Grafting vegging growth to flowering root stock

Star Dog

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I've got the opportunity to try grafting with some freshly harvested root stock and the remains of 2 topped plants.
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Now I'm wondering if the flowering root stock will have any effect on the vegging growth I've grafted on?

Normally I'd have my own idea on how things might pan out but this I can't decide either way, idk if the flowering hormones are like mobile or static only working on/at the flowers, if you don't know you can give your thoughts on the outcome if you want.

If it goes well I'm going to make a tri pheno mother and who knows maybe a few plants to flower.
 

Star Dog

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Wait whaaa?? This cant work right? Hope it does tho!
I really enjoy the messing around so it's a win win situation, the win could be very interesting and quite handy for keeping mothers with limited space.
I read today in a post that "anything worthwhile would already be a thing" which I agree with so I doubt it'll have a flowering application but who knows only time will tell.
 

Star Dog

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Been another week plus and I'm curious how it's doing. Any updates?
I thought I updated this yesterday, I'm 99% sure I posted pics somewhere lol?

Anyway... Its looking a bit tired since putting it under led, maybe it's unrelated but it was looking fine all its time under t5?
The growth at the bottom of the pic is a clone I've put in the pot just ignore it.
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And another for the sake of it.
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That was 6/7 days ago I pushed it down inside the stem and its still living.
 

Star Dog

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They're not looking any worse so that's a good thing.
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Sometime between last pics and today the stems have stopped weeping?
Last time I looked I pulled of the tape for a peak it wasn't remotely connected but I'm sure the stem was starting to flare out.

The bigger one I've not touched it feels quite sturdy I can bend the top slightly and the join doesn't appear to be budging, don't hold me to it but I think it's grafting.
The little scrawny one looks just the same as last week, I've only just realised I didn't take a picture of it, if you really want a pic I'll take one but its just the same as above.
 

Jjgrow420

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Try some different grafting techniques to fix the stem inside the root stock. You cut a 'y' in the root stock then carefully shave off the outer layer on the stem of the cutting into what looks like a sharp pencil, then stick it inside the root stock and use grafting tape to fix them together with something ridged on the outside to make sure it won't move. Then mist and cover the entire branch with a bag (OBV aeration daily is key) then after a few days you can remove the bag. Another week or so and it should take. This is how we graft apples and pears. The branch won't take any traits from the mother stalk. It's just a vessel to uptake water with. The genetics lie in the cut. Good luck!
 

Jjgrow420

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Oh I forgot! Keeping the size of the stocks the same is a very important step! Cutting vs root stock should be very similar size, and not too woody on either end.... You want that nice fleshy stuff, and flowering stock is fine, it's not the stock that knows it's flowering, it's the leaves and buds that hold the mechanisms used for photosensitivity. The stocks just a big old dumb pump. (As to my understanding of the matter)
 

MAGpie81

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I ended up putting it in the bin, it wasn't looking great at the end but I wasn't maintaining it, when I pulled the tape off the graft come of freely it didn't look like it had changed any.

I've been meaning to try it again with vegging plants I'll get around to it soon and post a thread.
I like your experiment.
Not the same thing but this year I went to lightly till a box where I had a pot plant (and only a pot plant) that had grown to over six feet before harvest. I cut it down at as low of a point as possible, and this year I found a little sprout growing off of the underground root base! It was too damaged by my till (I think) to really thrive, and definitely too early in the outdoor-season, so I said a “thanks” in my head and pulled it to macerate into the soil.
 
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