GOP and the Tea Party

deprave

deprave

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Yes, unfortunately it has...they are diverting away libertarians quite successfully with mr glenn beck republican that calls himself a libertarian..Sarah Palin and others...its a shame...but the libertarians will rise up above them its only a matter of time.
 
Heads Up

Heads Up

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Personally I don't see libertarians being a large enough group of voters to help out the republicans in any meaningful way.
 
deprave

deprave

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Heads Up said:
Personally I don't see libertarians being a large enough group of voters to help out the republicans in any meaningful way.
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Just about every republican voter is a actually a libertarian , they just don't realize it...same thing with democrats..:)

Old people need to just die off then it will be all libertarian and progressives...I know people have been saying that for 50 years...
 
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redivider

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deprave said:
Just about every republican voter is a actually a libertarian , they just don't realize it...same thing with democrats..:)

Old people need to just die off then it will be all libertarian and progressives...I know people have been saying that for 50 years...
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another stack of ron paul delusion-ism... every republican voter is a libertarian, they just don't realize it? really? hahaha
 
deprave

deprave

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redivider said:
another stack of ron paul delusion-ism... every republican voter is a libertarian, they just don't realize it? really? hahaha
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pretty much lol...everyone is a libertarian except statist....Do you advocate the state over people? No? Then you are part libertarian :)
 
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NoDrama

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deprave said:
pretty much lol...everyone is a libertarian except statist....Do you advocate the state over people? No? Then you are part libertarian :)
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The answer is clear when you find out he works for the US Department of Overlords (USDO).
 
jdillinger

jdillinger

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Heres a little known quote by ronald reagan.

"Every person under 30 is a libertarian, everyone above is a conservative" -Ronald Reagan

The tea party is mostly republican oriented, it has been good in the sense they are trying to institute constitutional ethics. But tea partiers are still mostly conservatives, thus aren't likely to vote for a liberty candidate. I've never understood that, I mean America was founded on justice, equality and liberty. The slaves shouldn't of just been freed, they should have been paid for their services rendered, I'm not advocating slavery, I'm just saying the slaves should of been paid for their services, upon release. Owners were wealthy, but were too bigoted to pay.

Whatever, still a tea partier will look on ron paul favorably, for his constitutional preferences. But they're still affiliated conservatives or neo-cons. Thus some aren't true tea-partiers, more looking for a moderate push back to the constitution, whilst still keeping their benefits. Thats why the tea party, which people thought would be ron pauls biggest supporter base, isn't supersizing his base. Granted RP takes a big chunk, some tea partiers disagree with him. Tea Party members are predominantly conservative evangelicals, who believe america is a "christian nation" and buck against his same sex marriage stance. Furthermore 60% believe peace is achieved through military force. Three Quarters want military spending to stay the same or increase.

Thus some people aren't true tea partiers, or some just interpret differently to ron paul what a tea partier means. :/
 
jdillinger

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redivider said:
another stack of ron paul delusion-ism... every republican voter is a libertarian, they just don't realize it? really? hahaha
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Everybodys part libertarian, part socialist, part conservative. I wouldn't go so far as say every republican is a libertarian, when we look back, it wasn't just republicans who stray away from the constitution. Everybody wants freedom, everybody wants to share nad help the poor, everybody wants things to stay the same.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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lifegoesonbrah said:
Someone who doesn't want to recklessly blow peoples money through government spending, whether it be foreign or domestic.
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actually, the true tea partiers are against monopolies and taxation without representation.

this new wave of astroturf, koch brother funded, fake tea partiers are just a bunch of puppets with no principles besides what they're told to have.
 
Mr Neutron

Mr Neutron

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lifegoesonbrah said:
Someone who doesn't want to recklessly blow peoples money through government spending, whether it be foreign or domestic.
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UncleBuck said:
actually, the true tea partiers are against monopolies and taxation without representation.

this new wave of astroturf, koch brother funded, fake tea partiers are just a bunch of puppets with no principles besides what they're told to have.
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... and this based on... ???? Are these values shared by ALL factions that call themselves Tea Party​?
 
UncleBuck

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Mr Neutron said:
... and this based on... ???? Are these values shared by ALL factions that call themselves Tea Party​?
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you asked for the true tea partiers, i described them to you. they dumped the tea for reasons that included (primarily) taxation without representation and a monopoly on tea.

i'm no historian, this is my AP history knowledge, i could be wrong or slightly off.
 
sync0s

sync0s

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jdillinger said:


Im more of a moderate leaning libertarian I suppose. I'm sorry but I'm pro-life, I can't stand to see the death of a child. I'm all for womens rights, but I honestly believe abortion is murder. Sorry :(
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I was damn near in the bottom left corner.. only a notch to the right because of my answer on government prayer in school..
 
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