Grafting

Al B. Fuct

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
g0nz0 said:
the idea is not to flower but to keep her in veg as a mother. Like I stated in one of my previous posts one supermother with 3 or 4 strains grafted on a nice rootstock. Cutting your need for 4 different mothers down to one. Clone each strain off of the single plant. That as well as just looking like one of Dr. Frankenstiens creations.
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OK, I see what you're up to... but why is this necessary? Why can't you just keep 3-4 different mother plants?

And what do you do if the rootstock in your grafted mum picks up bugs or pathogens? If that single rootstock dies, you lose 3-4 strains in one go.
 
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g0nz0

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well the idea is to cut down on space required for the mothers .... it all depends on your personal situation wether this is beneficial or not. If you have say a room dedicated by all means keep it as natural as possible. This is just an experimental concept for the grow space limited individual which I think consists of most of the "personal use" gardeners out there.
 
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g0nz0

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and if the rootstock does happen to catch a bug... simply clone off of all the grafted areas, begin growing all your scions. and you will soon have another identical mother with another new healthy rootstock. Like I said though this is all dependant on your personal situation.
 
Al B. Fuct

Al B. Fuct

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Sure, I can see the point if you're very limited on space i.e. cabinet op, or have some really draconian plant-count provisions in local cannabis cultivation penalties. I guess if you can do it, though- you can proudly say you can do it! :D
 
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johnb93

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i read some stuff about grafting. make sure u have the correct cuts on the plants. i think you put some anti fungicide and rooting hormone on it. not sure about the hormone. you have to dress it some way. i thought about doin that w/ a low rider and purple haze. never got around to it.
 
morp

morp

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Al B. Fuct said:
Sure, I can see the point if you're very limited on space i.e. cabinet op, or have some really draconian plant-count provisions in local cannabis cultivation penalties. I guess if you can do it, though- you can proudly say you can do it! :D
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surely it makes sense for ANY size grow space? think about it.. rather than have 4 different mother strains taking up fook loads of room, you could have four mothers with 2 strains grafted on each in theory, therefore having 8 strains in the space of four plants.... simple really xx
 
Al B. Fuct

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
morp said:
surely it makes sense for ANY size grow space?
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Sounds like an interesting hobbyist thing to do, but big grow ops are more oriented toward simple, efficient, reliable production- with as little effort and mucking about as possible.

If a production grower wants several strains (and they usually don't as height and growth rate mismatches are a headache in big ops), they'll have several individual mothers that themselves will be replaced every 8-10 weeks.
 
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g0nz0

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I do respect the largescale growers choice for a low hassle garden. But not everyone is as blessed to have hundreds of plants, dedicated rooms, with pounds of lush frosty greenery coming out of your ears every two weeks. I just simply think in general this is neat concept to tinker with.
 
ILoveUMaryJane

ILoveUMaryJane

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I find this very interesting for a number of reasons. I only grow on small scale, as I'm groeing indoors in a country where it's illegal. I've always wanted to exeriment with plants of different varieties, but of course to start a programme on a decent scale takes space, and IF I got busted, much better in the eyes of a prosecutor to be caught with one mother (albeit made from many plants by grafting) than four!
I was thinking that instead of entirely killing the plants when I harvest this grow, i'd cut them off a couple of inches above ground level and try grafting a little clone on, to take advantage of the already established root-stock.
 
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g0nz0

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Just make sure when you make the cut that it is done with a sterilized utensil and is razor sharp as to not hacksaw your way through the stem.
 
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g0nz0

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Seal it with grafting wax and wrap the nub. That is unless you plan on doing the grafting as soon as you make you cut.
 
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g0nz0

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which is most likely the best way to go....doing it all at once that is.... minimize the stress and shock by cutting time needed down to just one experience for your ladies. I know this is how I did the citrus tree I worked with grafting on.
 
videoman40

videoman40

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I would do some more research on this, you might find at the very least, you'll need to trim the roots. There is defenitely a direct connection between the plants height and the root system. I am not trying to discourage you at all, in fact I encourage what you want to do, and it makes sense from a legal standpoint, one plant vs four.
Actually what you are talking is compounding the probability of failure though, as you want to re-veg the plant, and do a few grafts too. I am in the process of re-vegging and my success rate so far stands at 50%, out of four, I have two that look like that may live through it.
I can only assume that the grafting would compound the problem. I was also informed that when you re-veg, it is wise to trim the roots. Of course I found this out after the fact. lol
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ILoveUMaryJane said:
I find this very interesting for a number of reasons. I only grow on small scale, as I'm groeing indoors in a country where it's illegal. I've always wanted to exeriment with plants of different varieties, but of course to start a programme on a decent scale takes space, and IF I got busted, much better in the eyes of a prosecutor to be caught with one mother (albeit made from many plants by grafting) than four!
I was thinking that instead of entirely killing the plants when I harvest this grow, i'd cut them off a couple of inches above ground level and try grafting a little clone on, to take advantage of the already established root-stock.
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g0nz0

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for me personally more or less i enjoy the novelty of saying yes this is my frankenbush and she boasts 4 varieties. When it dies it dies, but atleast i can then be proud to say I did it I suppose as mr al b fuct said earlier in the thread.
 
ILoveUMaryJane

ILoveUMaryJane

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I see what you're saying video, and of course defer to you superior experience. What gives me hope that it might work is actually what happened to my males when I rooted them out.
I uprooted them, scraped as much soil off the root ball as possible, put them in a bin bag and put them outside my back door to mulch down a bit. I was quite surprised when I came out nearly two weeks later and there were a couple of new shoots making a break for freedom!
This just suggested to me that they're pretty hardy, and since there's nothing to lose I thought I'd give it a go. Thanks for the advice.
 
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johnb93

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ok. I FOUND something. only plants that are hardwoods that come back each year can be grafted. marijuana, not being hardwood would not form together properly according to my sources. if i were u, i would try on a male plant and see what happens.
 
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g0nz0

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here is a link to George Cervantes' book. If grafting cannabis to hops is possible, then why would grafting amongst it's own kind be any harder. Hops or "humulus" is only a direct cousin of cannabis and still supports grafted sites, so I would imagine cannabis to cannabis rootstock to be much easier.
 
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