings, lynching, murder, intimidation, and mutilation to get the black vote, and passed the Black Codes and Jim Crow laws which legalized racial discrimination and denied blacks their rights as citizens?
[ ] a. Republican Party
[X] b. Democratic Party

12. What was the Party of President Franklin D. Roosevelt and President Harry Truman who rejected anti-lynching laws and efforts to establish a permanent Civil Rights Commission?
[ ] a. Republican Party
[X] b. Democratic Party

13. What was the Party of President Lyndon Johnson, who called Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. “that [N-word] preacher” because he opposed the Viet Nam War; and President John F. Kennedy who voted against the 1957 Civil Rights law as a Senator, then as president opposed the 1963 March on Washington by Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. after becoming president and the FBI investigate Dr. King on suspicion of being a communist?
[ ] a. Republican Party
[X] b. Democratic Party

14. What is the Party of the late Senators Robert Byrd who was a member of the Ku Klux Klan, Ernest “Fritz” Hollings who hoisted the Confederate flag over the state capitol in South Carolina while governor, and Ted Kennedy who called black judicial nominees “Neanderthals” while blocking their appointments?
[ ] a. Republican Party
[X] b. Democratic Party

15. What was the Party of President Bill Clinton who failed to fight the terrorists after the first bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993, sent troops to war in Bosnia and Kosovo without Congressional approval, vetoed the Welfare Reform law twice before signing it, and refused to comply with a court order to have shipping companies develop an Affirmative Action Plan?
[ ] a. Republican Party
[X] b. Democratic Party

16. What is the Party of Vice President Al Gore whose father voted against the Civil Rights Acts of the 1960’s, and who lost the 2000 election as confirmed by a second recount of Florida votes by the “Miami Herald” and a consortium of major news organizations and the ruling by the U.S. Civil Rights Commission that blacks were not denied the right to vote?
[ ] a. Republican Party
[X] b. Democratic Party

17. What Party is against school vouchers, against school prayers, and takes the black vote for granted without ever acknowledging their racist past or apologizing for trying to expand slavery, lynching blacks and passing the Black Codes and Jim Crow laws that caused great harm to blacks?
[ ] a. Republican Party
[X] b. Democratic Party


http://www.nbra.info/DYK-HistoryTest

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This "test" needs a book worth of contextual information to go with it. Those are all true facts but for someone to just take that for face value and not understand why those things actually happened and what led to those events is borderline obscene (at least to me). Go learn a little history about the evolution of the political parties and you will discover that is only half of the story up there.

ThatGuy113 said:

This "test" needs a book worth of contextual information to go with it. Those are all true facts but for someone to just take that for face value and not understand why those things actually happened and what led to those events is borderline obscene (at least to me). Go learn a little history about the evolution of the political parties and you will discover that is only half of the story up there.

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Great post. Some people seem to forget that the republican party split in TR's time and the progressive party which later became the modern day democratic party formed.

mccumcumber said:

Great post. Some people seem to forget that the republican party split in TR's time and the progressive party which later became the modern day democratic party formed.

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and then the split of conservative southern democrats and liberal democrats. Spawning the Dixiecrats.

From Truman desegregating the armed forces to LBJ signing the Civil rights bill the Dixiecrat split still affects politics today.

funny stuff, and my list is blank also. But i do need to metion this is not enishowers GOP any more. It is wack a doodle state of business.

History lession right on target. But you got to admit the GOP since the early 90's have not been the the party of lincon or eisenhower. It is pretty wack a doodle politics right now. I agree the DEM's are no knights in shinning armor either today. In fact the choices are geting more and more limited every year, and the results even more frustrating. Some how we as people need to take the country back, and get goverment working for the people again.

ThatGuy113 said:

This "test" needs a book worth of contextual information to go with it. Those are all true facts but for someone to just take that for face value and not understand why those things actually happened and what led to those events is borderline obscene (at least to me). Go learn a little history about the evolution of the political parties and you will discover that is only half of the story up there.

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