GOP Tax Plans Would Be the Largest Redistributions to the Rich in American History

MuyLocoNC

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healthcare is most certainly a right..just like food shelter water..they are all profitable services as well.
You're delusional, simply saying something is a right because you want it, doesn't make it a right. Food, shelter and water aren't rights either, not in any way, shape or form. Ask any starving homeless person if they have a right to food and shelter.
 

Rob Roy

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You're delusional, simply saying something is a right because you want it, doesn't make it a right. Food, shelter and water aren't rights either, not in any way, shape or form. Ask any starving homeless persons if they have a right to food and shelter.

Exactly.

Everybody has a right to acquire certain things....NOBODY has a right to make others deliver them though.
 

Rob Roy

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healthcare is most certainly a right..just like food shelter water..they are all profitable services as well.

Are you saying access to health care is a right?

Or are you saying that having ANOTHER PERSON(s) provide it for you, is a right?

Big difference.
 

Moldy

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The tax cuts for the rich proposed by the two leading Republican candidates for the presidency — Donald Trump and Ted Cruz — are larger, as a proportion of the government budget and the total economy, than any tax cuts ever before proposed in history.

Trump and Cruz pretend to be opposed to the Republican establishment, but when it comes to taxes they’re seeking exactly what that Republican establishment wants.

Here are 5 things you need to know about their tax plans:


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-reich/republican-tax-plans_b_9525398.html
What else is new? These fuckers have been stacking the deck since ronnie raygun. I wouldn't mind the differential in wealth if we all had the same fair tax percentage to pay. Good for the guy that makes millions but when you only make thousands then you can't use the tax shelters or write offs. I don't even have enough interest on my house to deduct, I have to take the straight deductions. Fuck you repugnant Kock suckers.
 

schuylaar

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You're delusional, simply saying something is a right because you want it, doesn't make it a right. Food, shelter and water aren't rights either, not in any way, shape or form. Ask any starving homeless person if they have a right to food and shelter.
homeless receive shelter and food in Florida from Governor Racist Scott.
 

Moldy

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Are you saying access to health care is a right?

Or are you saying that having ANOTHER PERSON(s) provide it for you, is a right?

Big difference.
Since the USA is rated somewhere around 34th in the world in healthcare I'd say we're all being WAY overcharged. Healthcare yeah, you pay but not for a fucking inflated false economy healthcare system where the insurance companies make out like fat cats too. We're all being ripped off. .... and Obama care didn't do shit to change that.
 

bearkat42

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What else is new? These fuckers have been stacking the deck since ronnie raygun. I wouldn't mind the differential in wealth if we all had the same fair tax percentage to pay. Good for the guy that makes millions but when you only make thousands then you can't use the tax shelters or write offs. I don't even have enough interest on my house to deduct, I have to take the straight deductions. Fuck you repugnant Kock suckers.
Rich people make the rules. The brilliance is in the fact that they get broke morons to argue for them.
 

MuyLocoNC

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Since the USA is rated somewhere around 34th in the world in healthcare I'd say we're all being WAY overcharged. Healthcare yeah, you pay but not for a fucking inflated false economy healthcare system where the insurance companies make out like fat cats too. We're all being ripped off. .... and Obama care didn't do shit to change that.
Well, you have the option of not taking advantage of their services. They didn't cause the problem you're seeking their services to remedy, they have no responsibility for your recovery past your payment for such. Dying and/or living in pain is always an option...and it's cheap.
 

Rob Roy

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Since the USA is rated somewhere around 34th in the world in healthcare I'd say we're all being WAY overcharged. Healthcare yeah, you pay but not for a fucking inflated false economy healthcare system where the insurance companies make out like fat cats too. We're all being ripped off. .... and Obama care didn't do shit to change that.

The more regulated something is, often due to that regulation / protectionism / cronyism the fewer service providers will exist in a given area.

Government intervention in the first place is usually what causes problems, don't look for the cure to come from the disease itself.
 

Rob Roy

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Bloated defense budget?

The term "defense budget" is a lie.

It is an intentional tool for the transfer of wealth and perpetuation of the USA's world domination via force.

Of course even while recognizing what I said above, many turn a blind eye to the games played domestically under the guise of "charity". Often people decry one kind of theft while not recognizing they ADVOCATE another...
 

OddBall1st

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I know. Keep building those ships though. ISIS is shaking in their collective boots.

They serve more than going after ISIS. Foot soldiers are commonly addressed by Marines then Army. If ISIS want to rule the seas,...The real damage,....they better learn their tides.
 

schuylaar

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What else is new? These fuckers have been stacking the deck since ronnie raygun. I wouldn't mind the differential in wealth if we all had the same fair tax percentage to pay. Good for the guy that makes millions but when you only make thousands then you can't use the tax shelters or write offs. I don't even have enough interest on my house to deduct, I have to take the straight deductions. Fuck you repugnant Kock suckers.
welcome to AMT(alternative minimum tax)..it sucks and the only ones who win at the game are those who stack the deck against us..talk about getting the woody..all the while profitable corps pay NO taxes.
 

NLXSK1

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If you keep putting a smaller and smaller portion of your paycheck into your savings account, but you don't cut back your spending to reflect the fact that you have less actual money in savings, then what happens eventually?

Simple economics.
Why wouldnt you cut back spending? Simple economics...
 

NLXSK1

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that would be lowering taxes for every WEALTHY person..regular people still get to pay taxes.
he wants no taxes on any individual making less than 25,000 dollars a year and 50,000 on married couples. Which regular people are you referring to?
 

schuylaar

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he wants no taxes on any individual making less than 25,000 dollars a year and 50,000 on married couples. Which regular people are you referring to?
regular taxpayers are those >$250k..do you know how many taxpayers make >$25k? i've read his plan (what little there is) and it's a shell game..those >$25k account for a ton of tax dollars..how is he going to replace it?
 
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