GPW? Should we start focusing on GSQM instead?

canadian1969

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at what plant density in which sized pots? with 730nm at the end of each day or not? how many waterings per day in which type of substrate?

quite complicated...
What are you talking about? all I am representing is watts/time/yield/area in a simple formula. Three out of 4 of those things you are already tracking.
 

WeedSexWeightsShakes

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If you are not weighing your harvest why are you even commenting in this thread?
To ruffle your feathers
But on a real note how many of you does this even actually matter to? How much are you guys growing where you need to know your g/w/m? I’d assume you guys must have some grows that are bigger than mine. Which is only a 4x8 and 2x4 tents.
 

canadian1969

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To ruffle your feathers
But on a real note how many of you does this even actually matter to? How much are you guys growing where you need to know your g/w/m? I’d assume you guys must have some grows that are bigger than mine. Which is only a 4x8 and 2x4 tents.
Well you succeeded in confusing me lol and sounding like an idiot
 

WeedSexWeightsShakes

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You’re trolling yourself. My first initial comment wasn’t directed toward you or anyone for that matter. Saying I confused you and sound like an idiot lol. Keep counting your grams and adding up your watts. I’ll keep growing, smoking and being happy. No need to respond.
:peace:
 

canadian1969

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My first initial comment wasn’t directed toward you or anyone for that matter.
oh really, you mental midget, you want to play troll games? no problem, 'no need to respond', what are you 5 years old? I can do this all day long. Bring it.

lol you guys make harvesting sound way too complicated.
Who exactly were the "you guys" that you weren't directing your comment to ? you are the perfect example of what happens when a country defunds its public education system for 50 years. Well done, if you cannot follow logic or basic math or contribute productively to a debate, then....

 

torontoke

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What are you talking about? all I am representing is watts/time/yield/area in a simple formula. Three out of 4 of those things you are already tracking.
Would using these 4 data points still not unfairly favour the smaller low wattage growers? I think that’s the problem with any of these metrics to measure dicks. The truth is there’s no need to worry bout the size of others instead use whatever metric to make sure you aren’t slipping.
 

goofy81

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After reading the replies, some of you guys have actually thought of excellent ways to measure yields! Why didn't I think of that?

1.4gpw @ 570gr/sqm @ 15 weeks total

Because, really.. Who wouldn't be trying to squeeze as much gr/m2 as they can? Unless you have access to warehouses. In that case warehouse/commercial growers with unlimited everything can just use GPW @ x weeks

Its just like quoting quarter mile times with drag cars.

E.g.
Skyline, 11.4 @ 200mph with 600HP
Afghan kush 14 weeks, 10lbs, 4kw
 
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canadian1969

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Would using these 4 data points still not unfairly favour the smaller low wattage growers? I think that’s the problem with any of these metrics to measure dicks. The truth is there’s no need to worry bout the size of others instead use whatever metric to make sure you aren’t slipping.
What do you mean "still not unfairly favour" ? Do you have data that supports what you are implying? Are smaller low wattage grows being unfairly favoured under the g/watt measure (which is commonly being used) ? IDK.
When someone pops up on this board and says they get 2g/watt, does that tell you anything about the efficiency of their grow? No of course not, I mean other than it's probably BS, but that's what the OP is questioning and I agree, it's virtually meaningless for anyone other than that grower, but I'm beating a dead horse at this point.

The whole purpose of this is to find a fair way to compare your grow performance/efficiency to others, without a fair comparison no one learns anything. If you are only measuring your own grow how do you know if you are making mistakes and/or have room for improvement? Its not about dick measuring. I laid out the math, run your numbers and see what you get. In all fairness if you dont care then dont, its all good. Its important to me to represent how long it takes to get to harvest as part of the metric and kWh/g/m-2 does that. I think people with lights that are not adjustable in power level would be at a disadvantage under this metric. If you can achieve a certain efficiency at a small scale, it should stay consistent if you scale it up, more power required for larger area, same process same lighting tech... again IDK, no one has used this measurement yet to my knowledge.

 
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torontoke

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I meant no offence sir
Just implying that smaller growers typically come out looking much more efficient or better then they actually are.
I think we agree on the other stuff.
I use the grams per watt but only against my own goals. Since I run such a different schedule then most it would be unrealistic to compare to a warehouse or even a room.
 

canadian1969

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I meant no offence sir
Just implying that smaller growers typically come out looking much more efficient or better then they actually are.
I think we agree on the other stuff.
I use the grams per watt but only against my own goals. Since I run such a different schedule then most it would be unrealistic to compare to a warehouse or even a room.
I'm not offended, simply unaware that smaller grows come out looking more efficient. That could be true, IDK, I have no data to support that. But seriously, if you know your schedule, typical yield, your power levels and area, run your numbers, I would be interested in seeing them. Its easy to calculate kWh, just like they do on your electric bill.
 
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