Good drugs bad drugs!

Mostly in response to the fucked up heroin thread going on, but why not a good conversation on the good and the bad ones. Good ones you can use safely, heavily indulge and know that your not going to end up dead. Bad ones frequently become highly addictive have a chance of overdose. I'm tired of seeing good but uninformed people go down a bad road. I'm not trying to judge people but usually some drugs have mostly negative effects (not talking about the buzz) and some can be used with virtually no negative effects. I'm especially interested in alot of the RC type substances as when I was young and tripping all the time they were not around and now when I try to hook up I have to really know the people just to get what I want.

I'll start by saying that Marijana, LSD, Mushrooms, mescaline, salvia, can all be used with very little physical danger, assuming you behave safely.
Heroin, coke, meth, most prescription pills frequently get very addictive and if used incorrectly can easily kill you.
I'm sure that alot of things are in the grey area in between and l'd love to discuss them also. THANK ALL OF YOU

More deaths occur annually due to alcohol...yet it isn't on your list.

My bad, kinda fits in that gray area where yes it has definite risks but many safely overindulge. Still yucky stuff even though I drink a 6 pack of bells every week or so.

Alcohol! Then meth or smack. Nasty stuff but it has its place

I would put meth above alcohol just because what is used to make it... An how easily it can take over your life in Everyway

Sir this thread is pointless you are in the HS section which covers ANYTHING BUT MJ

if you dont like people talking about heroin

dont look at it

but they came to the right place in the forums to talk about it

I don't necessarily think any drugs are BAD. They become bad when the user makes them so. Is a drug BAD and or EVIL if it lays untouched? I don't think so, it depends on how and why it's used.

Also, in the description of this section is says open for discussion of any substance other than marijuana. Heroin falls into that category of not being marijuana. Correct me if I'm wrong.

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I would put meth above alcohol just because what is used to make it... An how easily it can take over your life in Everyway

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Forgot about that one. I have a friend in northern Arkansas.. says there is an entire sub-culture in the Ozarks based upon meth production. The poor man's cocaine.

The poor man's cocaine.

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I always thought that was crack?

If were bashing smack why has no one brought uo oxys lol thats a big hit for the od

right? oxys are trash fuck all thebaine derivatives ARE SHIT

O.K. maybe I named the thread wrong. What I meant was to start an information conversation about the relative safety of different substances. Everyone knows that some are simply way safer than others. I personally enjoy psychedelics and alot of what is offered to me anymore is not the same ole stuff I was used to. I'm not bashing heroin I just think it is a really serious subject. I would love to see a little info on the specific dangers of any drug. When I was young I would have tried anything and now that I'm a parent I'm glad I never had the heroin or coke hookups at that age. By the time I came across alot of things I all ready was aware of the dangers/benifits. Now the lists of possible drugs is amazing. We used to eat alot of LSD, literally 500-100 mic doses over and over again, drink mushroom tea all day long, and it was nice to know that if you were in the right enviroment you were not going to die. I may love 2c ? and who knows what else but don't know much about any of them and there are alot... I didn't mean to offend by calling them good or bad but I know as a parent and partaker the more good information on all of them the better for everyone. I wish everyone safe using whatever and thats all.

so my h thread is fucked up but you drink a 6 pack every week thats more harmful than my opiate intake...just sayin man

Enough please! everyone just get along. This section is not made to bash

let talk about dmt teks or mescal teks. something useful

4sure sorry its just i cant believe all the negative responses i got from a community of people i thought could handle thread like that but the poster is basically saying pot and psycadelics are the only "good" drugs i dont believe any drug is good or bad i personall believe pot is the only safe drug there is, dont get me wrong at one point in my life i loved psycadelics and still grow sum mushies every now and then but they have definatly harmed people for people to think they cannot be harmful is just plain ignorant psycadelics can really fuck up your head if used the wrong way just like any other drug but im all for hearing about some teks, im sory for my lashing out time is money you seem to be a beacon of light on these not so nice threads hah our names go very well together time is money and its all in the wrist lol

life for me is a trip enough just remember guys whe using psycadelics have a plan and try to have somwhere there to be with you or someone to check up on you, you dont wana wake up convulsing with throwup all over you after your friend recesitates you and keeps you from suffocating probably one of my scaryiest bad trips ever but have had a few bad ones it was the product of to much liqour a bag of mushrooms and way to much dmt

I dont know where to draw the line anymore... And a six pack a week has less side effects then H. a beer a day is good for the heart, but now that i think about it if you did drink a beer everyday it would have some negitive effect on the body. Im not sure im not a doctor nor do i study the human body.
I guess it does make sense for that ither thread to be here, opinions get thrown around when certain topics arise an we must all learn to keep are cool or everything becomes chaos.

Here is a radical idea; How about we treat each substance individually so we can get a proper understanding of how it interacts with the human body. What is with people wanting to put "drugs" into overly-broad and poorly defined categories?

All drugs are safe on one level.....


it just depends on how much you want to get fucked up... and for how long.... that the type of drug you take begins to effect your health..

Penguin know what I meant! I would like to know dosing info and specific dangers of just about anything. You just can't take some drugs to extremes as safely as others. Yea psychedelics can have negative effects also but the ones I grew up with usually even if you freaked the fuck out you still were ok the next day. I don't care if someone does all the Heroin in the world, if it works for them thats great but how many people is it good for? Most of the users I've met are in a bad place.
So what about all the MD?, 2C?, DO? and so on. I know theres alot of them. What happens if you take one, or its alot of fun and you take 10? you can do that with LSD. I know I like molly, when I can find it, but I also know it can be dangerous if I do to much and not to use it to often. Some of my friend have been doing alot a K, I see mixed opinions on its safety. I think I did DOC once (14 hour fractal like visuals) all I know is it was not what I paid for (LSD). How many of those could I have taken before things got dangerous? At festivals in the summer its amazing the amount of thing I never tried.